"Wrath is no vice when inflicted upon the deserving."
Flavor Text : Akroma, Angel of Wrath
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"Wrath is no vice when inflicted upon the deserving."
Flavor Text : Akroma, Angel of Wrath
Aren't you just a joyful ray of sunshine?In post 1138, OnTheMark wrote:
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Now Skybird makes a push on Chara who is obvTown so the push will go nowhere.
It’s just noise.
I haven’t seen a single positive contribution from the slot.
First off, post 243 isn't even my post. So that isn't relevant to a case against me.In post 1466, OnTheMark wrote:Notice how here in 243 Skybird doesn't actually follow up. She asks a question then doesn't ask another question to sort the slot or do anything with it. It's more like just noise. This 'inactivity'/'inopinion'/'no stances' will be a common theme.
In post 260 Skybird again asks another inactive question, seemingly trying to encourage people to get into the issues that beeboy and I were having earlier without actually investing anything in there. She feels like one of us is scum but doesn't actually follow it up in any sort of way. It looks like it's more designed to try egg people into the Beeboy/me discussion.
You totally read this post wrong. The Maki head of MC said my post was the worst of the game. I am poking fun at having the worst post. Why would I say anything else in this post? Am I not allowed to make a joke?In 323 Skybird sarcastically comments that she has the worst post in the game, but then doesn't do a damn thing to hunt or otherwise. The closest thing towards a read from Skybird is a guess, but she has shown no interest in exploring it or anything. Between this and the inactivity, I wanted to see Skybird develop the read.
I said it was a gut read. OTM, I'm old enough to be your mother and my generation likes it when people are nice. Deal with it. And yeah, I will town read nice on D1. So what? I won't be town reading nice on D3, and maybe not even on D2 without other reasons to go with it.In 364 they finally justify a read and it's for updating a signature line upon request. About the most null of things as one can get. Now while I understand one CAN townread someone for very little (e.g. what I mentioned before) I'd want something else to complement that person's ISO. In other words, the townread of Dunnstral is accompanied with a lot of other things to read the slot. In this case Skybird has nothing.
Let's look at the language here. Where exactly in that post did I vote for anyone? (Here's a big hint, I voted for no one in post 381.) Second, what about asking a question is attacking a player? You sure are stretching to make people want to lynch me.
381 has very little in terms of hunting.Again, Skybird comes out votes blazing.This time SkybirdattacksVenmar for wanting powers. However shedoesn'tattack On the Maid for the same thing, despite the prior scumread of Maid. If anything this wouldn't cause them to change votes to Venmar but would strengthen their case on Maid. The switch here reads as very inauthentic.
Let's get things straight. I stated in post 260 that my read on T&L was a gut read. Chara asked me how that was AI in post 385. It told her it wasn't AI in post 471 and that was why it was a gut read. Where exactly did I call T&L town without also calling it a gut read? Here's a hint, you won't find it. So how exactly am I stepping back from an authentic read?471 Steps back the ONE authentic read saying it's not really AI but it's gut. In other words, you caught me fabricating a reason for my read so I'm going to say gut.
In the post I quoted in 513, Venmar stated that T&L's reaction to Chara's "it's bad for town to lynch scum D1" talk was a scum reaction. Venmar had previously voted T&L for their reaction (post 480). I thought Venmar's vote was bad and so asked him if he was scum with Chara.513 is an attack on Venmar that again she doesn't follow up on.
You should probably finish the sentence because they way you have it above you make it sound like I think both you and MC are scum. The question T&L asked was why was it one or the other as scum, why can't both be town. I admitted that they could both be town, not that you are both scum. I also said they669 backs out of her read of one of me and Maid being scum saying that we both might be.
Whatever. I didn't realize every post I made in this game had to be pushing someone. I don't play the game like you do OTM. again, deal with it.689 Then goes back to "Oh yeah there was something bad in that argument" simply based on being asked what her position is on me. Her position on me or any other slot shouldn't end with a vote on Maid Cafe. If she was genuinely pushing Maid she'd be like putting effort in. Right now Skybird is pretty empty.
