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Post Post #2650 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:55 am

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In post 2645, Bronya Zaychik wrote:
In post 2643, OnTheMark wrote:My mana generation is hard, yes.
However ...<redacted> might count as mana gain.

Without hinting at <redacted> I can’t help your question.

So I would rather that not be asked.
Does your mana gain involve the stealing of votes or the removal of another player's votes?

Yes/No.

If you deal with programmable logic, you should not be having problems with these kinds of issues.

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No. But I could still flag as mana gain. I like literally don’t know how to help clarify this. I think that question is crap.

And I would really not want day to drag on simply for more questions.

I cannot explain why.
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Post Post #2651 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:57 am

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In post 2650, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 2645, Bronya Zaychik wrote:
In post 2643, OnTheMark wrote:My mana generation is hard, yes.
However ...<redacted> might count as mana gain.

Without hinting at <redacted> I can’t help your question.

So I would rather that not be asked.
Does your mana gain involve the stealing of votes or the removal of another player's votes?

Yes/No.

If you deal with programmable logic, you should not be having problems with these kinds of issues.

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No. But I could still flag as mana gain. I like literally don’t know how to help clarify this. I think that question is crap.

And I would really not want day to drag on simply for more questions.

I cannot explain why.
Great. If you can't explain why then, let the thread go. A slot can't be confirmed as town incorrectly. You said your piece but cannot dictate. Neither choice is bad, what's important is that Snarky makes one.

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Post Post #2652 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:59 am

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It is of course always Cerb’s choice but it is my responsibility to prevent misleading information from fueling mechanically driven players thoughts.
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Post Post #2653 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:03 am

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I have to go to work.
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Post Post #2654 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:18 am

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I don't actually understand how the statement(remember, they have to be guesses) "I guess there exists a role which gains mana by stealing or negating another slots vote." could accidentally be triggered by an ability that is not mana gained by those means.

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Post Post #2655 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:24 am

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In post 2548, Bronya Zaychik wrote:Trying asking if there are roles that can give mana to other players. Sounds easy enough.

How about giving cards? That sounds fun too.

What about hand nukes. Are they available in the game?

Your role since it doesn't apply to alignments is only a rather buffed Rolecop ability.

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Don't limit your thinking only to us asking questions related to things people say. We can guess literally anything we want about the setup, and be told if that guess is correct or incorrect. Given that Varsoon games are intricate little Rube Goldberg machines ... being able to figure out the setup can be a huge help. At least ... that has been the case in the past.

In post 2554, Purple Heart wrote:btw if anyone cares about how I differ from
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(I have regrets btw)

Um tbh I don't believe A50 had his vote stolen in the first place.
Like
out of all of the players in the player list
A50
gets his vote stolen.
(I don't think he has ever PROVED he got his vote stolen)
And then he magically gets it back.

Like
take a moment
to let it marinate in your head
that A50, NOT RR, NOT BEEBOY, NOT CHARA, NOT CREATURE
BUT A50
got his vote stolen.

Icon is also probs scum btw
(atleast 1 scum in mastina/icon)

Everytime I tell Taly Creature meta he yesmans me.
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Cerb already answered in a similar fashion to what I would have. See his post about our chosen usage of vote nullify in a prior game.

In post 2555, OnTheMark wrote:So let’s find the shortest path between me and some rose tinted glasses. Find me some damn good glasses for RR mine be broken.
I'm gonna give you the same challenge I always give people. Put your ego on the line. You are having your cake and eating too. You "accidentally" forgot to strike us out of your list of who can and cannot be lynched today. You claim you don't intend to push us today but continually make "jokes" and other comments to keep it fresh in everyone's mind that you believe we're scum. Put your proverbial money where your mouth is.

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Post Post #2656 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:30 am

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sorry abot not being around yesterday had family over unexpectedly
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Post Post #2657 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:32 am

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You’re both confusing the cause and results.

A person can gain things without being the cause of the action in question.

For example if someone gains mana when Varsoon posts a VC. They aren’t the CAUSE.

In other words I guess there is a role that gains mana when
Is different than I guess there is a role that gains mana by
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Post Post #2658 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:39 am

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In post 2061, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1223, baku and munna wrote:also chara is scum caught in a gambit
skybird is lynch bait and ico possibly is as well but i'm not sure yet
OK wow this is horrible, this feels calculated
that just isnt me as scum tho
In post 2073, OnTheMark wrote:Oh yeah or random.

Forgot Random was in the hood.

Until they put the fourth or we get a scum we never lynch outside it.
im not in the hood...
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Post Post #2659 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:48 am

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In post 2657, OnTheMark wrote:You’re both confusing the cause and results.

