Mini 1993 - Earthbound Mafia: Giygas' Curse - GAME OVER

[Mathdino]

i'm literally playing a shooter right now i don't have time to wallpost

[InfernoBrafin]

Brafin

Didn't you just say D3 its very unlikely for there to be two scum?

[InfernoBrafin]

Brafin

Shooter LOL how ironic.

That being said, I'm pretty sure that was a scumslip.

[InfernoBrafin]

Brafin

Didn't you just say D3 its very unlikely for there to be two scum?

Ooh, is this a scumslip?

i'm literally playing a shooter right now i don't have time to wallpost

We don't care. Unless it's a real emergency, we're voting you.

[Mathdino]

Mhmm.

Tell us, Math, why that doesn't make sense.

Okay here.

You're confirmed town, and Marangal is close to conftown by way of townslip.

If I have a partner, it's one of the following:
the worst
Beefster
Not_Mafia

the worst is going to have a result on Beefster. If Beefster is conftown, I'm planning on lynching N_M. If Beefster is NOT conftown, we lynch him and you can have me checked all you want.

So if you want to lynch me today rather than my hypothetical scumbuddy, you better have a damn good case on why it's me/the worst.

[Mathdino]

Scumslips don't happen. I always act as if the worst case scenario is happening (and I'm on record for this in a bunch of games). I considered Kthx as a busplay but his townflip makes me reasonably certain there's either 2 scum, or Beefster is literally the last scum.

[Mathdino]

The point here is that in a situation where you have 2 results on who DIDN'T perform the nightkill, it's absolutely ridiculous to lynch someone who's essentially confirmed not to have performed the kill.

We know for CERTAIN that there's either a strongman, or the scumteam is literally me/Beefster (which would explain both the Icon/mastina kills).

[InfernoBrafin]

Inferno:

So this all revolves around the idea tat Beefster has to be conftown? That's mighty convenient.

p-edit: Except that confrims nothing, becasue YOU could be the strongman and be partners with N_M.
There are ways for you to be scum that you are not giving.

[Mathdino]

I have a 100% success rate on reading Almost50, and bussing him from basically the point where he replaced in would be horrible play, especially when I could've easily lynched mastina with him.

Instead I lynched two scum in a row while there was enough pushback to reasonably lynch elsewhere, while taking a deal to be autolynched if I was alive and not cleared by LyLo.

Consider that 4 scum could immediately win the game by lynching two town in a row on that double day.

[InfernoBrafin]

Mhmm.

Tell us, Math, why that doesn't make sense.

Okay here.

You're confirmed town, and Marangal is close to conftown by way of townslip.

If I have a partner, it's one of the following:
the worst
Beefster
Not_Mafia

the worst is going to have a result on Beefster. If Beefster is conftown, I'm planning on lynching N_M. If Beefster is NOT conftown, we lynch him and you can have me checked all you want.

So if you want to lynch me today rather than my hypothetical scumbuddy, you better have a damn good case on why it's

me/the worst.

Where did this come from? I thought we were townreading TW. iN fact , I KNOW we're townreading TW

Scumslips don't happen. I always act as if the worst case scenario is happening (and I'm on record for this in a bunch of games). I considered Kthx as a busplay but his townflip makes me reasonably certain there's

either 2 scum

, or

Beefster is literally the last scum

.

The point here is that in a situation where you have 2 results on who DIDN'T perform the nightkill, it's absolutely ridiculous to lynch someone who's essentially confirmed not to have performed the kill.

We know for CERTAIN that there's

either a strongman

, or the scumteam is literally

me/Beefster

(which would explain both the Icon/mastina kills).

Quite literally a contradiction. :p Not a fan of this.

[Mathdino]

Inferno:

So this all revolves around the idea tat Beefster has to be conftown? That's mighty convenient.

p-edit: Except that confrims nothing, becasue YOU could be the strongman and be partners with N_M.
There are ways for you to be scum that you are not giving.

