VARSOON VARIETY HOUR : GAME SCRAPPED

Maid Cafe · Post Post #900 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:10 am

I mean your claim wasn't possible.
I kinda just wanted to see what happened if I attempted to force a rolecop on you.

~B

Maid Cafe · Post Post #901 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:11 am

Then I got mad because I feel like Mark is going against me for the sake of it.

~B

Chara · Post Post #902 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:11 am

i'm so sad Almost wasn't caught up before this happened.

on the bright side, he catches up and posts as he goes, so we'll have his real-time reactions anyway!

pedit: roles not indicating alignment doesn't mean a miller not possible, for what it's worth. it just means the role would be redundant is scum hands.

Chara · Post Post #903 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:12 am

In post 900, Maid Cafe wrote:I mean your claim wasn't possible.
I kinda just wanted to see what happened if I attempted to force a rolecop on you.

~B

and what did you get out of that?

Reasonably Rational · Post Post #904 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:12 am

In post 898, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 897, Chara wrote:i have to get going, but: Cerb, i understand if you're upset with me. please understand that i wasn't just dicking around, and i am completely cognizant of how scummy the timing of my claim retraction was.

pedit: Mark, you had me figured as a liar, or as scum?
I knew you were a liar. I was trying to figure out under what circumstances the play you were making was possible if you were town.

-Cerb

I need an answer from you on this Chara.

-Cerb

Maid Cafe · Post Post #905 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:12 am

In post 903, Chara wrote:and what did you get out of that?

I had a scum reaction in mind that you didn't do.
I think your slot is town but not for this.

~B

Maid Cafe · Post Post #906 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:15 am

Why didn't you retract sooner?
What did you hope to gain by temporarily holding onto the claim?

~B

Chara · Post Post #907 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:15 am

oh. to be fair, i didn't realize that was a question.

i don't want to answer this question, i'm sorry. i can explain why i did it?
for one, i wasn't going to accidentally force out any claims via making the claim i did, because it's negative utility. for two, it was relatively low-risk. it doesn't screw with town's actions in a way that would hurt town.
and three: i'm very confident in my ability to not be lynched.

OnTheMark · Post Post #908 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:15 am

In post 901, Maid Cafe wrote:Then I got mad because I feel like Mark is going against me for the sake of it.

~B

Nah it was because I knew the copy wouldn’t get useful shit as Chara was lying but I couldn’t figure out a decent way to explain while doing my job.

Reasonably Rational · Post Post #909 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:16 am

In post 907, Chara wrote:oh. to be fair, i didn't realize that was a question.

i don't want to answer this question, i'm sorry. i can explain why i did it?
for one, i wasn't going to accidentally force out any claims via making the claim i did, because it's negative utility. for two, it was relatively low-risk. it doesn't screw with town's actions in a way that would hurt town.
and three: i'm very confident in my ability to not be lynched.

What would you say if I told you your claim already hurt towns(my) actions, and you were 100% going to be lynched today as of 30 minutes ago?

-Cerb

Maid Cafe · Post Post #910 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:16 am

I mean Mark.

Chara doesn't want me to have mana because they don't think I am town.
You don't want me to have abilities for the sake of it despite thinking I am town.

What impression do you think I am going to get?

~B

Chara · Post Post #911 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:16 am

In post 906, Maid Cafe wrote:Why didn't you retract sooner?
What did you hope to gain by temporarily holding onto the claim?

~B

the longer i held onto it, the more extreme the result. if i'd retracted earlier, i don't think anyone would have cared. it certainly wouldn't have told me anything.

what was the scum reaction?

Maid Cafe · Post Post #912 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:17 am

In post 911, Chara wrote:what was the scum reaction?

Not relevant at this stage.

~B

Venmar · Post Post #913 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:17 am

In post 898, Reasonably Rational wrote:I knew you were a liar. I was trying to figure out under what circumstances the play you were making was possible if you were town.

cerb have you never seen town claim miller falsely?

Maid Cafe · Post Post #914 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:17 am

*raises hand*

Thrice actually.

~B

Reasonably Rational · Post Post #915 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:17 am

In post 913, Venmar wrote:
In post 898, Reasonably Rational wrote:I knew you were a liar. I was trying to figure out under what circumstances the play you were making was possible if you were town.
cerb have you never seen town claim miller falsely?

Doesn't matter if I have or not(I haven't), it's a nonsensical shitty play that's beneath Chara.

-Cerb

Chara · Post Post #916 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:18 am

In post 909, Reasonably Rational wrote:What would you say if I told you your claim already hurt towns(my) actions, and you were 100% going to be lynched today as of 30 minutes ago?

-Cerb

then i fucked up.
what, did you submit an unstoppable gladiate on me without waiting for my explanation?

Venmar · Post Post #917 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:18 am

In post 915, Reasonably Rational wrote:Doesn't matter if I have or not(I haven't), it's a nonsensical shitty play that's beneath Chara.

is chara town or scum

OnTheMark · Post Post #918 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:18 am

In post 910, Maid Cafe wrote:I mean Mark.

Chara doesn't want me to have mana because they don't think I am town.
You don't want me to have abilities for the sake of it despite thinking I am town.

What impression do you think I am going to get?

~B

I don’t want you to go through antitown crap to get them. It becomes nigh on impossible to tell what is scum and what is town.

Just be patient.

Reasonably Rational · Post Post #919 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:19 am

(beneath town!chara, that is)

@Chara: you'll just have to wait and find out.

-Cerb

OnTheMark · Post Post #920 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:20 am

If I was scum and said I needed to mislynch town to get powers.
Or make all votes invisible?

Where is the line?

Just stay far far away.

Reasonably Rational · Post Post #921 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:20 am

In post 917, Venmar wrote:
In post 915, Reasonably Rational wrote:Doesn't matter if I have or not(I haven't), it's a nonsensical shitty play that's beneath Chara.
is chara town or scum

No idea. Talking it through with Drixx.

Tempted to just get Chara lynched for doing a shitty thing, 25% chance we hit scum anyways!

-Cerb

Chara · Post Post #922 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:21 am

Cerb, if you submitted a kill on me (or whatever) because i lied, the onus is on you for having an itchy trigger finger and for doing that without having any concept that i might have a reason for what i did.

i didn't fake a guilty. i lied and then retracted in the span of maybe three rl days.

Reasonably Rational · Post Post #923 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:22 am

In post 922, Chara wrote:Cerb, if you submitted a kill on me (or whatever) because i lied, the onus is on you for having an itchy trigger finger and for doing that without having any concept that i might have a reason for what i did.

i didn't fake a guilty. i lied and then retracted in the span of maybe three rl days.

I should just expect everyone, even the people who I respect, to play like shit?

Got it. Will do so going forward.

Expectations officially lowered.

-Cerb

Maid Cafe · Post Post #924 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:24 am

Having 3 people that aren't voting temporarily vote in a certain why isn't remotely comparable to lynching town. It really just doesn't impact the game, 3 people can't vote for like 1 VC, 48 hours into the day.
Like even compared to Venmars mine is more or less a non factor it just requires a lot of cooperation.

~B