A person can gain things without being the cause of the action in question.

For example if someone gains mana when Varsoon posts a VC. They aren’t the CAUSE.

In other words I guess there is a role that gains mana when
Is different than I guess there is a role that gains mana by
Really? The difference between "by" and "when" was the "perfect phrasing" needed?

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Post Post #2660 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:49 am

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In post 2659, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 2657, OnTheMark wrote:You’re both confusing the cause and results.

A person can gain things without being the cause of the action in question.

For example if someone gains mana when Varsoon posts a VC. They aren’t the CAUSE.

In other words I guess there is a role that gains mana when
Is different than I guess there is a role that gains mana by
Really? The difference between "by" and "when" was the "perfect phrasing" needed?

-Cerb
That’s part of it. I can’t write it correctly while at work. It’s more if you’re going to insist on it I have to pull a Titus.
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Post Post #2661 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:54 am

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Hello people I am finally not that busy, what have I lost cause the chances of me reading alll these pages are <1%

Alternativly tell me who to ISO to get the best grip.

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Post Post #2662 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:57 am

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In post 2661, baku and munna wrote:Hello people I am finally not that busy, what have I lost cause the chances of me reading alll these pages are <1%

Alternativly tell me who to ISO to get the best grip.

~Shiro
omg hi shiro! I'm so happy to see you around finally! I hope everything is going well!

Eh.

Maid Cafe/Alisae/PH+some combination of myself/OTM/Bronya would probably give you an idea of the what's been going on? I think between Maid Cafe and Alisae/PH you'll get an idea of all the stuff we've been talking about, at the least.

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Post Post #2663 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:58 am

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Oh, Chara too! Reading Maid Cafe+Chara together will give you a good overview I think. I'd suggest adding Alisae in there too, but Alisae turne dinto a hydra with PH, and you can only read three people in ISO together.

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Post Post #2664 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:02 am

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You could also get the other head of your hydra to summarize for you, because that really seems like the most reasonable thing.

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Post Post #2665 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:28 am

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So, I was thinking.

I'm almost certain that color PT is for people who are W and W/X(short version being because Micc/Nancy Drew was not named as being part of that PT, and when Alisae/PH gave an elemental to someone, it was green aligned, meaning that of the two most likely color PT options, Green and White, White is the only reasonable option).

Which means that the Champion/Crusade are controlled by either Skybird or Icon.

Is it more likely that Skybird deliberately split her vote from her creature, or that Icon is piling as much pressure as he can on SD?

Do note this is all speculation.

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Post Post #2666 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:30 am

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In post 2649, Venmar wrote:
In post 2541, Reasonably Rational wrote:Serious question: is everyone having fun?

If you're not having fun, let's talk about it and figure out how to make this fun. I think Micc left because he wasn't having fun, and that sucks. :(
-Cerb
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I'm having fun.
That said, large games can be a huge undertaking and this one already has 100+ pages, so just keeping up with all of it on top of the mechanics I tend to put into a game can be overwhelming.
I want you all to know that I appreciate your dedication to the game. I know staying up to date with a game like this one can be difficult, so thanks for sticking with it.
im having fun. this is actually one of my favourite games in a little while and im happy to be playing it

that said everytime i go to work or go to sleep i wake up to 10+ pages, and now we're at 106 pages, and it's burning me out really fast

catching up on 10 pages again :/, and i work in like 30 mins
this is where im at rn
im just about keeping up but im burning out to much to post from trying to read all the pages
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Post Post #2667 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:30 am

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In post 2665, Reasonably Rational wrote:So, I was thinking.

I'm almost certain that color PT is for people who are W and W/X(short version being because Micc/Nancy Drew was not named as being part of that PT, and when Alisae/PH gave an elemental to someone, it was green aligned, meaning that of the two most likely color PT options, Green and White, White is the only reasonable option).

Which means that the Champion/Crusade are controlled by either Skybird or Icon.

Is it more likely that Skybird deliberately split her vote from her creature, or that Icon is piling as much pressure as he can on SD?

Do note this is all speculation.

-Cerb
What is gained from this speculation?

And I believe you are wrong for all that matters. Someone else I think is Champion/Crusade not saying who but I will say it isn’t me.
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Post Post #2668 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:31 am

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In post 2666, baku and munna wrote:
In post 2649, Venmar wrote:
In post 2541, Reasonably Rational wrote:Serious question: is everyone having fun?

