VARSOON VARIETY HOUR : GAME SCRAPPED

[Iconeum]

I'm disliking the read evolution of Shining D on myself. It started with a strong townread before I even posted, and switched to scumread once I started posting. There is no indication that anything changed, and I don't believe I've done anything spectacular to make them townreading me again yet I'm way up on the readlist they posted.

There's also very little effort from Shining D in the PT to sort Sky and myself out.

VOTE: shining D

[Skybird]

Mastina has been posting stuff and it looks like she is scum hunting. But I have not been posting much in there due to some of the things she has said to me.

What ist his "scumhunting" you speak of and what are said "things" she said that caused you to not post in the hood.

She is commenting on posts from the game thread and talking about whether it's a scummy thing to do or towny thing.

No matter what I post in there, she calls it scum posting. I had hoped to have a smaller place to discuss reads but that's not going to happen this game apparently.

One more comment on the hood. The opening post states current members. I have a feeling that means this is not a permanent PT for anyone and members will probably change on D2.

[Shining Dreamers]

And I mean
As appealing as waiting for you to catch up is.
I don't feel like seeing multiple scumclaims from you over and over insisting that MC is scum with how you've been pushing them currently.

Yeah, you are scum trying to quicklynch us. Town you would at least wait for us to provide more info. Even if you scumread us, you'd let us give info you could use to catch our potential buddies. That's why I believe you are only scum trying to remove us early.

[Chara]

sick, will be here tonight hopefully.

[Maid Cafe]

I liked the Micc wagon more then this one not going to lie.

~B

[Reasonably Rational]

That icon vote is l-2 for Shining, can we please not hammer that before the aforementioned things happen.

-Cerb

[Purple Heart]

Cerb

So, you're not voting until you're certain of scum or until it's needed to push the game along...?

Has any discussion recently changed your reads at all?

VOTE: Micc
ok give me your other reads.

Like, is Titus scum?

...
What the fresh hell, you'd better have developed this read more

There is also 1440

These questions still stand.

Gamma

[...] What are your reads, and where is your vote if you think

baku and munna

is worth a wagon?

~ Taly

P-Edit
((Also, as the corresponding head to Alisae; I agree with the readslist in 2221))

Reads are me suspecting Ico Sky B&M and sorta suspecting MC + Dunn, along with Micc needing review. Chara feels like town, as does OTM Bronya Creature A50 and I guess some others, kinda feeling you guys as town though I don't like Ali continually taking my posts and sarcastically discrediting them
As for baku I feel like they're scum based on the fact I recall Shiro being someone who prefers town along with their content not impressing me
As for voting them I would rather vote Iconeum for now but I'm going to still keep an eye on that hydra

To be honest,

Alisae

and I may have very similar reads; but I'm not as confident at the moment.

If you're not content with the

Shining Dreamers

wagon, then where's your case on

Iconeum

?

I'm disliking the read evolution of Shining D on myself. It started with a strong townread before I even posted, and switched to scumread once I started posting. There is no indication that anything changed, and I don't believe I've done anything spectacular to make them townreading me again yet I'm way up on the readlist they posted.

There's also very little effort from Shining D in the PT to sort Sky and myself out.

VOTE: shining D

OK, I'm going to out the hood. The hood contains me, Shining Dreamers and Iconeum. I feel like Iconeum has been buddying me in the hood. Mastina has been posting stuff and it looks like she is scum hunting. But I have not been posting much in there due to some of the things she has said to me.

Mastina has been posting stuff and it looks like she is scum hunting. But I have not been posting much in there due to some of the things she has said to me.

What ist his "scumhunting" you speak of and what are said "things" she said that caused you to not post in the hood.

She is commenting on posts from the game thread and talking about whether it's a scummy thing to do or towny thing.

No matter what I post in there, she calls it scum posting. I had hoped to have a smaller place to discuss reads but that's not going to happen this game apparently.

One more comment on the hood. The opening post states current members. I have a feeling that means this is not a permanent PT for anyone and members will probably change on D2.

What I'm getting from this is:

((Correct me if I'm wrong))

Shining Dreamers

,

Iconeum

, and

Skybird

are in a confirmed hood.
-

Shining Dreamers

has targeted and scumread

Skybird

with little in-thread information.
- There is also not much discussion about sorting each other aside from:

But I have not been posting much in there due to some of the things she has said to me.

This? Do you think

Shining Dreamers

gauging for reactions by tunneling you?
-

Iconeum

has consistently townread Skybird 262, but now feels that

Shining Dreamers'

reactions are unnatural in relation to himself.

Skybird

, can you elaborate on

Iconeum

buddying you?

Iconeum

, is your vote and push on

Shining Dreamers

solely because of her read progression with you?

I can't see

Shining Dreamers'

town motivation for doing this; unless they're baiting someone to react.

I feel a bit more confident in

Skybird

town. I don't see scum outing a hood like this, and I don't see the reason of the scumreads on her. Jury is still out on

Iconeum

.

And I mean
As appealing as waiting for you to catch up is.
I don't feel like seeing multiple scumclaims from you over and over insisting that MC is scum with how you've been pushing them currently.

Yeah, you are scum trying to quicklynch us. Town you would at least wait for us to provide more info. Even if you scumread us, you'd let us give info you could use to catch our potential buddies. That's why I believe you are only scum trying to remove us early.

1)

You're basing a scumread on

Alisae

off of meta, but you're also disregarding the other head in this slot, and I know your read on me cannot be meta, because I don't recall playing with you before.

So the logic of us being scum because of how you perceive

Alisae's

meta is invalid.

2)

Instead of talking about us quicklynching you, and telling us we should be lynched while your vote is parked on

Skybird

; how about you discuss the case raised on you? Also, where did your scumread on

Skybird

come from in the first place?

