VARSOON VARIETY HOUR : GAME SCRAPPED

[Chara]

hey, i eventually realized RR was scum in SU2! ....even if it happened after i was dead and in a Crystal Gem bubble.

[Bronya Zaychik]

Iconeum doesn't feel like scum as i don't think they would look at the chorus of "Chara is obvtown for its dumb play" and say "but guys, i think you're ignoring all of the objectively scummy things". it's taking too much fire for an unpopular read, even if it does make sense.

players scumreading Iconeum, can you talk about this?

I'm scumreading Iconeum for his lack of vote on T and L earlier.

He laid out two premises

1) Mark v T and L was T v S
2) Mark was lock T

That leaves the conclusion that T and L is scum. T and L had a wagon. Iconeum doesn't vote there.

[Chara]

also, i am very, very confident in RR town. perhaps the reason is bad, but there you go!
and i will maintain that i read them correctly in Protomen, because i figured their wincon was town and

also

that they were lying. i just misinterpreted the setup. :>

[Reasonably Rational]

hey, i eventually realized RR was scum in SU2! ....even if it happened after i was dead and in a Crystal Gem bubble.

also, i am very, very confident in RR town. perhaps the reason is bad, but there you go!
and i will maintain that i read them correctly in Protomen, because i figured their wincon was town and

also

that they were lying. i just misinterpreted the setup. :>

Would you like a cookie?

-Cerb

[Venmar]

Or, to be more exact, you picked the safest reads in the game, trying to look useful scumhunting townie, but was not aware that you made a mistake and Dunnstral had only 1 post.

im known to have poor reading comprehension/remembrance but even i remembered maid cafe making this post:

Is it bad I town read Dunnstral for the timing of his "hi" post?
Because I do and according to Maki that's really stupid

~B

and like, not that it's a good reason to townread dunn, but it's there. did you just have a twitch reaction to cafe's townlist and grasp for a reason to shade it or?

[OnTheMark]

also, i am very, very confident in RR town. perhaps the reason is bad, but there you go!
and i will maintain that i read them correctly in Protomen, because i figured their wincon was town and

also

that they were lying. i just misinterpreted the setup. :>

This is part of why I don’t push RR. I disagree with you having seen Cerberus work in FFT but I am working in those parameters. If you genuinely said Bryona is town and meant it I wouldn’t push there either and just do Sky or munna.

[Bronya Zaychik]

We should play fun games like.

Cop, Vig, Doc where we give 3 names for each catrgory.

~B

Tried that.

Byrona doesn’t play

For liking puppies and giving me one supposedly they don’t play with them.

I'll play [Titus head]

Cop RR (We know I scared of you)
Doc RR (I can pick same slot right?)
Vig Iconeum T and L or Mark

[Chara]

This is part of why I don’t push RR. I disagree with you having seen Cerberus work in FFT but I am working in those parameters. If you genuinely said Bryona is town and meant it I wouldn’t push there either and just do Sky or munna.

unfortunately, i can't tell on Bryona yet, either.

on that note: guys, please sign? i know right now you're posting at different times, but if you start posting at the same time i'm going to be completely lost.

[Chara]

wait, they're already posting at the same time. well. :<

[Chara]

oh, Venmar's also joined the townlist.

[Reasonably Rational]

We should play fun games like.

Cop, Vig, Doc where we give 3 names for each catrgory.

~B

Tried that.

Byrona doesn’t play

For liking puppies and giving me one supposedly they don’t play with them.

I'll play [Titus head]

Cop RR (We know I scared of you)
Doc RR (I can pick same slot right?)
Vig Iconeum T and L or Mark

I can play too, but my answers are at this moment and subject to discussion with Drixx.

Cop Chara(obvious reasons)
Doc Shining Dreamers(I told Yume I'd do everything in my power to keep her alive!)
Vig Snarky, Dunn, or Taly(Low content)

-Cerb

[Venmar]

Oh yay!

Titus says to push something and I do.

