VARSOON VARIETY HOUR : GAME SCRAPPED

[Shining Dreamers]

Iconeum are scummy.

Skybird is Hinduragi and Iconeum is mastina. Iconeum is townreading one of the scummiest posts in the game off the belief that Skybird is town and desires to work with her but he is being naive because Skybird is actually just scum.

[Purple Heart]

eh i think im going to change my vote to the guy that has been all voice and... that's it

vote: reasonably rational

BUT CAN I INTEREST YOU
IN MICC?

[Reasonably Rational]

So, Venmar, why now and not earlier?

-Cerb

[Shining Dreamers]

anyone with meta on cerb, can you confirm or deny if it's in his town range to shade/discredit people (not exclusively regarding chara, it's something i've seen him do this game and it's bothering me).

Not in the way he's done this game, no, but as scum it's a favored tactic of his.

I don't understand why you think I'm discrediting them. I just know it's going ot be really hard for me to look at the tally of their actions this game on like D5 adn be able to definitely conclude they're town. :-/

Maybe because that's literally what you're fucking doing and the followthrough sentence is self-evidently proof of it.

Shining Dreamers
Chara

Maid Cafe

Venmar
Dunnstral

Reasonably Rational
Baku and Munna

These slots are all town btw ^^

Yeahhhhhhhhhh, aboooooooooooout thaaaaaat......

[Venmar]

So, Venmar, why now and not earlier?

-Cerb

because it's silly now

eh i think im going to change my vote to the guy that has been all voice and... that's it

vote: reasonably rational

BUT CAN I INTEREST YOU
IN MICC?

for 2 anime coins, maybe

[Shining Dreamers]

gonna have to make sure you die before Lylo then.
~Maki

There's an easy way to accomplish that!

Can I just pretend the group of people below are all IC's, and go from there? Anybody think that leads to a loss a significant percentage of the time?
OnTheMark
Shining Dreamers (Hydra: Yume & Mastina)
Chara

Baku and Munna (Hydra: Randomidget & Shiro)
Maid Cafe (Hydra: Maki & Beeboy)

Bronya Zaychik (Hydra: Titus & Kiana Kaslana)
-Cerb

Given the bolded?

Why yes.

Yes, I do.

[Purple Heart]

So, Venmar, why now and not earlier?

-Cerb

because it's silly now

eh i think im going to change my vote to the guy that has been all voice and... that's it

vote: reasonably rational

BUT CAN I INTEREST YOU
IN MICC?

for 2 anime coins, maybe

I will gladly give you two anime coins.

[Shining Dreamers]

Stopped at page 35, got bored pretty quickly

Creature might actually be scum this game.

Creature is posting regularly = likely Town!Creature here

I thought I posted too little.

Correct. And also it's what you're doing WHEN posting. I'm looking for something from you which I'd expect if you were town and I am not seeing it.

However, you're not a scumread because there's a potential sign of what I'm looking for. I need more time.

was it Maid Cafe's list that also had Baku in it? talk about that? :>

It's ALMOST like there might be some reason these slots have that interlink!

[OnTheMark]

So, Venmar, why now and not earlier?

-Cerb

because it's silly now

eh i think im going to change my vote to the guy that has been all voice and... that's it

vote: reasonably rational

BUT CAN I INTEREST YOU
IN MICC?

for 2 anime coins, maybe

Reasonably Rational will never get majority.

I agree with the read but it’s a horrible vote.

You and I will never outspeak Cerb. Unless someone well liked and respected hops on the wagon is done, unfortunately.

[Reasonably Rational]

So, Venmar, why now and not earlier?

-Cerb

because it's silly now

eh i think im going to change my vote to the guy that has been all voice and... that's it

vote: reasonably rational

BUT CAN I INTEREST YOU
IN MICC?

for 2 anime coins, maybe

Reasonably Rational will never get majority.

I agree with the read but it’s a horrible vote.

You and I will never outspeak Cerb. Unless someone well liked and respected hops on the wagon is done, unfortunately.

Plus I have an ace up my sleeve! Though mastina slot is already on the wagon! But mastina head probably isn't the one that placed the vote. :p

-Cerb

[Shining Dreamers]

- Creature is Town, he's active enough

I have some reservations, but I'm seeing more of what I'm after, so yes. More likely than not.

So what changed your read from point A to point B here?

A fine question indeed! (Did I mention Dunnstral is town?)

You’re just scum

You know what.

VOTE: Skybird.

Let's go here.

If Yume doesn't mind.
Then strongest scumread + others I trust scumreading the slot = likely scum lynch D1.

[Venmar]

hey now, you won't achieve your dreams with

that

attitude my friend

pedit: @OTM's last post

[Purple Heart]

Creature might actually be scum this game.

oh hell no.


btw scum!creature has 10 posts not 66 posts
tbf I do wish the number of posts he had was bigger though.

[OnTheMark]

So, Venmar, why now and not earlier?

-Cerb

because it's silly now

eh i think im going to change my vote to the guy that has been all voice and... that's it

vote: reasonably rational

BUT CAN I INTEREST YOU
IN MICC?

for 2 anime coins, maybe

Reasonably Rational will never get majority.

I agree with the read but it’s a horrible vote.

You and I will never outspeak Cerb. Unless someone well liked and respected hops on the wagon is done, unfortunately.