If you're not having fun, let's talk about it and figure out how to make this fun. I think Micc left because he wasn't having fun, and that sucks. :(
-Cerb
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I'm having fun.
That said, large games can be a huge undertaking and this one already has 100+ pages, so just keeping up with all of it on top of the mechanics I tend to put into a game can be overwhelming.
I want you all to know that I appreciate your dedication to the game. I know staying up to date with a game like this one can be difficult, so thanks for sticking with it.
im having fun. this is actually one of my favourite games in a little while and im happy to be playing it

that said everytime i go to work or go to sleep i wake up to 10+ pages, and now we're at 106 pages, and it's burning me out really fast

catching up on 10 pages again :/, and i work in like 30 mins
this is where im at rn
im just about keeping up but im burning out to much to post from trying to read all the pages
Random, I'd like all your thoughts.

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Post Post #2669 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:32 am

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In post 2665, Reasonably Rational wrote:So, I was thinking.

I'm almost certain that color PT is for people who are W and W/X(short version being because Micc/Nancy Drew was not named as being part of that PT, and when Alisae/PH gave an elemental to someone, it was green aligned, meaning that of the two most likely color PT options, Green and White, White is the only reasonable option).

Which means that the Champion/Crusade are controlled by either Skybird or Icon.

Is it more likely that Skybird deliberately split her vote from her creature, or that Icon is piling as much pressure as he can on SD?

Do note this is all speculation.

-Cerb
Ask Varsoon if a neighborhood exists for White | Green.

Since you have to spend them on game mechanics questions anyway.

I mean, just ideas since you need them.

What are we waiting for now actually? I'm bored and we can end the day soonish please.
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Post Post #2670 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:32 am

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Post Post #2671 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:33 am

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In post 2667, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 2665, Reasonably Rational wrote:So, I was thinking.

I'm almost certain that color PT is for people who are W and W/X(short version being because Micc/Nancy Drew was not named as being part of that PT, and when Alisae/PH gave an elemental to someone, it was green aligned, meaning that of the two most likely color PT options, Green and White, White is the only reasonable option).

Which means that the Champion/Crusade are controlled by either Skybird or Icon.

Is it more likely that Skybird deliberately split her vote from her creature, or that Icon is piling as much pressure as he can on SD?

Do note this is all speculation.

-Cerb
What is gained from this speculation?

And I believe you are wrong for all that matters. Someone else I think is Champion/Crusade not saying who but I will say it isn’t me.
I've already expressed my opinions on the likely alignment of the owner of the Champion/Crusade.

Both Skybird and Icon are suspects.

Therefore, the gain should be obvious.

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Post Post #2672 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:34 am

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We are lock towning Skybird and have a mild scumlean on Icon for that matter.

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Post Post #2673 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:34 am

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In post 2669, Bronya Zaychik wrote:
In post 2665, Reasonably Rational wrote:So, I was thinking.

I'm almost certain that color PT is for people who are W and W/X(short version being because Micc/Nancy Drew was not named as being part of that PT, and when Alisae/PH gave an elemental to someone, it was green aligned, meaning that of the two most likely color PT options, Green and White, White is the only reasonable option).

Which means that the Champion/Crusade are controlled by either Skybird or Icon.

Is it more likely that Skybird deliberately split her vote from her creature, or that Icon is piling as much pressure as he can on SD?

Do note this is all speculation.

-Cerb
Ask Varsoon if a neighborhood exists for White | Green.

Since you have to spend them on game mechanics questions anyway.

I mean, just ideas since you need them.

What are we waiting for now actually? I'm bored and we can end the day soonish please.
Who are we ending the day lynching?

Can't rush to end the day without a consensus actually existing, and one doesn't.

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Post Post #2674 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:35 am

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In post 2668, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 2666, baku and munna wrote:
In post 2649, Venmar wrote:
In post 2541, Reasonably Rational wrote:Serious question: is everyone having fun?

If you're not having fun, let's talk about it and figure out how to make this fun. I think Micc left because he wasn't having fun, and that sucks. :(
-Cerb
In post 2545, Varsoon wrote:
I'm having fun.
That said, large games can be a huge undertaking and this one already has 100+ pages, so just keeping up with all of it on top of the mechanics I tend to put into a game can be overwhelming.
I want you all to know that I appreciate your dedication to the game. I know staying up to date with a game like this one can be difficult, so thanks for sticking with it.
im having fun. this is actually one of my favourite games in a little while and im happy to be playing it

that said everytime i go to work or go to sleep i wake up to 10+ pages, and now we're at 106 pages, and it's burning me out really fast

catching up on 10 pages again :/, and i work in like 30 mins
this is where im at rn
im just about keeping up but im burning out to much to post from trying to read all the pages
Random, I'd like all your thoughts.

-Cerb
sorry i'm really not good at that. i'm about to go and make myself dinner, i'll do my best after that. Any particular stuff you want to know would be hugely helpful (this goes to everyone)
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