VARSOON VARIETY HOUR : GAME SCRAPPED

[OnTheMark]

anyone wanna explain to me like im a little child how sky's alignment is tied to mine?

Already did earlier But I will probably end up doing it again for Cerb

[Venmar]

Hmm.

Actually, I just reread your iso.

You've done more than I remembered, Venmar. I think your tendency to mix complete shipposts in with your content may have caused me to disregard you prematurely.

Still don't think you've done anything especially town, but you haven't done as little as I thought you had.
-Cerb

Am townreading Venmar. Not strong enough IC-level but currently more than Shining Dreamers

where does titus stand on me?

[Venmar]

also kiana please quote your alt slipped posts for iso purposes or stop altslipping

[Reasonably Rational]

It's not an absolute. Scum knowing what town can do strengthens scum, rather than weakening town(subtle difference) but only significantly if they know exactly what the town can do. Scum knowing town have access to unspecified power ALSO strengthens scum, but good play on the part of town can help to mitigate the damage they can do.

In a void, it's best if scum have no idea what town can or can't do.

Why are you quoting a post that I'm pretty sure came from me? :p

-Cerb

[OnTheMark]

Because it did When you were town

[Reasonably Rational]

anyone wanna explain to me like im a little child how sky's alignment is tied to mine?

I don't see that either, but the set of statements OTM made can be applied to any pair of slots in this game and be accurate. It describes all possible relationshipships between two slots in a game with two factions.

-Cerb

[Bronya Zaychik]

Hmm.

Actually, I just reread your iso.

You've done more than I remembered, Venmar. I think your tendency to mix complete shipposts in with your content may have caused me to disregard you prematurely.

Still don't think you've done anything especially town, but you haven't done as little as I thought you had.
-Cerb

Am townreading Venmar. Not strong enough IC-level but currently more than Shining Dreamers

where does titus stand on me?

Your lack of a townread on me is annoying but I don't think you're scum. There's other people who I want to focus on first as if you are town I have faith I'll get that aha moment and we'll work together well.

~Titus

[Bronya Zaychik]

Spoiler: for my iso

Congratulations on building a paragraph case to townread "hi". Have a cookie!

You don't like cookies?

Interesting indeed.

Kiana you wanna explain to me why you don’t scumread Skybird?

I can't explain the absence of a scumread. Why don't you explain your scumread on Skybird instead?

Actually you can.

An absence of a scumread is either a nullread or a townread start there which is it? And why?

And I will expand once you, not Titus, answers the question.

Man I wish I knew who you were.

I am nulltownreading them. Mainly gut, they aren't very memorable anyhow.

Right now, I feel like either Maid Cafe or OTM is scum, I'm not sure which one though leaning towards Maid Cafe. I didn't like 53 and 88 from them.

Tibor and Lumia ping town to me. That is a gut read.

Pre-edit: Thanks Phosphophyllite

If OTM is town (and that's quite possible) this flips scum all the time and I'll prob want to vote here

Skybird, Creature, RR, Shinding D townread.

Maid Café should respond to 237. I love how she bashes OTM for not responding, yet doesn't answer herself.

Maid scumreading right now. Maybe lyncher - lynchee with OTM. That would be hilarious

Why do you townread Skybird I assume it's for the post above because the other 3 posts are just greetings and considering skybird has prob the worst post in the game I'm interested to see your answer.
~Maki

Interesting.

You push Maid Cafe, even switch your vote to them, despite the fact Iconeum pushed Maid Cafe earlier in an unprovoked way. Usually means Iconeum isn’t scum with Maid Cafe. Furthermore it seems like you’re actively ignoring the currents of the person you are voting why?

When Skybird has had major pushes of your scumread they are unremarkable?

This is to Kiana not Titus.

There's no rule saying that scum can't vote each other!

Yeah right now whatever's being pushed onto Skybird is absolutely not convincing at all.

I have a hunch the team is Sky, Bryona, RR and munna

Need time to type up my Sky case and I am at work but that’s my hunch.

I have a hunch that that particular team would be undetectable on D1. <3

But I look forward to reading a real case and taking it seriously.

-Cerb

Approved.

One thing's for certain, Mathblade has gone off the deep end. Going to take a look at what Titus has to say about all this.

We should play fun games like.

Cop, Vig, Doc where we give 3 names for each catrgory.

~B

Tried that.

Byrona doesn’t play

For liking puppies and giving me one supposedly they don’t play with them.

I don't play, but Titus plays.

bronya's buddying of alisae on page 58 gives me

shudders

pedit: o shit, there it is, the cerb discredit. do you actually believe i have been completely useless? do you even read my posts?

shudders of excitement, perhaps?

Hmm.

Actually, I just reread your iso.

You've done more than I remembered, Venmar. I think your tendency to mix complete shipposts in with your content may have caused me to disregard you prematurely.

Still don't think you've done anything especially town, but you haven't done as little as I thought you had.
-Cerb

Am townreading Venmar. Not strong enough IC-level but currently more than Shining Dreamers

[Reasonably Rational]

Because it did When you were town

Thought so. I was trying to figure out what game had missions, or why I phrased it as missions. I was thinking that was from Shadowrun perhaps, and I was concerned about scum being chosen to be on the team, but would think I'd phrase it as a run, not a mission. Perhaps I was off my flavor game.
-Cerb

[Bronya Zaychik]

@On The Mark, How's the progress on me getting you to slow down and clarify your thoughts?

~Titus

[OnTheMark]

I posted my Cerb case and Cerb seems to understand it and I am about to go a different approach and Drixx it up for why Venmar and Iconeum are both likely town. Would like for you to read it and make a judgment for yourself instead of asking me.

@Cerb here you are btw https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 7#p8251167

[OnTheMark]

Like this is the shit that really annoys me about you Titus but it’s worse when you’re scum.