If you can't actually state the reason, is it really a reason?780 Reasons Reasons Reasons
How in the world does that post potentially out a vig? MC doesn't want people to kill other players so they can see all 8 planes. If anyone is potentially outing vigs, it's MC not me.1059 What's really bad about the post that Skybird cited is that it potentially outs a vig if we have one. This is barely the semblance of a case, then again I know where she stands on literallly NO one else.
Another big stretch. All I said was what if I'm town. That in no way is pleading for you to push MC. Since you are so sure I'm scum, lynch me. I really don't fucking care. In before OTM says "look she's flailing!"1230 Pleads for me to push MC if she's town. If she's town I'd consider it but it's surely not on anything Sky has done.
This is purely meta. If you believe you can change your meta, don't you think other's can as well?Scum game of Skybird's. Noticably devoid of questions. She does do a bit more in reads than she does here, but it's still more just declaratives. I kinda have a rule for Skybird. If the questions aren't flying out of her mouth enough to make her fly she's probably scum.
Those who want it are not worthy of it; those who seek it not are those that obtain it.
Too bad you need exactly that in order to townread the slot!In post 414, Bronya Zaychik wrote:<3 Maki I hope you're not scum today!
This is the sort of thing people often ask me about and each time I internally go more or less "uhg, they want me to answer that, don't they?" when I honestly don't like to. The reason I don't like to is that more often than not (this game no exception)...if I don't comment on something, it's not relevant. In other words, that it meant nothing. Or at the very least...it meant nothing to me at the time, and still doesn't but is something to potentially revisit at some future time.In post 418, OnTheMark wrote:How do you feel about the other players making this point? Are they sheeps or town? Why?
I did! I just did so in a PT!In post 418, OnTheMark wrote:I wish you'd talk more about the people you scumread more.
I think mastina scumreading me no matter what her alignment is makes an ICIn post 1678, Shining Dreamers wrote:Btw for the purposes of full disclosure--Yume did in fact inform me that Alisae was in the game and replaced Taly, though she didn't tell me anything except that Alisae was scum more or less. I backed her up though because that is in fact quite likely.
You need more conviction and emphasis to pull the Almost50 off.In post 477, Chara wrote:historically, a scum lynch on day 1 is actually worse for town. sometimes, it can work out wonderfully despite that. but for the most part, i'd call it bad. Maki knows what i mean. therefore, seeing as my role powers up on town deaths, and a day 1 scum lynch is bad for town, i propose we collectively agree to lynch town. i know it sounds silly, but it makes sense. i hate seeing town do well on the first day only to tank every other.
VOTE: Mark
40 pages have passed so I expect to see this.In post 495, Reasonably Rational wrote:Also also another thing, but I wanna wait and see what everybody else has to say before I bring it up. <3
AKA, "these last few pages contained things I didn't want to bother countering so I'll not try".In post 484, Maid Cafe wrote:These last few pages were literal garbage btw and I stopped reading them.
~B
This is going to blow your mind, but there is in fact ACTUALLY a player where I did this. That is. I decided I was going to push them from the moment I got my PM.In post 524, baku and munna wrote:it seemed like they started from the position "we're pushing maid cafe" rather than either "we are looking at evidence for maid cafe's alignment" or "we think maid cafe is scum, what evidence supports this"
Nope! The reason Chara is town is because Chara is just transparently obviously not scum. Nothing in its content being protown contributes to that though its content is indeed protown; the reason Chara is town is because Chara bleeds obvtown every step of the way.In post 516, baku and munna wrote:people are confusing chara doing protown things with it meaning they are more likely to be town.
...Yes I think OnTheMark is town, but this townread? It sounds like a townread based on OnTheMark doing protown things (the very thing you tell people not to townread Chara off of). Care to tell me how it's not?In post 516, baku and munna wrote:OTM is either town of playing an extremely smart scum game.
Why is it that literally only my scumreads (e.g. Maid Cafe, Reasonably Rational) make reference to the planes and yet literally nobody else is talking about them?In post 506, Maid Cafe wrote:@everyone also important note, if you have the ability to kill another player please opt to use another card if possible.
There are 8 planes to see across 8 days and I want to visit all of them.
