Mini 1993 - Earthbound Mafia: Giygas' Curse - GAME OVER

[InfernoBrafin]

Inferno

Because, and this is really simple, Math, is that the only way you would know how TW's result is going to come out is if you are scum.

We will not KNOW anything, because you could very well be scum that has setup a situation where you can try and convince town to mislynch based on bad evidence.
For example, N_M/Math could have some sort of way to block TW's result. Then you'll lynch based on the fact that he's not "conftown."

You can try to dissect this however you want, but there are always variables that you can "forget" to mention. Part of this is trust. And right now, I'm not trusting your claim.

[Mathdino]

how likely is it that the scumteam is just beefster/not_mafia here

one investigative
one protective
one investigation immune
one traitor

[Beefster]

I'll say it again.
If Beefster is cleared, I will lynch Not_Mafia.
If Beefster is not cleared, I will lynch Beefster.

So why the fuck. Would you lynch me today.

So in other words, I have no reason to wait for tw's result because I already know what it will be.

VOTE: Not_Mafia

[InfernoBrafin]

Yeah, but that only works if YOUR CLAIM IS NOT MADE UP, WHCICH I THINK IT IS!

then we could easily have

one investigative
one protective
one investigation immune
one traitor

and still have one of those two be town.

P-edit: Beefster, as much as I hate to admit it, you may not come back as conftown. Not because you aren't town, but because there's been some sort of block that prevents the confirm from occurring.

Another thing I am noticing is that every time Math gives us a "plan," the one link that we can get as little information as possible from town on is killed at night. Anyone else noticing that pattern?

[Beefster]

It's not.

[Mathdino]

Hey Marangal convince me it's not Beefster/the worst
Because if it is we're about to get snowed

[Momrangal]

I'm thinking NM/worst

[Mathdino]

OK but that situation also screws us because one of them just claims a guilty

[Momrangal]

And if it is, all the duckling has to do is fake a guilty to win

[Mathdino]

Like I kinda have to agree that it makes no sense for Beefster to jail you

[Momrangal]

The duck has been laying fairly low this whole time, too
Investigation aside, hes been fairly unmemorble and I don't remember any of his reactions with flipped scum

[Mathdino]

He needs to claim for this game to continue

[the worst]

I've gone quackers.
Got no result last night.

[the worst]

Weak cop ftr.
I get normal cop results if I target a member of the town.
If I target mafia I die

[Mathdino]

OHHHHHHH

Jesus christ I'm an idiot. Should've called that one.

VOTE: Beefster

Beefster jailed you and killed Kthx to nix the result.

[Mathdino]

Why did it matter whether or not people did night actions? You acted like you couldn't get a result on Bujaber; that was a primary reason I chose to lynch him over Beefster.

[Mathdino]

UNVOTE:

wait a second

[the worst]

Figured people with shit abilities were less likely to be scum, more likely not to get NK'd and made better town clears.

Specifically I tried to keep my NA list down to players I felt were likely to be town.

[the worst]

Just trying to decide whether scum would have seen me crumbing.

[Mathdino]

So here's the deal. This game has either 1 or 2 mafia remaining.

If there is 1 mafia remaining, it is confirmed to be Beefster.

Therefore if we lynch town today and the game isn't over by tomorrow, we autolynch Beefster. I think this is something we can all agree on.

So we should act as if there's 2 mafia remaining. Find all the possible scumteams and lynch once we've ruled out some of them.

If we assume Marangal townslipped earlier, scumteams available are:
Mathdino/TW (massive fakeclaim plan)
Mathdino/Beefster (Beefster jailkeeper, Mathdino anything)
Mathdino/Not_Mafia (Mathdino strongman, N_M roleblocker)
TW/Beefster (TW strongman, Beefster jailkeeper)
TW/Not_Mafia (TW strongman, N_M anything)
TW/IB (TW strongman, IB double-dayer)
Beefster/Not_Mafia (Beefster jailkeeper, N_M strongman)

[Mathdino]

Not_Mafia's result will narrow down a lot here.

[the worst]

My flavour is Picky btw

[the worst]

Remind me what Mom's slip was?

[Mathdino]

Mod already confirmed that scum can't kill and use an ability (I think) and if he was strongman, he has been doing the kills each night. N2, he couldn't have because he targeted me so he isn't strongman for sure

@Marangal:

Have you ever faked a townslip before?

[the worst]

I'll be less of a lazy ass at lunch I promise.

Assume a Mom/Beef scumteam for sake of argument.

Is there any night action so far which indicates that the same person both used their action AND killed?

Has anyone received a message from Mom?