I do as you ask then you either attack my skill/play for doing as you ask or you never evaluate the original ask.

So how about you tell me if you like my case on Skybird that has no associatives?

[Bronya Zaychik]

Any questions for me before I leave? Titus is on, so she can handle general game stuff, but Kiana head is bored.

~Kiana

[Reasonably Rational]

Yay it was shadowrun! Man, I have a pretty unique voice when I'm writing in this games, to me at least. :p

-Cerb

[Bronya Zaychik]

@Mark, Who are you even talking to? I am asking about a readwall from you. You keep telling me later and then doing other engagements in the thread that feel like making busiwork. I'm not talking case everyone. Just like

Adam. Town, His enagement with Brian on page X was really town.

[Bronya Zaychik]

Titus, Mark cased Skybird in 1466. You can take a look at it, I think he wants you to see it.

I don't like it personally but I don't want to garcia.

[Bronya Zaychik]

1564 by titus, 1565 by kiana

~Kiana

[Bronya Zaychik]

Like this is the shit that really annoys me about you Titus but it’s worse when you’re scum.

I do as you ask then you either attack my skill/play for doing as you ask or you never evaluate the original ask.

So how about you tell me if you like my case on Skybird that has no associatives?

You haven't. That's why I am hounding you trying to get you to focus.

I'm frankly not enthused by anything you have said on Skybird. Could they be scum? Yes. However, we are much likely to work with you on scumreads. I think Skybird sounds really genuine. I'm a little miffed you randomly left Iconeum when they haven't posted since their wagon.

~Titus

[OnTheMark]

@Mark, Who are you even talking to? I am asking about a readwall from you. You keep telling me later and then doing other engagements in the thread that feel like making busiwork. I'm not talking case everyone. Just like

Adam. Town, His enagement with Brian on page X was really town.

Oh now you moved the goal posts to everyone? Wow

And the Adam’s engagement with Brian on page X is an associative.

So like I still don’t know what you want?

[Venmar]

Your lack of a townread on me is annoying but I don't think you're scum. There's other people who I want to focus on first as if you are town I have faith I'll get that aha moment and we'll work together well.

~Titus

why is it annoying? neither head has really done anything too townie. if you're town i'll sort you as such later.

any comment on your #1315 and #1318, where it definitely feels like you're actually leaning on a scumread on me?

[Reasonably Rational]

@Mark, Who are you even talking to? I am asking about a readwall from you. You keep telling me later and then doing other engagements in the thread that feel like making busiwork. I'm not talking case everyone. Just like

Adam. Town, His enagement with Brian on page X was really town.

Oh now you moved the goal posts to everyone? Wow

And the Adam’s engagement with Brian on page X is an associative.

So like I still don’t know what you want?

I think the goal post was always at everyone. Maybe Titus just said she wanted thoughts without associatives, and didn't specify on everyone. *shrug* and I also think she's talking more about stuff like x+y are scum together, not this interaction x had with y makes me think they're town because it appears to be genuine scumhunting.

-Cerb

[OnTheMark]

Like this is the shit that really annoys me about you Titus but it’s worse when you’re scum.

I do as you ask then you either attack my skill/play for doing as you ask or you never evaluate the original ask.

So how about you tell me if you like my case on Skybird that has no associatives?

You haven't. That's why I am hounding you trying to get you to focus.

I'm frankly not enthused by anything you have said on Skybird. Could they be scum? Yes. However, we are much likely to work with you on scumreads. I think Skybird sounds really genuine. I'm a little miffed you randomly left Iconeum when they haven't posted since their wagon.

~Titus

Why does Skybird sound genuine?

What posts specifically?

I have posted things where I believe Skybird isn’t. The burden of proof is on you to either attack the premises I have presented or to present new ones where you believe Skybird is genuine. It isn’t enough to barebones disagree. You asked me for a case. I did that. Now interact with it and attack where you think it’s bad or I humbly request the court of public opinion to admit the wall as evidence to be considered.

If I was in a courtroom and I have a tape of a scumspect killing someone they have to attack the tape or claim vig. I want a similar response from you regarding my case.

[Bronya Zaychik]

Your lack of a townread on me is annoying but I don't think you're scum. There's other people who I want to focus on first as if you are town I have faith I'll get that aha moment and we'll work together well.

~Titus

why is it annoying? neither head has really done anything too townie. if you're town i'll sort you as such later.

any comment on your #1315 and #1318, where it definitely feels like you're actually leaning on a scumread on me?

More keeping an eye on. Putting your reads as the consensus is what you and I did in Civ and we were mostly right. I think it was just too early for that yet. Townblocks happen a bit more organically but they can still be observed. Think more gun to my head town but don't do anything crazy is my read.

~Titus

[Reasonably Rational]

I also don't think Titus asked you for a case. I did...

-Cerb

[Bronya Zaychik]

@Mark, Who are you even talking to? I am asking about a readwall from you. You keep telling me later and then doing other engagements in the thread that feel like making busiwork. I'm not talking case everyone. Just like

Adam. Town, His enagement with Brian on page X was really town.

Oh now you moved the goal posts to everyone? Wow

And the Adam’s engagement with Brian on page X is an associative.

So like I still don’t know what you want?

I think the goal post was always at everyone. Maybe Titus just said she wanted thoughts without associatives, and didn't specify on everyone. *shrug* and I also think she's talking more about stuff like x+y are scum together, not this interaction x had with y makes me think they're town because it appears to be genuine scumhunting.

-Cerb

I've said readwall multiple times. Otherwise, yes. I even gave an example earlier this morning of what I want.

Mark has left several theories dangling, T and L, Inconeum, Random scum team call, me being scum under an unnamed theory. I want him to stop, sit back and think.