NEWBIE 1858: MEDICAL MAFIA (fin)

[Espeonage]

ejj is about 5000% town for openly discussing motivations and not being afraid of reprimand while doing something they believe can help town. A man of my own heart.

Just for clarity's sake, when someone isn't afraid of dying that are often town because town are mechanically expendable.

[Espeonage]

VOTE: Unvote

We're moving out of RVS, and Rei feels like newbTown to me right now

Mature

[Espeonage]

VOTE: not_mafia

Suspect name is suspect. You're either mafia, or you're confusing town by making an unprompted alignment claim. Neither is good.
You're going to have to explain

how you dare

to have a funny username, or land yourself a place at the top of my scumlist.

This forced post is scummy
VOTE: 2Create

This vote based on RVS voting in a newbie game from a newbie slot is scummy.

[Espeonage]

Especially given the scrutiny 2C was under just before this.

[Bins]

Not_Mafia has been prodded.

VC after work.

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Shattiel

[Draynth]

VOTE: Shattiel

Got anything else to add or are you just going to sheep Espeonage?

[Draynth]

@shadd, actually, why were you scumreading soul?

"like your random voting style"

felt like it came from "i should be saying something here"

Agree with this

Why do I have a vote?
@Not_Mafia
I'm locktown and triggered

In what world are you locktown

why don't you look or guess? I'm locktown in my perspective at least.

Everyone is locktown from their own perspective. Saying so just makes me think you're scum being cheeky

I have played with all three of your se slots as well and they are all capable players.

............................I took a peek at not_maf's town meta.


P.E.R.F.E.C.T.

Hmm?

VOTE: not_mafia

Suspect name is suspect. You're either mafia, or you're confusing town by making an unprompted alignment claim. Neither is good.
You're going to have to explain

how you dare

to have a funny username, or land yourself a place at the top of my scumlist.

This forced post is scummy
VOTE: 2Create

This vote based on RVS voting in a newbie game from a newbie slot is scummy.

I felt the same way about this at the time

[Shattiel]

VOTE: not_mafia

Suspect name is suspect. You're either mafia, or you're confusing town by making an unprompted alignment claim. Neither is good.
You're going to have to explain

how you dare

to have a funny username, or land yourself a place at the top of my scumlist.

This forced post is scummy
VOTE: 2Create

This vote based on RVS voting in a newbie game from a newbie slot is scummy.

it's not the rvs why I voted him.
It's the "You're going to have to explain

how you dare

to have a funny username" believe it or not. Scum usually say bad jokes in their first few posts on d1.

Anyway my vote on him is pretty much semi rvs

[Shattiel]

Especially given the scrutiny 2C was under just before this.

I read in order and I reply in order. I don't read the whole game then went back to reply some stuffs so I haven't even gotten to the part what you're talking about at that time so nope.

[Shattiel]

Why do I have a vote?
@Not_Mafia
I'm locktown and triggered

In what world are you locktown

why don't you look or guess? I'm locktown in my perspective at least.

Everyone is locktown from their own perspective. Saying so just makes me think you're scum being cheeky

I have played with all three of your se slots as well and they are all capable players.

............................I took a peek at not_maf's town meta.


P.E.R.F.E.C.T.

share. Was just about to look for his meta

[ejjinami]

Initially feeling that Rei wasn't really OMGUS. The belief that it was a bad case seems justified, especially without a vote backing the reads. And the admission that 2create was avoiding vote cognitively seems iffy.

So what do you think about their conversation? Besides the “conscious/subconcious” stuff, do you think you can read anything else in there? And you said you’ve played with each of the SEs, anything bout them?

[Bins]

|Votecount

1.3

|

(2)

2Create

—

ejjinami, Rei

(2)

soulshade55r

—

schadd_, 2Create

(1)

Shattiel

—

Not_Mafia

(1)

schadd_

—

Espeonage

(1)

Not_Mafia

—

Shattiel

(2)

Not Voting

—

soulshade55r, Draynth

With

9

alive, it's

5

to lynch.

