VARSOON VARIETY HOUR : GAME SCRAPPED

[Reasonably Rational]

Talk to me about your mastina scum read, Creature.

Why?

-Cerb

[Creature]

mastina flowchart.

[Creature]

I expected town!mastina to be a mess rn.

[Reasonably Rational]

mastina flowchart.

I did not expect this answer. Can you link me to it? I haven't looked at it in forever.

So you think mastina is too certain and orderly with where she's at and what she's doing right now to be town? Is that taking into account how far back in the day she is in her catchup?

-Cerb

[Creature]

No, not saying mastina is being certain and orderly. I mean mastina's lacking the mess.

[Venmar]

and generally seem to be doing your own thing,

i take this as a compliment because it's true

to be fair, i don't really think anyone has much of an influence on the game state, to be completely honest. most people seem to be trying to do their own thing. there isn't much of a direction right now in what we're doing and there's a lot more noise than action and content right now.

^ we should work on fixing that and i think you (cerb) providing more concrete scumreads or actually pushing someone might be a step in the right direction

[Venmar]

also "irrelevant" isn't really a read. it might mean "null" in your eyes or something, idk, but a player can be town or scum and irrelevant at the same time.

[Reasonably Rational]

No, not saying mastina is being certain and orderly. I mean mastina's lacking the mess.

Hmm. I don't really understand then.

and generally seem to be doing your own thing,

i take this as a compliment because it's true

to be fair, i don't really think anyone has much of an influence on the game state, to be completely honest. most people seem to be trying to do their own thing. there isn't much of a direction right now in what we're doing and there's a lot more noise than action and content right now.

^ we should work on fixing that and i think you (cerb) providing more concrete scumreads or actually pushing someone might be a step in the right direction

When I provide concrete scumreads or push someone that person will die(okay, maybe not, but I will certainly try). Unfortunately, as I said, it really doesn't work to do that on D1. Hell, usually I don't even really gather sufficient data until D3+(which is probably part of why mastina said we shouldn't be lynched until then, because at that point everything we're doing should come to fruition and we should have a shortlist of scumspects remaining).

You're right that the thread is noise:signal ratio signal is pretty bad in the thread right now.

-Cerb

pedit: it means what you're saying has no relevance to my read on any part of the game state, including peoples alignments, including your own, because what you've said so far doesn't firmly give me a read on you.

[Almost50]

I believed he meant he disagreed with the idea of Micc being genuine, but I wasn't certain.

If we're going to turn this thread into "talk about anything but the actual game" then I will say this sentence itself is am oxymoron, because "belief" actually implies confidence, so you should've said "I

thought

he way saying so and so but wasn't certain".

Like, when someone declares their belief in God they're not saying they think He exists but are not certain, but rather that they have faith and are confident God does exist.

[Venmar]

i think creature is trying to say that mastin would be a mess/all over the place right now as town, but is instead playing carefully and deliberately; the super slow catchup being an example of that. i definitely agree with creature too

When I provide concrete scumreads or push someone that person will die(okay, maybe not, but I will certainly try). Unfortunately, as I said, it really doesn't work to do that on D1. Hell, usually I don't even really gather sufficient data until D3+(which is probably part of why mastina said we shouldn't be lynched until then, because at that point everything we're doing should come to fruition and we should have a shortlist of scumspects remaining).

i hope you understand that stuff like this to me makes me read most of your posts as you constantly copping out. you gotta work with me man.

[Reasonably Rational]

I believed he meant he disagreed with the idea of Micc being genuine, but I wasn't certain.

If we're going to turn this thread into "talk about anything but the actual game" then I will say this sentence itself is am oxymoron, because "belief" actually implies confidence, so you should've said "I

thought

he way saying so and so but wasn't certain".

Like, when someone declares their belief in God they're not saying they think He exists but are not certain, but rather that they have faith and are confident God does exist.

Touche.

-Cerb

[Gamma Emerald]

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@Mark,

Kiana townreads your frustration. I think it's self aggrandizing frustration so you don't have to put in the work to clarify your thoughts so either a) you can blame others for not listening or b) you can hide behind your obtuseness as scum. You do this repeatedly on MS game after game and wonder why no one listens. You don't take the time to listen to each person's goal in the thread and think more words solves the problem.

I would have given up on you ages ago but Kiana really thinks you're town. (I think this is the Chara question you want answered.)

I still have not seen you attempt a readwall like I requested.

You want me to engage your Skybird thoughts but all your theories are gibberish because they are not concise. My request is my ability to try and engage you.

Honestly I'm kinda with this, it's not scummy yet from OTM but he was making such a big stink about the readwall request when it was imo really simple

[Gamma Emerald]

yeah, alisae is town

am i the only one that thinks 1515 and 1516 by tibor is mostly noise/fluff?

