VARSOON VARIETY HOUR : GAME SCRAPPED

[Reasonably Rational]

@OTM: Again, pretty sure that the colorless bit just means that the mechanism by which the hood is created requires no colored mana...

@Purple Heart: No, they're still right that it's SIGNIFICANTLY more likely than not that there is scum in that hood, given that the alignment of those in the hood was functionally randomly selected, and if there is scum in the hood, they already know the membership, which means it's an area where scum likely have an advantage over town in terms of knowledge, which should be mitigated if at all possible by sharing the membership of the hood.

-Cerb

[OnTheMark]

Mark, why did you unvote Dreamerz?

I'm very anti waffles. I like to squish scum into pancakes.

I unvoted Mastina+Yume because I was thinking I could have done a wagon on Random who I thought was in the hood flash wagon without having had to go through all that.

Quite honestly until Mastina+Yume out who is in the hood they are still fine for rope but they are no where near my top scumspecrs and at the time I thought I had scum dead to rights.

[OnTheMark]

@OTM: Again, pretty sure that the colorless bit just means that the mechanism by which the hood is created requires no colored mana...

@Purple Heart: No, they're still right that it's SIGNIFICANTLY more likely than not that there is scum in that hood, given that the alignment of those in the hood was functionally randomly selected, and if there is scum in the hood, they already know the membership, which means it's an area where scum likely have an advantage over town in terms of knowledge, which should be mitigated if at all possible by sharing the membership of the hood.

-Cerb

And mastina is based on a colored PT which would necessitate a colored mana. I am 100% sure it’s a different thing. I can’t copy paste but I am 100% sure that it is something else.

[Reasonably Rational]

Mark, why did you unvote Dreamerz?

I'm very anti waffles. I like to squish scum into pancakes.

I unvoted Mastina+Yume because I was thinking I could have done a wagon on Random who I thought was in the hood flash wagon without having had to go through all that.

Quite honestly until Mastina+Yume out who is in the hood they are still fine for rope but they are no where near my top scumspecrs and at the time I thought I had scum dead to rights.

Can you please explain how you came to the conclusion that certain people were in the hood?

-Cerb

pedit: I'm sure it's a different thing too, because it seems like it's part of their role to be in a hood, NOT that they were neighborized together.

[Maid Cafe]

I thought this was an argument on if we should lynch in the hood because it's a high % scum were in it not that we were in one

I thought this arguement was about which one was better: waffles, pancakes, or french toast.

pancakes

[OnTheMark]

Spoiler: Quote Wall where I thought Beeboy said they were in the hood

Okay Beeboy

Let’s assume there are more than three people in the hood. You mastina and random and this other group of players. For sake of argument I will call them silent hood people.
Let’s assume random is scum.

Random would tell the scumbuddies who the silent people are yes?

What do we gain by having town know about the hood?
Also what reason do we have to believe "random" in this situation is scum beyond rand chance.

~B

I think we have no reason to believe scum is in the hood beyond rand and it isnt info that is relevant to the town atm.

~B

What’s up is you need to put the fourth member of the hood. It’s pretty straightforward.

But monte hall problem doesn't work in the way you brought it up.
Why do we need a 4th? I'm obv bias cause I've heard bees argument whats yours
~Maki

Then why didn’t you say so despite me asking like a billion times? And you kept saying “we gain by having town know about the hood”

So you weren’t in the hood and just fucking with me?

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@Cerb

[Maid Cafe]

Okay Maki away if you need me let beeboy know

[Reasonably Rational]

And what about random? Where do they come into play? And none of those posts are beeboy saying they're in the hood.

...

-Cerb

[OnTheMark]

Okay Maki away if you need me let beeboy know

Not really I mean beeboy pretty much by acting as if he was in the hood or leaving the impression henceforth kinda fucked things sooooo :/

[OnTheMark]

I think we have no reason to believe scum is in the hood beyond rand and it isnt info that is relevant to the town atm.

~B

We have no reason to believe scum is in the hood beyond rand(omidget)

[Purple Heart]

Math, I have a request.
Can you let the thread rest for like a bit (atleast 2-3 days) and give the thread space to breath?
Please don't think of this as "I don't like you go away" but moreso as "I want you to give a chance for other people to talk without interupting them."

Like I feel like this main arguement is happening mostly because there is literally nothing else better to talk about so you have to talk about something no matter what it is.
And like, there are still some people we would like to hear from, some people who haven't fully caught up yet, etc.
Argueing about Waffles, Pancakes, and French Toast is nice an all, but people have to

read

that when they catch up (well, the trick is they don't, but some people (mastina) are going to have to put themselves through that)

So like, just give some time for people to talk atleast.

Spoiler: Also if we want talk about breakfest foods

French Toast by far btw. If you use a good Challah to make it with it turns out soooooooooo fucking good. Like whenever I made it it would suddenly become like a fucking cake and it was just so tasty.
But I can't eat that now because Paleo Diet
Luckily, I got a Waffle Maker recently and been trying to perfect a paleo waffle mix. Progress is in fact being made to make that go towards perfection.
Sadly I tried the same mix with Pancakes and it just didn't turn out as good

[Purple Heart]

And yes I get scum can be in the hood
I want the hood composition to be known and public information

But 7-8 pages argueing about it is absurd.

