Sid Meier's Civilization 5 UPick Mafia (GAME OVER)

Kiana Kaslana · Post Post #2375 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:21 am

In post 2373, brassherald wrote:
In post 2372, Kiana Kaslana wrote:
In post 2371, brassherald wrote:
In post 2370, Kiana Kaslana wrote:
In post 2368, brassherald wrote:I think Gamma might be scum, I don't know about watcher for sure.

Elbirn was a weak on night 1, so he either visits someone he crumbs to prove they are town or not, or he targets me to BG the conf town for the rest of the game. So, unless he was a targeted mafia shot, either he targeted Gamma and Gamma's scum, or he targeted me and Gamma's lying, even if he was a night shot. Gamma might be the best link here
There is no need to target you to BG you because the peacekeeping resolution that day publically gave you protection. This was announced, and it is not likely that Elbirn had missed. So, you can throw that conclusion out of the window.
His protection didn't start until N2 and was permanent throughout the game.
Oh, oops. I read his role flip wrong. XD

If his protection didn't start until N2, then that means that he cannot have died while protecting someone.
He could have died to a shot directed at him or, since N1 was weak, he would have died if he chose a scum target.

It's more likely that he chose a scum target. 3 Kills have to be accounted for. Unless there are 3 scum factions, or a vigilante to worked tonight (unlikely), there cannot account for 3 kills.

BuJaber · Post Post #2376 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:45 am

In post 1809, Elbirn wrote:You know we hammered without even seeing the resolutions pass and what they would have done this day phase. So that's cool. Gg ez..

Anyway if creature flips scum and I'm not alive tomorrow to bring it up, this is a reminder to all of you that Gamma was real shifty about the creature wagon earlier and you should put the squeeze on him. Actually in general if I'm dead tomorrow I hope you all heed my wisdoms I've said lots of good stuff and I'd hate to be a non participant after death.

Speaking of which Joey is town leave him alone white haired anime lady

Is this the post where Elbirn softs that he'll target Gamma?

It's the only one I found that even remotely suggests it.

BuJaber · Post Post #2377 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:48 am

Whatever let's go. I'm pretty sure one of Nero/gamma is scum anyway. Their fight is annoying and distracting.

I blame Elbirn and kiana if gamma flips town. I will go for a nero lynch too.

VOTE: gamma

BuJaber · Post Post #2378 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:49 am

(I will go for a nero lynch if gamma flips town )

How to piss off people and escape the NK 101. Lynch me haters.

Klazam · Post Post #2379 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:58 am

Why would a scum watcher bother watching brassherald? They KNOW that no protectives was going to hit brass that night.

Scum investigative? Brass's role was already outed

Roleblocker? We have a dead one already, and roleblocking a confirmed IC seems dumb

Religion spreader? Brass confirmed theres no religion.

Strongman? Brass's still alive

What else is there?

Guys, what teh fuck. Gamma is town here. There exists no scum role that makes sense with being used on the protected IC.

FOS on BuJaber for the previous 2 posts tho. Dont like the tone.

Klazam · Post Post #2380 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:59 am

We have a confirmed tracker that tracked Gamma to Brass, that in itself HAS to confirm Gamma's towniness, because no scum role exists that wants to target Brass there.

Maestro · Post Post #2381 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:41 am

World Congress

Voting for a Congress Host
(Day 2 - Update 3.1)

On Day 2, all players receive 2 delegates for assignment in the World Congress.
The Host receives an additional 2 delegates, for a total of 4 delegates.

Spoiler: Delegates Cast (19)

Spoiler: Delegates Not Cast in Host Election (17)

NOTES

:

[*]
brassherald
remains Host unless/until a new one is elected
[*]
Titus
was the runner up on Day 1

BuJaber · Post Post #2382 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:34 am

In post 2379, Klazam wrote:Why would a scum watcher bother watching brassherald? They KNOW that no protectives was going to hit brass that night.

Scum investigative? Brass's role was already outed

Roleblocker? We have a dead one already, and roleblocking a confirmed IC seems dumb

Religion spreader? Brass confirmed theres no religion.

Strongman? Brass's still alive

What else is there?

