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Post Post #2775 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:23 am

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“When everything hangs on a single moment, be sure you choose the right moment.”
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VOTECOUNT 1.21


Shining Dreamers (5):
Creature, [Champion of the Parish], Venmar, Iconeum
Gamma Emerald (3):
Maid Cafe, Almost50, Purple Heart
Skybird (1):
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baku and munna
Iconeum (1):
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baku and munna (1):
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Not Voting (7):
Reasonably Rational, SnarkySnowman, Dunnstral, Nancy Drew 39, Chara, Bronya Zaychik, Skybird
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Elemental, Mother of Runes

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:(expired on 2018-03-27 20:30:00)
Mother of Runes has Protection from Black.
Spells in play: (Champion of the Parish, Crusade) (Elemental) (Mother of Runes)

Spoiler: List of all Spells in play
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CREATURE SPELLS MAY BE CAST DURING ANY PHASE.
THIS SPELL COSTS one White mana to cast.
Creature spells have public effects and stay in effect until removed from the game.
This creature gains votes equal to the number of creatures you control.
This creature's total casting cost is equal to the number of creatures you control.

I stand for every cobbler, tamer, and fool in this town--and they stand for me.


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ENCHANTMENT SPELLS MAY BE CAST DURING ANY PHASE.
This spell costs two white mana to cast.
Enchantment spells have public effects and stay in effect until removed from the game.
Any time a White Creature votes for a player, an extra vote is added.

Finally, I understand. Home isn't where you rest.
It's what you fight for.


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Creature spells have public effects and stay in effect until removed from the game.
This Creature may vote.


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Creature SPELLS MAY BE CAST DURING ANY PHASE.
This spell costs one White mana to cast.
Creature spells have public effects and stay in effect until removed from the game.
When you cast this Spell, choose a color and target a Creature.
Until the end of the next Night Phase, that Creature is immune to Spells and effects of that color.
You may repeat this ability at the start of each Day phase that Mother of Runes is in play.
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Post Post #2776 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:26 am

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@Alisae/Taly that’s a towntell
If nancy was scum she’d have just asked her buddies.
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Post Post #2777 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:28 am

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yeah she dissapeared so she could ask her buddies what an appropriate response would be.
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Post Post #2778 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:28 am

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Or better yet just let the question go away completely.
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Post Post #2779 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:29 am

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In post 2762, Purple Heart wrote:
In post 2758, Gamma Emerald wrote: I only voted Iconeum halfway through, and I haven't seen a reason to leave
.____.


I starting to see what
Maid Cafe
and
Alisae
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Why haven't you replied to
Iconeum
? He's posted multiple times and you haven't engaged. I highly doubt, with 16 players other than yourself, and with this much to read in the game; that's your only scumread, or the only person worth pushing.
What did I miss of his?
- You also don't have anything to say about the read on you? I get that it's partially meta-based, but this gives me the impression that you're pretty alright with a wagon on you, which strikes me as anti-town.
Um I did respond by saying I didn't really have a good counter? Like on the surface it's a decent case but I myself feel like it's not accurate.
Also, I don't understand your
Micc
read progression through ISO.
The first mention I see, looking at your ISO, is that you townread
Micc
- And I'm not seeing a post where you talked to him prior to this, so can you link one?

You say he needs review not long after in
- you ask questions on a townread of his.
- you say his reads are convenient, but haven't really stated why.
- I can only assume this is you stating your dislike for a post that was 700 posts earlier, and you're speaking about it now when
Micc's
not really in the game at this point.

Your "look" onto him seems fruitless, and your other posts so far hasn't really added much of anything.
I never actually looked at Micc. The whole shift from townreading to scumreading came from in-process-viewing of events.
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Post Post #2780 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:29 am

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Nah...nancy is a good player from MU. Nancy would have delayed entrance til reading some sorta notes.

nancy is town.
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Post Post #2781 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:30 am

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In post 2680, Bronya Zaychik wrote:
Varsoon, I wish that our slot wins the game.
Is this a 3P claim? :P

FTR: I do NOT think there are any 3P in the game. I don't even understand what Cerb was going about when he brought up the possibility of a 3P than would prevent a Town win while alive, or where he got it from.

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Post Post #2782 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:31 am

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You are determined to derail me from my scumreads :/
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Post Post #2783 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:31 am

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No A50 that is a meme.
There is a difference.
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Post Post #2784 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:31 am

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In post 2768, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2611, SnarkySnowman wrote:A50 that's a bad lie detect for so many reasons.... Like it's a silly thing to lie about and doesn't mean a lot to me.....
However, it seems there are a couple of people who think otherwise. Like, I don't want to
tell
you what to do with your role, but I'm legit pissed at Ali for coming up with this shit.
I feel like Almost50 is a bit more indignant as town so this is probably town him? This is a newer tell based on newer meta and has not been proofed against older games.
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Post Post #2785 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:34 am

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In post 2782, Purple Heart wrote:You are determined to derail me from my scumreads :/
You’re determined to push my townreads.
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Post Post #2786 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:41 am