That icon vote is l-2 for Shining, can we please not hammer that before the aforementioned things happen.

-Cerb

I want

Mastina

,

Micc

, and a few others to catch up and post before a lynch happens.

~ Taly

[Iconeum]

Buddying Sky in PT is a big word for it. I tried to allign all of our reads and votes to see what would happen.
What I said about Shining D read evolution is my contribution to the case on the slot.

I suppose Sky could confirm what i'm saying about said evolution because that information is not available here...

[Reasonably Rational]

Oh, I'm also not particularly impressed with Icons vote on mastina. Do nothing, be 50 pages behind, then show up and jump on the wagon that's at l-3 with very little commentary.

@Taly: I'm almost certain that there is nothing that could happen on D1 that will make me certain someone is scum.

-Cerb

[Reasonably Rational]

Hey Alisae, can you do a better job of explaining SDs scumminess than just claiming they're "open wolfing"?

-Cerb

[Maid Cafe]

Generally, I just don't see what Mastina's agenda is here as scum?
Just to wall so much throughout a catch up that people aren't willing to lynch her?

Like she definitely won't get me dead. And spew clearing me isn't the best idea either since people may just get naturally paranoid of me if the scum team decides that other people are a larger threat then I am. (4 slots potentially may be seen as more threatening then me which is a lot)
Idk I am not really sure what Mastina would be doing here as scum.

~B

[Maid Cafe]

Although Mastina is voting Skybird now which I didn't notice.
Hm

~B

[OnTheMark]

@Taly

You forgot that a town neighborizer that makes a different hood also exists. Making the odds of Shining Dreamers, Skybird, or Ico scum damn near 100 percent.

Yeah yeah I am hopping out of the thread now just making sure me being quiet doesn’t fuck us over. And I didn’t claim my informedness just to have it forgotten.

[Bronya Zaychik]

A Enchantment Spell has been cast!!
Current Spells in play: (Champion of the Parish, Crusade) (Elemental) (Mother of Runes)

Crusade
Enchantment
ENCHANTMENT SPELLS MAY BE CAST DURING ANY PHASE. This spell costs two white mana to cast.
Enchantment spells have public effects and stay in effect until removed from the game. Any time a White Creature votes for a player, an extra vote is added. Finally, I understand. Home isn't where you rest. It's what you fight for.

Interesting. So whoever controls the champion now has 3 votes. And if they play at least one more creature, they'll have 4 votes, or 6 votes if the creature they play can vote.

Tis a lot of votes.

-Cerb

its not a Creature so its only 2 for now but if Micc gives the person who I think controls this a Creature it'll be 3 and it'll get pretty big pretty quickly.

They have their own vote as well, so 2 from the champion, +1 from themselves. And if they play one more creature, the champion will go up to 2 natively, +1 from crusade, plus their own. And if the creature can vote, the creature will add a minimum of 2 more votes, so that would be 6.

On the plus side, this is *probably* a town slot's set of stuff, unless it's difficult for them to gain mana, since otherwise generating 2+votes out of nowhere is a good way to force a lynch on someone as scum.

-Cerb

It's definitely a town set. Putting its cards on the table allows town to be aware of its presence and limits the ability to zerg a lynch.

Something bothers me about Mark's "counterclaim" of the neighborhood. If Mark is aware of a town neighborizer and thinks that's a CC, why did he ever unvote SD?

~Titus

[Gamma Emerald]

Mastina chances are we lynch you before you get fully caught up.

Don't do this

I am in agreement here, I feel like it's better to let mastina catch up before lynching her in case she is town

[Bronya Zaychik]

@Taly

You forgot that a town neighborizer that makes a different hood also exists. Making the odds of Shining Dreamers, Skybird, or Ico scum damn near 100 percent.

Yeah yeah I am hopping out of the thread now just making sure me being quiet doesn’t fuck us over. And I didn’t claim my informedness just to have it forgotten.

Varsoon loves to punish metagaming, so that's inaccurate.

[OnTheMark]

@Titus/Kiana
Because the odds of scum in the hood is the problem, not mastina/yume.
Based on their claim it is color based.
If mastina claimed to create it I would agree but that’s not the claim.

Jekdkeiwndn djskekeosnsj
*pops out of thread and goes to work before being accused of taking it over again*

[Gamma Emerald]

2281: My case on Ico is essentially "his reactions and scumhunting don't feel genuine". I don't want to have to fetch quote but if you need them I will. Though I'll keep those hood interactions in mind.

[OnTheMark]

And I doubt that Creature set is town.

Okay for realz leaving now sorry.

[Bronya Zaychik]

Yeah, we're bolting on this SD wagon. We don't think it's pushed by any wolves but we both have the creeps. I'm concerned because my scumreads aren't attempting a counterpush or bussing. Kiana just gets a bad gut feeling.

UNVOTE: SD

[Maid Cafe]

I mean I am blatantly setting up to counter wagon.

~B

[SnarkySnowman]

Catching up, I'm at 70ish

[OnTheMark]

Yeah, we're bolting on this SD wagon. We don't think it's pushed by any wolves but we both have the creeps. I'm concerned because my scumreads aren't attempting a counterpush or bussing. Kiana just gets a bad gut feeling.

UNVOTE: SD

Yay! Heat mapping!

Please heat map Skybird and Ico pre and post hood claim.

[Maid Cafe]

Just vote Micc and call it a day.

~B

[Venmar]

wow i only have to catch up on 2 pages this game? we're evolving guys

Cerb

So, you're not voting until you're certain of scum or until it's needed to push the game along...?

i think what you meant to ask if why cerb doesn't talk about his scumreads period.