Guys, what teh fuck. Gamma is town here. There exists no scum role that makes sense with being used on the protected IC.

FOS on BuJaber for the previous 2 posts tho. Dont like the tone.

Tone of someone who has accepted that their opinions qill drown in the sea of witchhunters that exist in this game. They want to kill gamma let them kill gamma. Then let them scramble about to prove their innocence afterwards. Sometimes the fight is won through death.

There is a bloc of people who have regardless of alignment decided to stick together no matter what. Fuck em let the townies among them learn from their mistakes.

I like how you're with me though. I honestly thought nobody was gonna reject the gamma lynch except me.

BuJaber · Post Post #2383 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:39 am

Klazam look at the cases on you. On me. On gamma. On titus.

There's witch hunting going on and I don't know which of them are scum and which are town. All I know is that as much as I want to lynch nero for the reasons I have mentioned he comes round everytime and sounds so damn townie. Chara also I gut reas as town. And so I'm gonna change my approach and sheep them and see what happens for one or two day phases.

BuJaber · Post Post #2384 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:43 am

Chara is actually voting shaz.. hmm thought ut was gamma. She actually agrees on gamma not getting lynched today.

Maybe I gave up too early. Though seriously with that post elbirn posted people aren't gonna stop asking if he died because he targeted gamma or not. So I dunno I want to move on from that.

Kiana Kaslana · Post Post #2385 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:03 am

In post 2383, BuJaber wrote:Klazam look at the cases on you. On me. On gamma. On titus.

There's witch hunting going on and I don't know which of them are scum and which are town. All I know is that as much as I want to lynch nero for the reasons I have mentioned he comes round everytime and sounds so damn townie. Chara also I gut reas as town. And so I'm gonna change my approach and sheep them and see what happens for one or two day phases.

Witch hunting is pretty fun!

Most of them should be town, since 3 scum instantly died already.

Kiana Kaslana · Post Post #2386 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:04 am

In post 2377, BuJaber wrote:I blame Elbirn and kiana if gamma flips town. I will go for a nero lynch too.

Blame blame blame... the first thing that comes to your mind is blame... just like the bosses at work... only know how to blame if things go wrong, but if things go right, they keep quiet.

brassherald · Post Post #2387 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:05 am

Not to bring this back to a discussion people have already dismissed, but why exactly, are we dismissing the idea of a Cultural Purple Mafia?

I'm still trying to figure this one out.

Kiana Kaslana · Post Post #2388 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:06 am

In post 2387, brassherald wrote:Not to bring this back to a discussion people have already dismissed, but why exactly, are we dismissing the idea of a Cultural Purple Mafia?

I'm still trying to figure this one out.

It's possible, but 3 scumteams sound too overkill, I've never seen that before in any game, and I doubt it will get approved.

Joey_ · Post Post #2389 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:06 am

In post 2379, Klazam wrote:Why would a scum watcher bother watching brassherald? They KNOW that no protectives was going to hit brass that night.

Scum investigative? Brass's role was already outed

Roleblocker? We have a dead one already, and roleblocking a confirmed IC seems dumb

Religion spreader? Brass confirmed theres no religion.

Strongman? Brass's still alive

What else is there?

Guys, what teh fuck. Gamma is town here. There exists no scum role that makes sense with being used on the protected IC.

FOS on BuJaber for the previous 2 posts tho. Dont like the tone.

Orange said that they would take care of brass didn't they? Just a though that could explain a scum watcher on brass from a red

brassherald · Post Post #2390 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:07 am

In post 2389, Joey_ wrote:
In post 2379, Klazam wrote:Why would a scum watcher bother watching brassherald? They KNOW that no protectives was going to hit brass that night.

Scum investigative? Brass's role was already outed

Roleblocker? We have a dead one already, and roleblocking a confirmed IC seems dumb

Religion spreader? Brass confirmed theres no religion.

Strongman? Brass's still alive

What else is there?

Guys, what teh fuck. Gamma is town here. There exists no scum role that makes sense with being used on the protected IC.

FOS on BuJaber for the previous 2 posts tho. Dont like the tone.
Orange said that they would take care of brass didn't they? Just a though that could explain a scum watcher on brass from a red

Where?