Tbh I'm tempted to just use the Elli tell for Brass and move on.

i am interested in these services that you may have to offer

The 2012 Elli tell is "People who are active in al games but one is scum in said game."
Brasshearld is alive in games and is posting in those games but is not posting in this game.

Now that I have the context you are aware brass was sick right? Are you seriously going to say that because he was sick he is scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

Hey just an update that brass isn't feeling to good and might replace out. In the meantime does anyone want me to comment on anything?
~Lumia

rand wolf replace the fuck out
I understand I understand :3

And I'll have you know brass doesn't do this

[OnTheMark]

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@Mark,

Kiana townreads your frustration. I think it's self aggrandizing frustration so you don't have to put in the work to clarify your thoughts so either a) you can blame others for not listening or b) you can hide behind your obtuseness as scum. You do this repeatedly on MS game after game and wonder why no one listens. You don't take the time to listen to each person's goal in the thread and think more words solves the problem.

I would have given up on you ages ago but Kiana really thinks you're town. (I think this is the Chara question you want answered.)

I still have not seen you attempt a readwall like I requested.

You want me to engage your Skybird thoughts but all your theories are gibberish because they are not concise. My request is my ability to try and engage you.

Honestly I'm kinda with this, it's not scummy yet from OTM but he was making such a big stink about the readwall request when it was imo really simple

It’s simple TO YOU.

If I said for you to program an A* algorithm in C# have it spit out the lowest cost grid in less than a second given a set of sample grids and to have the results spit out in less than a second and have the grid be a variable command prompt along with variable weights.

And have you a day to program this task and no copy paste and no pathing libraries.

To ME that is simple. To most everyone here they would say it isn’t.

To me a readwall is insanely difficult because I have too many theories. When the game narrows this will be simpler.

[Purple Heart]

Are we doing Micc?
VOTE: Micc
Because this works too.

[Purple Heart]

Look
Here is my stance on this
Are we doing Micc or mastina?
I am okay with either one imo

[Purple Heart]

And I mean
As appealing as waiting for you to catch up is.
I don't feel like seeing multiple scumclaims from you over and over insisting that MC is scum with how you've been pushing them currently.

Yeah, you are scum trying to quicklynch us. Town you would at least wait for us to provide more info. Even if you scumread us, you'd let us give info you could use to catch our potential buddies. That's why I believe you are only scum trying to remove us early.

w0w what an agenda

[Purple Heart]

Hey Alisae, can you do a better job of explaining SDs scumminess than just claiming they're "open wolfing"?

-Cerb

Later

[Venmar]

Look
Here is my stance on this
Are we doing Micc or mastina?
I am okay with either one imo

mastin

[Purple Heart]

Generally, I just don't see what Mastina's agenda is here as scum?
Just to wall so much throughout a catch up that people aren't willing to lynch her?

Like she definitely won't get me dead. And spew clearing me isn't the best idea either since people may just get naturally paranoid of me if the scum team decides that other people are a larger threat then I am. (4 slots potentially may be seen as more threatening then me which is a lot)
Idk I am not really sure what Mastina would be doing here as scum.

~B

um the way she's pushing you is unnatural and completely agenda based.

[OnTheMark]

Look
Here is my stance on this
Are we doing Micc or mastina?
I am okay with either one imo

Look
Here is my stance on this
Are we doing Skybird or RR?
I am okay with either one imo

[Purple Heart]

VOTE: OntheMark

I don't necessarily think he's scum but I see his predictable pattern. He might as well say, scum if you have more powers or influence than me. :/ I just am annoyed. I'll probably move this later.

We are thinking about returning to Micc. We both agree that can be scum.

PLEASE STOP

[Purple Heart]

maid cafe why have you only been pushing micc all game?

WOW
I HAVE NO IDEA
WHY WOULD TOWN BE ONLY PUSHING SCUM ALL GAME?
WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO DO THAT.

[Gamma Emerald]

Wait is OTM Mulch?
~Lumia

No.

There's only so many players who are mafiascum regulars, have been gone from playing on mafiascum for the last few (specifically, three) months, and who are frequent players on mafia universe that get nightkilled often there. Also that're rather fond of the theory behind the game. I can think of only one player fitting that criteria, and he's a player I have mislynched. (This is the safest way for me to not narrow his identity down. I'd do so considerably more when stating what happened after said mislynch.)

RR is obv towning tbh, they are asking the right questions and moving the game forwards.

None of which makes them town, it just makes them Reasonably Rational.

If mastin is still this far behind I'm not gonna argue we shouldn't lynching them until they catch up because it'll be forever