Then I get called derp tunneling for pushing something and explaining my read as asked and assaults on my skill.

Please tell me to go write “OTM is a good player” then say I am a horrible player for writing it.

I don’t have time for this shit I am going to work.

Let me know when I am allowed to push someone.

going to hard lock mark in as town ladies and gents

[Maid Cafe]

Why would you cop a miller :^)


~B

[Bronya Zaychik]

Oh yay!

Titus says to push something and I do.

Then I get called derp tunneling for pushing something and explaining my read as asked and assaults on my skill.

Please tell me to go write “OTM is a good player” then say I am a horrible player for writing it.

I don’t have time for this shit I am going to work.

Let me know when I am allowed to push someone.

There's a difference between pushing and stopping listening by calling scumteams and ranting and doing preflips etc. :/

It's d1, let's get ppl to work together.

~Titus

[Reasonably Rational]

Oh yay!

Titus says to push something and I do.

Then I get called derp tunneling for pushing something and explaining my read as asked and assaults on my skill.

Please tell me to go write “OTM is a good player” then say I am a horrible player for writing it.

I don’t have time for this shit I am going to work.

Let me know when I am allowed to push someone.

There's a difference between pushing and stopping listening by calling scumteams and ranting and doing preflips etc. :/

It's d1, let's get ppl to work together.

~Titus

Yeah! Let's work together!~

I just need Drixx to come tell me who he's okay with me working with.


OH. Speaking of working with people.

MC: You said all your methods of generating mana were public. You only shared one method of gaining mana. Are there other public methods of gaining mana you possess that people can help you with? Don't share them if there are, I just want to know if I should be expecting other requests from you.

-Cerb

Spoiler: Not mafia related

If any of you were in Denver, would you go to a Mean Girls movie party at the Alamo Drafthouse? Just curious.

[OnTheMark]

Cerb, the game is like fuck, marry, kill, except it's with PR actions. and a way to discuss reads

I'd play fuck, marry, kill but it probably breaks a few site rules.

~B

I think only the kill does

I know a couple of people who I’d love to flirt with but I hold back.

This was a joke btw I hate unwanted flirting in mafia games.

[OnTheMark]

I would cop Bryona or RR
Doc Chara
Vig holster shot

[Bronya Zaychik]

pedit: Agreed with Chara. I want OTM to connect with people. The current game state has them standing a bit outside of the consensus' forming, which sucks for everyone because OTM can be really friggin helpful.

Cerb, the game is like fuck, marry, kill, except it's with PR actions. and a way to discuss reads

i'm not sure saying who is obvtown is useful when they're not in danger of being lynched, though.

as for this, yes. Mark's great. not my style at all, but saying they're derptunneling or that they've gone off the deep end just seems unfair when they haven't done anything of the sort.

Ah. Hmm. That makes more sense.

-Cerb

@Titus: I wasn't in Civ. And I was scum in SU2, therefore this can't be it redux. :-/

I would cop Bryona or RR
Doc Chara
Vig holster shot

The whole point is you cannot holster.

[OnTheMark]

pedit: Agreed with Chara. I want OTM to connect with people. The current game state has them standing a bit outside of the consensus' forming, which sucks for everyone because OTM can be really friggin helpful.

Cerb, the game is like fuck, marry, kill, except it's with PR actions. and a way to discuss reads

i'm not sure saying who is obvtown is useful when they're not in danger of being lynched, though.

as for this, yes. Mark's great. not my style at all, but saying they're derptunneling or that they've gone off the deep end just seems unfair when they haven't done anything of the sort.

Ah. Hmm. That makes more sense.

-Cerb

@Titus: I wasn't in Civ. And I was scum in SU2, therefore this can't be it redux. :-/

I would cop Bryona or RR
Doc Chara
Vig holster shot

The whole point is you cannot holster.

Fine. Then moderator random or tbd.

[OnTheMark]

Put Skybird there if for some reason they don’t eat rope.