Joey_ · Post Post #2391 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:09 am

MOD : Does a watcher ability counts as a visit (that could be tracked) or does a watcher role does not visit and only "target" a player ?

Joey_ · Post Post #2392 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:09 am

In post 2390, brassherald wrote:
In post 2389, Joey_ wrote:
In post 2379, Klazam wrote:Why would a scum watcher bother watching brassherald? They KNOW that no protectives was going to hit brass that night.

Scum investigative? Brass's role was already outed

Roleblocker? We have a dead one already, and roleblocking a confirmed IC seems dumb

Religion spreader? Brass confirmed theres no religion.

Strongman? Brass's still alive

What else is there?

Guys, what teh fuck. Gamma is town here. There exists no scum role that makes sense with being used on the protected IC.

FOS on BuJaber for the previous 2 posts tho. Dont like the tone.
Orange said that they would take care of brass didn't they? Just a though that could explain a scum watcher on brass from a red
Where?

Well basically Varsoon claimed outright to the "red team" that they would take care of you, just iso the guy it's really easy to find

brassherald · Post Post #2393 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:16 am

I saw it. I forgot about that.

BuJaber · Post Post #2394 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:24 am

In post 2386, Kiana Kaslana wrote:
In post 2377, BuJaber wrote:I blame Elbirn and kiana if gamma flips town. I will go for a nero lynch too.
Blame blame blame... the first thing that comes to your mind is blame... just like the bosses at work... only know how to blame if things go wrong, but if things go right, they keep quiet.

*shrugs* we're human. We remember blame more than pats on the back. I'm threatening you with the scary BLAMES. Being right is also its own reward.

Titus · Post Post #2395 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:05 am

Second, religion spreaders might visit Brass.

Who said Purple mafia is not a possibility?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2396 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:09 am

In post 2303, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2292, Gamma Emerald wrote:reads, a bit more simplified now

Town: brassherald, Ranmaru, pidgey, Jodaxq, Joey_, Chara
Townlean: Kokichi Oma, Titus
Null: ActionDan
Scumlean: marshy, BuJaber, Kiana Kaslana
Scum: Nero Cain, Klazam, Shaziro

This might be too much scum but it's how I'm feeling, it's not a full gamesolve attempt.
1- Why is pidgy Town?
2- Why is Nero Scum?
3- Why am I missing?

1) Pidgey has felt genuine throughout the game
2) Nero has been constantly pushing the same line of bullshit about "I was sheeping BuJaber" when I wasn't, and he recently flat out lied about me wanting to lynch Kokichi.
3) I'm a dumb-dumb. You're a townread.

Titus · Post Post #2397 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:13 am

In post 2388, Kiana Kaslana wrote:
In post 2387, brassherald wrote:Not to bring this back to a discussion people have already dismissed, but why exactly, are we dismissing the idea of a Cultural Purple Mafia?

I'm still trying to figure this one out.
It's possible, but 3 scumteams sound too overkill, I've never seen that before in any game, and I doubt it will get approved.

There was once a game where almost everyone was scum. NKs by lottery. It was fun but not really mafia at that point.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2398 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:17 am

In post 2328, Nero Cain wrote:gamma's questions to the mod are fucking weak. He looks like scum that's trying to look busy and he's still scummy A F for his sheeping Bujabers silly d1 logic. Even if it was a hypothetical. (whatever that fucking means.) It means he was pouring gasoline on a potential koki lynch.

and we are 94 pages in and you have no scumreads?

Keep fucking lying out of your ass you scumfuck. I was townreading Kokichi, how the fuck do you get "pouring gasoline for his mislynch" from that? And

how the fuck

do you not know what hypothetical means you grand ignoramus? It means an imaginary scenario made to consider options without actually checking them in practice. And again, keep fucking lying about sheeping, it sure will get you plenty of townpoints.

If I get lynched today this is your number one lynch/vig priority. I'm that confident in my read here.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2399 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:19 am

In post 2334, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2330, Chara wrote:B) good point.
What if he's not a watcher though and wouldn't know?

Why does Gamma watch Brass when he knew Brass would be protected?

Are you fucking dense? If there was a strongman kill I wanted to see it. I believe that was my second reason I gave.