Day 1

will end in

(expired on 2018-03-30 19:48:00)

.

schadd_ and Rei have been prodded.

[ejjinami]

Why do I have a vote?
@Not_Mafia
I'm locktown and triggered

In what world are you locktown

why don't you look or guess? I'm locktown in my perspective at least.

Everyone is locktown from their own perspective. Saying so just makes me think you're scum being cheeky

Why the facepalm? I don’t really agree your “locktown” posts are AI, but his reaction to it isn’t that stupid. It didn't deserve a facepalm at least -_-

[ejjinami]

I have played with all three of your se slots as well and they are all capable players.

............................I took a peek at not_maf's town meta.


P.E.R.F.E.C.T.

share. Was just about to look for his meta

1000% shitter. You’ll have a hard time finding any kind of contributive post. Perhaps he says sth about the votes sometimes, like he wants to vote X, or won’t vote Y, but there isn’t much besides that.
And I didn’t really calculate it in according to how much time has passed, so I can possibly be wrong, but he seems to be even more inactive in here than in the games I’ve checked.
I didn’t go much further than his d1s/d2s, so theoretically he could be getting more active mid/late game, but considering his d1s, I really doubt that’s the case.

[ejjinami]

actually @2cre can you reword that? it's kinda hard to understand it. :/
why do you agree it's newbish? what pattern are you talking about? and what did you mean by confirmation bias?

Okay.
Upon a second pass I acknowledge the possibility of it being newbish. However, the scumread I already have seems to fit the pattern of Rei's posts.

Ehm, I know I already answered this post, but bear with me for a while longer. Could you write why did you agree your post was newbish? Like, you don’t really seem to be the type to make psychology/motivation based reads and excluding all psychology arguments, I don’t think I’d have a reason to call that post newbish… Can you elaborate?

[ejjinami]

And I think I’ll have some time tomorrow, so I’ll start reading isos and making reads.

Rn, I’d say my read list would look like that:

Rei

-

prob town

2cre

-

after skipping through his latest game, prob town…? Like, I seriously need to learn how to read his fluff. I could possibly change this read tomorrow.

Sha

-

there are buts, but gut town. Actually didn’t read her yet, but I don’t think it could change more than to a null.

Not_maf

-

as null as it can get. PL.

Shadd

-

mixed feelings about him :/ I liked his posts, but it’s not enough to make me townread him. And the post about my small emotive stuff could be easily written if he was maf and he knew I was town. I don't think he'd have to dive into my iso to actually see that

Dray

-

feels lazy. I got the feeling he’s reading the thread and not responding immediately (aka: luking), but I’m not sure if it’s AI. I sometimes do that too. I’ll try to focus on him tomorrow. Null fn

Esp

-

still waiting for the links he was supposed to paste. Feels more like he’s trying to be an IC than an actual player… honestly, I don’t really like that, it’ll only make it harder to read him. And it’s not like there are any actual newbies here, people most prob won’t get so easily caught. So I think he could start playing seriously if he’s not doing so rn. Null

Soul

-

he's either scum, or he has low wim. :/ Low wim is actually possible. as for now, I'd say he's a good PL.

As for now, if someone makes a case on them, I might ok with lynching everyone except rei, sha, 2cre and esp cuz of his IC status. But I'll write again tomorrow, after rechecking them, rn this is mostly gut anyways.

[ejjinami]

Ok, this game IS going extremely slow. As far as I see, it's normal for newb games to have around 30 pages of d1... We're past the half-day mark and there are only 8 pages till now...
Great job.

As I said, I'm going to try making reads that are not gut-based, but seriously, it's not motivating when there's nothing new to read. Dead games aren't fun regardless of alignment, so please just do sth. I wanted to try switching to this site exactly because I've heard there are less shitters here. and I've gotta say ya're not really impressing me. congrats. excluding my posts exactly nothing appeared for 22 hours. Just do sth.

[Bins]

2Create has been prodded.

[Draynth]

I appreciate ejj's frustration with me, I'll try be more active. FTR it's mostly a playstyle thing. I check the thread regularly and post when something pops out at me. Often I'd rather watch 2 people interact with each other than jump in and interrupt.