~B
What a terrible concern.In post 1683, Shining Dreamers wrote:Why is it that literally only my scumreads (e.g. Maid Cafe, Reasonably Rational) make reference to the planes and yet literally nobody else is talking about them?
No.
None of which makes them town, it just makes them Reasonably Rational.In post 568, baku and munna wrote:RR is obv towning tbh, they are asking the right questions and moving the game forwards.
Mastina please for the love of all that is townie catch up. I am Mathblade.In post 1685, Shining Dreamers wrote:No.
There's only so many players who are mafiascum regulars, have been gone from playing on mafiascum for the last few (specifically, three) months, and who are frequent players on mafia universe that get nightkilled often there. Also that're rather fond of the theory behind the game. I can think of only one player fitting that criteria, and he's a player I have mislynched. (This is the safest way for me to not narrow his identity down. I'd do so considerably more when stating what happened after said mislynch.)
None of which makes them town, it just makes them Reasonably Rational.In post 568, baku and munna wrote:RR is obv towning tbh, they are asking the right questions and moving the game forwards.
Hey, where are you at on Maid Cafe again OTM? I'm pretty sure you and mastina have basically identical reads.In post 1689, OnTheMark wrote:Mastina please for the love of all that is townie catch up. I am Mathblade.In post 1685, Shining Dreamers wrote:No.
There's only so many players who are mafiascum regulars, have been gone from playing on mafiascum for the last few (specifically, three) months, and who are frequent players on mafia universe that get nightkilled often there. Also that're rather fond of the theory behind the game. I can think of only one player fitting that criteria, and he's a player I have mislynched. (This is the safest way for me to not narrow his identity down. I'd do so considerably more when stating what happened after said mislynch.)
None of which makes them town, it just makes them Reasonably Rational.In post 568, baku and munna wrote:RR is obv towning tbh, they are asking the right questions and moving the game forwards.
I got nk’d after naming like 8 scum in a row over mechanically sound power roles.
RIP I thought you offered because you're an angel, not because you're a devil.
I did encourage Yume to push more btw.In post 614, OnTheMark wrote:I would love to hear your opinions more.
In post 604, Chara wrote:after looking some more, there are certainly cards that do this besides the ones i posted. should i be townreading Maid Cafe for this? they were nullscum before but now i'm musing.In post 574, Maid Cafe wrote:There is no magic mechanic that enables you to steal someones mana and Varsoon is trying to stay true to the real game.
How likely do you wager it, Chara, that a player claiming to have that level of flavor knowledge would miss this fact?In post 615, Maid Cafe wrote:Me and Cerb have flavor knowledge and flavor is something that apparently matters a lot this game. I think we pose a threat to a scum team with 0 magic knowledge.
~B
Oh I've no doubt it's in the hydra PT, I just don't think that's the only place you put it.In post 617, Reasonably Rational wrote:^^ Also, I wrote up my response to your post in our hydra PT, but since nobody seems to care about your case or agree with you(so far), I won't bother posting it! <3
-Cerb
This makes sense. I have a thing I imagine everyone else could have.In post 1694, Shining Dreamers wrote:Btw I shared this in the PT but I don't think it does harm to bring it out in the open.
I lowkey have a theory that every player in the game has something they think is unique to them that they are attempting to hide, but which in actuality every player in the game has.
If my theory is right, what this is should be fairly self-evident; if my theory is not right, then obviously people won't have a clue what I mean.
This would be among the reasons I held distaste for Reasonably Rational's response, yes.In post 641, Venmar wrote:right now you're just smugly dismissing and discrediting the case.
Incidentally, no surprise why Reasonably Rational is in fact in my lynch list!In post 631, Shining Dreamers wrote:As for RR, the patented Phosphophyllite test is that unless they bring actual read to the main thread, you hang them and you look happy doing it. Not into any PTs alone. Into the main thread. You cannot fail in this way.
- Phosphophyllite
Why wouldn't we lynch Alisae's role again? I want your reasons for it, other than "it's powerful".In post 1526, Micc wrote:im just trying to understand your intentions because I still haven't decided how much I trust what you're doing here. but you role's obviously powerful and we aren't lynching it so me voting you is stupid