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Post Post #800 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:06 am

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In post 799, Maid Cafe wrote:Hmm our mana ability doesn't work the way I thought it did.

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Post Post #801 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:07 am

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@Cerb, Mechanical Question?
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Post Post #802 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:08 am

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In post 772, Reasonably Rational wrote:Here's another, similar question, that relates the previous one to this game:

What is the most important thing about *this* game to know more about, excluding anything related to specific players.

Is it knowing how mana can be generated?
Is it knowing what different cards can do?
Is it knowing what factionals scum have?
Is it knowing what abilities players might have?


Etc. Purely mechnical knowledge, untied to specific players.

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pedit: Naw micc, I'm not in any hurry to wagon anyone, I'm getting plenty of data with the way things are right now, I just found it interesting that you didn't move your vote elsewhere.
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Post Post #803 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:10 am

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VOTE: Skybird
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
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Post Post #804 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:17 am

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So I need 2 wagons that consist of 2 people cross voting.
Then I need 1 of those wagons to be bigger then the other.

P1 - P2, P3
P2 - P1
Would be valid but P1-P3 cannot be me.

Then I need everyone voting P1 to unvote.

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Post Post #805 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:17 am

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Ty in advance.

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Post Post #806 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:20 am

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wow. does Varsoon hate you?
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Post Post #807 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:22 am

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In post 804, Maid Cafe wrote:Then I need everyone voting P1 to unvote.
Oh I need to bold text in thread before this happens.
This is an option step that lets us regain access to our vote.

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Post Post #808 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:22 am

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In post 804, Maid Cafe wrote:So I need 2 wagons that consist of 2 people cross voting.
Then I need 1 of those wagons to be bigger then the other.

P1 - P2, P3
P2 - P1
Would be valid but P1-P3 cannot be me.

Then I need everyone voting P1 to unvote.

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And you can also gain extra abilities when people give you stuff.

Hmm. I have no idea what color identity that could possibly give you, lol. :P

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Post Post #809 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:24 am

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In post 808, Reasonably Rational wrote:And you can also gain extra abilities when people give you stuff.
This is probably why gaining mana is so annoying lol.

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Post Post #810 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:24 am

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In post 806, Chara wrote:wow. does Varsoon hate you?
Looking at my PM you could ask the same thing.

Riiip.

Oh and Almost50 once he confirms his vote is stolen as I believe him is very likely town. Can’t explain why. I want an explanation for something Skybird said and they know what I mean.

Pedit: Sarcasm doesn’t suit you Cerb.
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Post Post #811 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:27 am

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In post 810, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 806, Chara wrote:wow. does Varsoon hate you?
Looking at my PM you could ask the same thing.

Riiip.

Oh and Almost50 once he confirms his vote is stolen as I believe him is very likely town. Can’t explain why. I want an explanation for something Skybird said and they know what I mean.

Pedit: Sarcasm doesn’t suit you Cerb.
I wasn't being sarcastic! I literally have no fucking idea what that could be. :-/

Like, i can make a good guess about Taly's color identity...but I know more about MC and it's confusing and doens't make sense to me. :P

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Post Post #812 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:28 am

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@Chara: Can you please be very explicit in your next post about how your miller ability functions.

Thanks!

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Post Post #813 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:31 am

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i feel like i've answered this already. <3

alignment investigations return The End. i would call it universal as gunsmiths also see me as having a killing ability, but Varsoon wasn't explicit about that and said yes to a hypothetical gunsmith with that power. i don't know how it would interact with spells and such. but i am assured they all treat me as though my alignment was The End.
does that help?
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Post Post #814 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:33 am

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In post 813, Chara wrote:i feel like i've answered this already. <3

alignment investigations return The End. i would call it universal as gunsmiths also see me as having a killing ability, but Varsoon wasn't explicit about that and said yes to a hypothetical gunsmith with that power. i don't know how it would interact with spells and such. but i am assured they all treat me as though my alignment was The End.
does that help?
But you're not explicitly called a miller, yes? Because that's not how Varsoon does things. He told you that everything treats you as though your alignment was the end. Does that include stuff like trackers returning you as visiting the scum kill etc?