[Skybird]

Ico, Chara says she was joking about the lynch town thing and those of us who took it seriously didn't read it right or something. I'd have to go back and re-read to see for sure but Chara seemed surprised at our reactions.

I don't know about anyone else, but it seems to be that MC's claimed method for getting mana is extremely complicated. I know the way I can gain mana is very straight forward and I don't really think Varsoon would make it so difficult for one slot to gain mana. They claim in post 88 that it would be best if town targeted them with actions. In post 558, they ask Chara to cross vote them so they can get mana. After getting questioned about it, they say in post 574 that they think everyone can gain mana more or less easily. When I call them out in post 689, they respond that they didn't explain exactly how the vote/mana thing worked (post 782). This is followed by more conditions on the vote/mana thing. It just seems very strange to me and not very towny. They want power so they can action at night. Why make themselves such a target?

There's also this:

@everyone also important note, if you have the ability to kill another player please opt to use another card if possible.
There are 8 planes to see across 8 days and I want to visit all of them.

~B

I think RR speculated earlier that scum might be controlling the planes we visit. How does MC know we have to go to a different plane each day? How do they know there are 8 planes? Did I miss something in Varsoon's starting posts?

Varsoon had a post up while he was making the game that showed his progress, and it showed x/8 planes created. In addition, he stated that if the game went longer than that, he'd start recycling them(or make new ones, he wasn't completely clear). So, there's cause to believe there are 8 planes.

-Cerb

Is this post still available somewhere?

[Maid Cafe]

@Cerb yes I can gain mana through other means that are also public.

~B

[baku and munna]

@mark ok push was a bad choice i meant generally the stuff you were talking about

does who is aligned with who (but not their actual alignment) count as an answer to that question?

Hey has Shiro been around and what thoughts has she given?

not yet

@OTM: I want to hear about Dunn and B&M.

-Cerb

Tonight.

Anyone catch what that post said before it was edited?

Dunn is null.

B&M is still scumlean would vote. I am wholly unimpressed with random’s answers. Of the people in the “would vote list” the only reason I hesitate is because Shiro made an effort to say V/LA and when he was scum before he didn’t.

ok this is blatant OMGUS
mark you're either playing shit or are scum making disingenuous pushes
VOTE: onthemark
let's throw down

[baku and munna]

also chara is scum caught in a gambit
skybird is lynch bait and ico possibly is as well but i'm not sure yet

[Reasonably Rational]

Ico, Chara says she was joking about the lynch town thing and those of us who took it seriously didn't read it right or something. I'd have to go back and re-read to see for sure but Chara seemed surprised at our reactions.

I don't know about anyone else, but it seems to be that MC's claimed method for getting mana is extremely complicated. I know the way I can gain mana is very straight forward and I don't really think Varsoon would make it so difficult for one slot to gain mana. They claim in post 88 that it would be best if town targeted them with actions. In post 558, they ask Chara to cross vote them so they can get mana. After getting questioned about it, they say in post 574 that they think everyone can gain mana more or less easily. When I call them out in post 689, they respond that they didn't explain exactly how the vote/mana thing worked (post 782). This is followed by more conditions on the vote/mana thing. It just seems very strange to me and not very towny. They want power so they can action at night. Why make themselves such a target?

There's also this:

@everyone also important note, if you have the ability to kill another player please opt to use another card if possible.
There are 8 planes to see across 8 days and I want to visit all of them.

~B

I think RR speculated earlier that scum might be controlling the planes we visit. How does MC know we have to go to a different plane each day? How do they know there are 8 planes? Did I miss something in Varsoon's starting posts?

Varsoon had a post up while he was making the game that showed his progress, and it showed x/8 planes created. In addition, he stated that if the game went longer than that, he'd start recycling them(or make new ones, he wasn't completely clear). So, there's cause to believe there are 8 planes.

-Cerb

Is this post still available somewhere?

Also, in the event there are more than 8 days, I'm just going to either design new planes or re-use ones I've already used. Haven't figured it out yet.

@MC: Noted. I really want to ask more but it's probably antitown to probe further.

-Cerb