Plus I have an ace up my sleeve! Though mastina slot is already on the wagon! But mastina head probably isn't the one that placed the vote. :p

-Cerb

You literally can’t. There is no role that provides an ace up the sleeve. It’s why I don’t give a shit about what people claim. There is no deck or rational basis. Roles are not alignment indicative.

Hell you could be a scum with what would be the scum equivalent of an IC and just claim IC. Until and unless a moderator confirms someone as town I don’t give a monkey’s butt what you claim I don’t care about mechanics in terms of alignment. So no you don’t have an ace and if you believe you do save it don’t fucking talk about it now.

[OnTheMark]

hey now, you won't achieve your dreams with

that

attitude my friend

pedit: @OTM's last post

Meh I don’t give a shit about dreams right now.

Mafia is a game of influence. I will save up my chips if I have to.

[Venmar]

Putting your reads as the consensus is what you and I did in Civ and we were mostly right.

just remembered this response; i don't remember playing in any "civ" games?

[OnTheMark]

It’s the whole reason Chara’s claim was bullshit and it was obvTown. If roles are independent of alignments then a Miller makes 0 sense to claim and doesn’t come from scum. Scum have to plan long term. Same with Yume/mastina.

If I am in lylo with those two just stick a fork in me town loses because I would have 0 fuckin clue.

[Shining Dreamers]

Varsoon had a post up while he was making the game that showed his progress, and it showed x/8 planes created. In addition, he stated that if the game went longer than that, he'd start recycling them(or make new ones, he wasn't completely clear). So, there's cause to believe there are 8 planes.
-Cerb

Yes but it's that very same process which would lead me to think that planes aren't important--if V reached a point where he was forced to make up a new plane, that would mean that there couldn't exactly be pre-planned game mechanics for said made up ninth plane, now, could it? As a result, that would mean planes mean little to nothing...

...And I find it no coincidence many of my scumreads keep referencing the planes as a result. Because the mod's posts indicate that the planes can't be that important (if they were then making up a ninth plane would be something he'd need to do IN ADVANCE), and thus that is the assumption I'd work off of, unless there were direct mod info stating otherwise available to certain select parties......

I don't know about anyone else, but it seems to be that MC's claimed method for getting mana is extremely complicated.

Mine is, too.

Sadly, V likes making scum just as equally complicated as town so this doesn't mean much.

HOWEVER.

You may note.

I've raised a point more or less similar to what you have said.
bee attacked me for my claim, which I rescinded when the mod corrected me...
...Then went on to claim in the exact same manner I had done, which was forced to be rescinded when V corrected bee.

That's what I was getting at before.

[Reasonably Rational]

So, Venmar, why now and not earlier?

-Cerb

because it's silly now

eh i think im going to change my vote to the guy that has been all voice and... that's it

vote: reasonably rational

BUT CAN I INTEREST YOU
IN MICC?

for 2 anime coins, maybe

Reasonably Rational will never get majority.

I agree with the read but it’s a horrible vote.

You and I will never outspeak Cerb. Unless someone well liked and respected hops on the wagon is done, unfortunately.

Plus I have an ace up my sleeve! Though mastina slot is already on the wagon! But mastina head probably isn't the one that placed the vote. :p

-Cerb

You literally can’t. There is no role that provides an ace up the sleeve. It’s why I don’t give a shit about what people claim. There is no deck or rational basis. Roles are not alignment indicative.

Hell you could be a scum with what would be the scum equivalent of an IC and just claim IC. Until and unless a moderator confirms someone as town I don’t give a monkey’s butt what you claim I don’t care about mechanics in terms of alignment. So no you don’t have an ace and if you believe you do save it don’t fucking talk about it now.

\Actually, I think I might be lynchable today, if I didn't speak again. I think total number of players-expressed townreads=lynch threshold right now, but just barely.

And sure, i know I don't have an actual card up my sleeve, but it's fun to act like I do!

Can we do something productive? I feel like nothing productive is really happening. :-/ And yes, I'm part of the problem right now, but I don't really feel like putting the thought into initiating something, but I'm okay with reacting to stuff.

-Cerb

[OnTheMark]

Putting your reads as the consensus is what you and I did in Civ and we were mostly right.

just remembered this response; i don't remember playing in any "civ" games?

She probably meant Vecna. Titus confuses names a lot.

[Reasonably Rational]

Man, mastina is really on about this whole planes aren't important thing when it was clearly stated that they can be so game altering as to be considered bastard by some.

...

I wonder when she'll get to my post, or go reread the OP, and realize that they *must* be important, if uncontrollable as far as we can tell.

-Cerb

[OnTheMark]

Mastina can we not talk claims

please

? How you get mana what can you do with mana your deck colors your planeswalker name and how many periods and symbols are in your role PM none of it is alignment indicative.

What matters is what is done with it and how. Please stop making this game confusing people.

Just treat it like a mountainous and that occasionally you do things.

[Venmar]

Meh I don’t give a shit about dreams right now.

Mafia is a game of influence. I will save up my chips if I have to.

now join the cause you've been destined for

[Purple Heart]

Yes but it's that very same process which would lead me to think that planes aren't important--if V reached a point where he was forced to make up a new plane, that would mean that there couldn't exactly be pre-planned game mechanics for said made up ninth plane, now, could it? As a result, that would mean planes mean little to nothing...

Knox's 8th. It is forbidden for the case to be resolved with clues that are not presented.

[OnTheMark]

And yes I do mean OCCASIONALLY. If everyone uses their abilities now then we get fucked if we need something later.