@Shcadd
Who do you think is town / scum at this point?

[soulshade55r]

Sorry I'm going to try and catch up tonight, ugh I've been so busy with my coursework Irl, probably should of waited before I got it all done, but I've finished it now so hopefully I can be more active

I'd appreciate it if everyone else is active aswell we need to start discussing or we might just end up lynching someone who is inactive or not discussing a lot I know I've been inactive right now but I think I can start being more active

[ejjinami]

I appreciate ejj's frustration with me, I'll try be more active. FTR it's mostly a playstyle thing. I check the thread regularly and post when something pops out at me. Often I'd rather watch 2 people interact with each other than jump in and interrupt.

@Shcadd
Who do you think is town / scum at this point?

cool, xD you know I wasn't 100% confidnet in the lurker read on you? I'm really confident lurking is the reason why soul keeps forgetting about the questions and you're a less intense version of him.

Sorry I'm going to try and catch up tonight, ugh I've been so busy with my coursework Irl, probably should of waited before I got it all done, but I've finished it now so hopefully I can be more active

I'd appreciate it if everyone else is active aswell we need to start discussing or we might just end up lynching someone who is inactive or not discussing a lot I know I've been inactive right now but I think I can start being more active

........lynch someone who is inactive = lynch basically anyone.
But yeah, it's cool.

[soulshade55r]

Okay here's my reads: (Sorry if they are bad)
Rei - I don't have a massive opinion on them, but they seem to be posting big sentences seem somewhat helpful, just they have been inactive and may get replaced out soon (

Null Read

)
ejjinami - They have been posting a lot and they seem very townie, I'm worried that they are trying to act "too" townie at this point, because it would be a really valid for them to pretend to have intentions maybe ejjinami is purposely seeming "Townie", this is all wild speculations (

Slight Town Read

)
Shattiel - They have been active, I've not noticed anything out of the ordinary from them, I honestly think they are town (

Town Read

)
2Create - Eh I'm not too sure, I do like how they wanted me to talk more that doesn't seem something scum would ask for normally (

Town Read

)
Not_Mafia - They haven't really posted anything useful other then be afk all game (

Slight Mafia Read

)
Shadd - Not enough posts to make a bases off there few posts seem more townie then Not_Mafias (

Null Read

)
Draynth - Nothing Importent to say here I can't really make a read of them as well because while they have been semi active I don't think there is enough content to go off (

Null Read

)
Espeonage - Too trusting of ejjinami They aren't "5000%" Town for asking about peoples past games, yes this is town motivated but I don't like how they don't have a slight suspicoion on ejjnami just because they seem town motivated other then that they are fine, I could see them in a possible team with ejj but I'm thinking ejji is more then likely town (

Null read

)


Sorry if this isn't too detailed I tried to explain my points but there aren't much posts to go off.

[ejjinami]

ejjinami - They have been posting a lot and they seem very townie, I'm worried that they are trying to act "too" townie at this point, because it would be a really valid for them to pretend to have intentions maybe ejjinami is purposely seeming "Townie", this is all wild speculations (

Slight Town Read

)

Espeonage - Too trusting of ejjinami They aren't "5000%" Town for asking about peoples past games, yes this is town motivated but I don't like how they don't have a slight suspicoion on ejjnami just because they seem town motivated other then that they are fine, I could see them in a possible team with ejj but I'm thinking ejji is more then likely town (

Null read

)

Why do you think I'm more likely town?

[ejjinami]

and actually, could you say sth about this:

Like your random voting style c:

I'm bad at starting up so I'm gonna just wait until something comes up.

[...]
Gives some pressure on someone which is good, It's not super scummy to be fair,

I haven't seen a lot of scum random vote.

But I wouldn't call it Townie so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It's kinda obvious the "like your random voting style" is just fluff and the later post is just "random stuff you thought up atm"... but why would you think scum don't random vote?
like, it kiiiiinda felt like you were thinking of yourself there. -_-