[Reasonably Rational]

I think we have no reason to believe scum is in the hood beyond rand and it isnt info that is relevant to the town atm.

~B

We have no reason to believe scum is in the hood beyond rand(omidget)

Okay, i'm pretty damn sure they're just saying that there's no reason to think there are scum in that hood beyond rand(om) alignment distribution.

-Cerb

[OnTheMark]

Math, I have a request.
Can you let the thread rest for like a bit (atleast 2-3 days) and give the thread space to breath?
Please don't think of this as "I don't like you go away" but moreso as "I want you to give a chance for other people to talk without interupting them."

Like I feel like this main arguement is happening mostly because there is literally nothing else better to talk about so you have to talk about something no matter what it is.
And like, there are still some people we would like to hear from, some people who haven't fully caught up yet, etc.
Argueing about Waffles, Pancakes, and French Toast is nice an all, but people have to

read

that when they catch up (well, the trick is they don't, but some people (mastina) are going to have to put themselves through that)

So like, just give some time for people to talk atleast.

Spoiler: Also if we want talk about breakfest foods

French Toast by far btw. If you use a good Challah to make it with it turns out soooooooooo fucking good. Like whenever I made it it would suddenly become like a fucking cake and it was just so tasty.
But I can't eat that now because Paleo Diet
Luckily, I got a Waffle Maker recently and been trying to perfect a paleo waffle mix. Progress is in fact being made to make that go towards perfection.
Sadly I tried the same mix with Pancakes and it just didn't turn out as good

No.

Not when I have outed myself

Then I will not leave the thread for two to three days

Which then forces a replacement to come in.

[OnTheMark]

And yes I get scum can be in the hood
I want the hood composition to be known and public information

But 7-8 pages argueing about it is absurd.

Then don’t have people pretend to be in a hood they aren’t in and then not say they aren’t in the hood after like one page. And then ignore basic statistics.

[OnTheMark]

I think we have no reason to believe scum is in the hood beyond rand and it isnt info that is relevant to the town atm.

~B

We have no reason to believe scum is in the hood beyond rand(omidget)

Okay, i'm pretty damn sure they're just saying that there's no reason to think there are scum in that hood beyond rand(om) alignment distribution.

-Cerb

Then why the fuck did they just not say they aren’t in a good and instead argue the merits of what is beneficial for town like they could out it?

[Purple Heart]

Math, I have a request.
Can you let the thread rest for like a bit (atleast 2-3 days) and give the thread space to breath?
Please don't think of this as "I don't like you go away" but moreso as "I want you to give a chance for other people to talk without interupting them."

Like I feel like this main arguement is happening mostly because there is literally nothing else better to talk about so you have to talk about something no matter what it is.
And like, there are still some people we would like to hear from, some people who haven't fully caught up yet, etc.
Argueing about Waffles, Pancakes, and French Toast is nice an all, but people have to

read

that when they catch up (well, the trick is they don't, but some people (mastina) are going to have to put themselves through that)

So like, just give some time for people to talk atleast.

Spoiler: Also if we want talk about breakfest foods

French Toast by far btw. If you use a good Challah to make it with it turns out soooooooooo fucking good. Like whenever I made it it would suddenly become like a fucking cake and it was just so tasty.
But I can't eat that now because Paleo Diet
Luckily, I got a Waffle Maker recently and been trying to perfect a paleo waffle mix. Progress is in fact being made to make that go towards perfection.
Sadly I tried the same mix with Pancakes and it just didn't turn out as good

No.

Not when I have outed myself

Then I will not leave the thread for two to three days

Which then forces a replacement to come in.

I'm not asking you to leave the game and be replaced.
Post when Varsoon prods you again

All I am asking for you is to just take a break from the game and let the thread breathe for a bit.
Because right now not a lot of people are really talking and/or getting a chance to voice their opinions because you're essentially making the thread all about yourself and interupting people who try.
And that is an environment that induces A. Lots of spam B. Lots of frustration towards you and C. Less contribution.

That's all :/

[Reasonably Rational]

PH is making a valid point. I don't think you should go away, but I do think you should interact in real time less for a bit.

-Cerb

[OnTheMark]

Math, I have a request.
Can you let the thread rest for like a bit (atleast 2-3 days) and give the thread space to breath?
Please don't think of this as "I don't like you go away" but moreso as "I want you to give a chance for other people to talk without interupting them."

Like I feel like this main arguement is happening mostly because there is literally nothing else better to talk about so you have to talk about something no matter what it is.
And like, there are still some people we would like to hear from, some people who haven't fully caught up yet, etc.
Argueing about Waffles, Pancakes, and French Toast is nice an all, but people have to

read

that when they catch up (well, the trick is they don't, but some people (mastina) are going to have to put themselves through that)

So like, just give some time for people to talk atleast.