I already told you that if Beefster is cleared, I'm lynching Not_Mafia anyway.

If Beefster is NOT cleared, we lynch Beefster for literally being confscum.

So who exactly is my partner, and why would you lynch me today when there's about to be a clear on me affirming that I didn't perform the kill?

[Mathdino]

I don't know what it's going to take to convince you guys how abjectly awful your play has been this game tbh. Like I literally followed that last newbie game just to watch the shitshow. I have basically never seen a situation where either of your reads was high enough above literally rolling the dice to follow them over mechanically correct plays.

So the question here is basically this: Are you willing to trust your own reads above literal investigations?

[Mathdino]

I'll say it again.
If Beefster is cleared, I will lynch Not_Mafia.
If Beefster is not cleared, I will lynch Beefster.

So why the fuck. Would you lynch me today.

[InfernoBrafin]

Brafin

A) Repeating yourself isn't helping. We can read.
B) Who got Acryon lynched?
C) If Beef is scum, he's scum. Obviously that does not stop you from being scum though as you said in 2431.
Or didn't say in 2340
But if there is two scum (like you say) then you can be one of them and your buddy can perform the nightkill, giving you an innocent.

[InfernoBrafin]

Inferno:

First off, Acryon was a traitor. So how, as scum, would you have known that he was a traitor?

Second, you've already tried to back off of your sacrifice lynch this game once, which BuJaber more or less shut you down on.

p-edit: Dude, I gamelynched on that game based on mechanics and logic. You just didn't see it because I lost the post because internet is stupid.
Plus, I literally took a crack at mechanically solving the game the day before in that game.
This is major AtP and also stupid shit that I am willing to lynch over, because no way this come from town.

p-edit:
Because something tells me that Beefster is not going to come back as conftown, and you know it.

[Mathdino]

Came from town when RadiantCowbells did it but the both of you were so far up your own asses about your reads being hot shit.

You didn't solve that game at all. I argued this in the dead thread. You were right for godawful reasons. You don't understand mechanics, lol.

[Momrangal]

Oh. My. God.

[InfernoBrafin]

Inferno:

And so you sheeped Brafin's flowchart because...

I didn't say I solved it. I said I took a whack at solving it. Big difference.

And knock the fricking AtP off. This is not coming from town at all and I can tell that it's being said with the intent of pissing me off.

If you're willing to die at LyLo, well, if we mislynch today, we'll lose outright, no matter if there are two scum or not. So I think it's time for town to cash in on that claim. If anyone should be policy lynched, it's you, becaue you've coasted on your claim literally all game, whcih has shown to be weaker and weaker as the game goes on, AND you've already tried to weasel out of that deal once.

[Momrangal]

IB needs to unvote now

[InfernoBrafin]

Why?

[Momrangal]

I understand where this thinking and paranoia is coming from but for the love of God stop

[Mathdino]

Because something tells me that Beefster is not going to come back as conftown, and you know it.

SO WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO LYNCH ME OVER BEEFSTER

Suppose I'm scum.

You will KNOW for 100% certain which of Beefster and Not_Mafia is my scumbuddy based on the worst's result. Either you trust his result (and I'm right) or you don't trust his result (and I'm scum with him).

The next night action plan if the game isn't fucking over by then is to have the worst clear yet another townie while I guard him. Ideally Not_Mafia can also clear someone. By tomorrow, the game is won.

[Momrangal]

Even if the team doesn't know traitor, traitor almost always knows the team. Furthermore he was the only one on A50 with mastin. He's a strong player and A50 would have been in any trouble if not for dino

[Momrangal]

It isn't even mechanics, the game scum is playing if Dino and 50 were together is just godly

[Mathdino]

again consider that had i pushed through 2 mislynches on that double day with my 3 scumbuddies and mastina AND literally any bad townie that was willing to sheep me

we could have immediately won right then and there

you literally think i'm scum for being right about A50