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Post Post #815 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:34 am

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In post 810, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 806, Chara wrote:wow. does Varsoon hate you?
Looking at my PM you could ask the same thing.

Riiip.

Oh and Almost50 once he confirms his vote is stolen as I believe him is very likely town. Can’t explain why. I want an explanation for something Skybird said and they know what I mean.

Pedit: Sarcasm doesn’t suit you Cerb.
This is a really off-color remark for you. I know you dislike people outing role info randomly so why are you doing it?
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Post Post #816 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:35 am

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RR, Shall we have our obligatory fight? Mark ruined the pressure on Iconeum.

@Mark, Your rapid votes pressure none of your targets atm. :/
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Post Post #817 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:37 am

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In post 815, Tibor and Lumia wrote:
In post 810, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 806, Chara wrote:wow. does Varsoon hate you?
Looking at my PM you could ask the same thing.

Riiip.

Oh and Almost50 once he confirms his vote is stolen as I believe him is very likely town. Can’t explain why. I want an explanation for something Skybird said and they know what I mean.

Pedit: Sarcasm doesn’t suit you Cerb.
This is a really off-color remark for you. I know you dislike people outing role info randomly so why are you doing it?
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Post Post #818 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:37 am

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In post 816, Bronya Zaychik wrote:RR, Shall we have our obligatory fight? Mark ruined the pressure on Iconeum.

@Mark, Your rapid votes pressure none of your targets atm. :/
Why would we have a fight? Also, Drixx is the one who fights with you, not me. :)

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Post Post #819 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:38 am

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In post 816, Bronya Zaychik wrote:RR, Shall we have our obligatory fight? Mark ruined the pressure on Iconeum.

@Mark, Your rapid votes pressure none of your targets atm. :/
I am not looking to bring pressure.

I am looking to be memorable.
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Post Post #820 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:38 am

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If pressure happens so be it. That would be great.
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Post Post #821 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:39 am

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I also can't generate mana through private means which is kinda interesting lol.

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Post Post #822 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:40 am

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@Chara: I just want to make sure it's firmly on the record exactly what abilities etc should return a negative result on you, so in case you are actually scum fake claiming miller because you know in Varsoon games there can be multiple millers and therefore the fake claim isn't particularly risky, people know *what*, if any, results they can trust on you.

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pedit:@MC: You probably have the coolest spells. :(
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Post Post #823 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:44 am

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In post 802, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 772, Reasonably Rational wrote:Here's another, similar question, that relates the previous one to this game:

What is the most important thing about *this* game to know more about, excluding anything related to specific players.

Is it knowing how mana can be generated?
Is it knowing what different cards can do?
Is it knowing what factionals scum have?
Is it knowing what abilities players might have?


Etc. Purely mechnical knowledge, untied to specific players.

-Cerb

pedit: Naw micc, I'm not in any hurry to wagon anyone, I'm getting plenty of data with the way things are right now, I just found it interesting that you didn't move your vote elsewhere.
It's very useful for both alignments to predict behavior. Which is more useful varies from card to card and player to player. Knowledge explains behavior. Therefore, if a player has a role that impacts other players behavior
and they are aware of it
transparency is best. This applies in mana stealers, millers, and other anti-town things.

Knowing what scum can do creates a box of therefore what they likely cannot do. This allows for coordination without outing our roles.

Mana generation is very low tier for knowledge until late game, assuming not player specific here. Both alignments (unless a planet picker exists) would view it as random chance.

Cards and abilities is your standard rolefish and I can't see how it applies generally but only to certain slots.

So out of the four, I'd pick scum ability knowledge
knowing what I know now anyway.


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Post Post #824 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:46 am

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I think Taly should copy Chara to see if the miller thing is fake.
Not really show how useful that is though since Chara could just be a scum miller :|

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