Spoiler: Also if we want talk about breakfest foods

French Toast by far btw. If you use a good Challah to make it with it turns out soooooooooo fucking good. Like whenever I made it it would suddenly become like a fucking cake and it was just so tasty.
But I can't eat that now because Paleo Diet
Luckily, I got a Waffle Maker recently and been trying to perfect a paleo waffle mix. Progress is in fact being made to make that go towards perfection.
Sadly I tried the same mix with Pancakes and it just didn't turn out as good

No.

Not when I have outed myself

Then I will not leave the thread for two to three days

Which then forces a replacement to come in.

I'm not asking you to leave the game and be replaced.
Post when Varsoon prods you again

All I am asking for you is to just take a break from the game and let the thread breathe for a bit.
Because right now not a lot of people are really talking and/or getting a chance to voice their opinions because you're essentially making the thread all about yourself and interupting people who try.
And that is an environment that induces A. Lots of spam B. Lots of frustration towards you and C. Less contribution.

That's all :/

When people post bullshit and no one stops it someone has to.

And no one has been stopping the bullshit since the damn opening of the day.

[Purple Heart]

That's literally what I did but shit happened and now I'm hydra'ing with

Alisae

.

~ Taly

[OnTheMark]

It should not take 7 pages to get simple stats across. That isn’t my fault.

The real time posting is to ensure we get scum.

If you’re sure that there is scum in the hood it was worth it.

The only reason it is that painful is because I have to keep fighting so truth wins.

If you can promise me we find the scum in that hood today I will go away til Monday night.

[OnTheMark]

If the thread is going to go on with
“I need mana because I am so goddamn important” instead of scumhunting

I will do everything in my power to ensure scumhunting happens.

[Varsoon]

Speaking of prods, SnarkySnowman has received their second prod.

[Bronya Zaychik]

If the thread is going to go on with
“I need mana because I am so goddamn important” instead of scumhunting

I will do everything in my power to ensure scumhunting happens.

You're actually stopping it. I can't see anyone's agenda if you constantly correct players.

[Skybird]

Man that was a lot of reading to get caught up.

@Skybird: Thanks for noticing the link to nothing, I noticed it too and just assumed they screwed up the post number and what they stated actually did happen somewhere(because I'm confident they wouldn't outright lie about the post they included in the analysis). I suppose it's possible that you've forgotten how I play in your long time away, and your lack of notes does explain the lack of followup, but that doesn't make those things stop being suspicious.

Also, what's the objective of your interaction with the case? Earlier you said you were happy being the lynch for today.

-Cerb

My objective was to show the case doesn't mean much and there was a lot of AtE in it. If I was unsuccessful, so be it. The reason I said I'm OK being today's lynch is because I'm town. Unfortunately it seems that most people are reading me as scum and I don't know how to obvtown. My concern is making it to late game and causing town to lose because people have doubts about my alignment. I do have to say it really sucks when someone decides before the game even starts that I am scum though.

Most people are not reading you as scum. The only people who are scumreading you are a grand total of two people, OntheMark and ShiningDreamers, who happen to be very vocal. Don't let them bully you. We will not stand for that. You have our full backing.

~Kiana

Thanks, I appreciate that. But it does feel like you are buddying me.

Being an asset involves you being helpful and transparent. You are currently not helpful and, maybe I wouldn't say not-transparent, but the way you're presenting your ideas is obfuscated.

this is silly. stop. i've seen enough games with Titus and Math together to be tired of this, and you aren't even Titus.
badgering a townread to play differently is a waste of time. this is taking up so many pages.
it's been

constant

. both Kiana and Titus replying to the same things, and so many posts from Mark because they reply back.

Furthermore Random + Titus/Kiana + Skybird + RR becomes a potential team as anytime I suggested any of them they call me a bad player. If you seriously believe that Mastina is town help me help her by giving everyone what they need to work with.

After this post I definitely put Chara in the town pile. Scum would want the bickering to go on, not try and stop it.

so far; Skybird's scumread on me is my favourite. i didn't think anyone would actually be bold enough to call that a scum gambit, as though i

actually

believed someone would go along with that.

I did not read it as a joke.

U

seemed pretty serious to me. Did

u

not see the responses? Of course you did.

U

commented on them.

Emphasis mine.

I was phone posting and got tired of writing out you.

@OTM: Again, pretty sure that the colorless bit just means that the mechanism by which the hood is created requires no colored mana...

@Purple Heart: No, they're still right that it's SIGNIFICANTLY more likely than not that there is scum in that hood, given that the alignment of those in the hood was functionally randomly selected, and if there is scum in the hood, they already know the membership, which means it's an area where scum likely have an advantage over town in terms of knowledge, which should be mitigated if at all possible by sharing the membership of the hood.

-Cerb

OK, I'm going to out the hood. The hood contains me, Shining Dreamers and Iconeum. I feel like Iconeum has been buddying me in the hood. Mastina has been posting stuff and it looks like she is scum hunting. But I have not been posting much in there due to some of the things she has said to me.