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In post 2784, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2768, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2611, SnarkySnowman wrote:A50 that's a bad lie detect for so many reasons.... Like it's a silly thing to lie about and doesn't mean a lot to me.....
However, it seems there are a couple of people who think otherwise. Like, I don't want to
tell
you what to do with your role, but I'm legit pissed at Ali for coming up with this shit.
I feel like Almost50 is a bit more indignant as town so this is probably town him? This is a newer tell based on newer meta and has not been proofed against older games.
Plus I am sketched out by how easily Alisae/Taly dropped the A50 attack when it was determined that the lie detect would resolve that. Seems like part of a master plan to buddy (or that thing I can’t say) with Cerb.
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Post Post #2787 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:43 am

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MathBlade ur scum aren't you.
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Post Post #2788 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:44 am

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That or its just a normal day in the ordinary life of MathBlade.
I am having a hard time trying to find the difference.
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Post Post #2789 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:53 am

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Eh
I'll worry about it if my scumreads start flipping red.
I think its more likely you're town tbh.
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Post Post #2790 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:05 pm

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Yes I am scum with 13 buddies! Congrats you figured it out. /sarcasm
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Post Post #2791 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:08 pm

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@A50: our win con is to remove the end. It is not to remove all threats. That means that if there were say a serial killer, if they were still alive when we removed the last member of the end, town would just win. Therefore any 3p that can't win with town would require some mechanism preventing town from winning upon removing the end from the game.

That makes me think it's unlikely that any antitown 3p are in the game.

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Post Post #2792 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:10 pm

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What happened?
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Post Post #2793 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:49 pm

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In post 2791, Reasonably Rational wrote:@A50: our win con is to remove the end. It is not to remove all threats. That means that if there were say a serial killer, if they were still alive when we removed the last member of the end, town would just win. Therefore any 3p that can't win with town would require some mechanism preventing town from winning upon removing the end from the game.

That makes me think it's unlikely that any antitown 3p are in the game.

-Cerb
Oh, maybe I misinterpreted what you said ... again. I thought you were suggesting there might be a 3P that -while alive- DOES prevent the town from winning.

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Post Post #2794 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:54 pm

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In post 2793, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2791, Reasonably Rational wrote:@A50: our win con is to remove the end. It is not to remove all threats. That means that if there were say a serial killer, if they were still alive when we removed the last member of the end, town would just win. Therefore any 3p that can't win with town would require some mechanism preventing town from winning upon removing the end from the game.

That makes me think it's unlikely that any antitown 3p are in the game.

-Cerb
Oh, maybe I misinterpreted what you said ... again. I thought you were suggesting there might be a 3P that -while alive- DOES prevent the town from winning.
Nope, I was just saying that if an antitown 3p exists, they'd need to have some effect like that, not that it was likely that was the case.

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Post Post #2795 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 1:42 pm

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well im back from work?
In post 2739, Maid Cafe wrote:Ok to put my read really simply because I like to lie to myself and say I am studying while I procrastinate. And I am stupidly lazy atm.

Compare how Gamma plays in the average town game to his play here. Gamma is typically a super open player like Creature levels of open and it's just super apparent when you read his town games when nothing he posts makes sense because its all just his raw thoughts and it's just generally obvious town. And it's not like Gamma is at Mark's level where he can emulate that as either alignment.
Just generally i think his average town thought processes aren't really present and it feels a lot more like a player going through motions then anything else. Like his most recent post really just read as scum posting for the sake of it and I can pull up other posts but that is just the trend I get while reading his posts.

Like I feel like if you just read his ISO it's just really obvious there is just a closed nature to his posts that really is never there when he is town.
Sorry if this is poorly explained but that's generally why I think he is scum.

~B
i will note that i actually initially townread gamma for the completely opposite of this; i came in and i actually thought gamma's posting reminded me of his town play. i agree with your description of gamma's townplay and i think his posts like the ones above my #2237 fit the criteria of what i considered towngamma since a lot of them just look like he is dumping his thoughts into the thread.
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Post Post #2796 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 1:46 pm

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In post 2791, Reasonably Rational wrote:@A50: our win con is to remove the end. It is not to remove all threats. That means that if there were say a serial killer, if they were still alive when we removed the last member of the end, town would just win. Therefore any 3p that can't win with town would require some mechanism preventing town from winning upon removing the end from the game.

That makes me think it's unlikely that any antitown 3p are in the game.

-Cerb
Actually this is a good catch where the fuck is the shit you were pulling in RC's recent UPick Alisae? Why weren't you asking people about this? If it's somewhere between like page 60 and 80 then just point me to it, otherwise why didn't you do this?
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Post Post #2797 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 1:56 pm

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varsoon puts a sample role pm in his games
RC doesn't.
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Post Post #2798 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:05 pm

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VOTE: Purple Heart

I wanna see something.
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Post Post #2799 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:06 pm

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Oh and FYI I think those Creatures belong to scum.

The white ones.

Just a hunch.
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