Sid Meier's Civilization 5 UPick Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Joey_]

WHAT THE FUCK GAMMA RETRACT THAT

[Gamma Emerald]

not unless pidgey apologizes

[Chara]

replace out

fuck off I'm not playing with you anymore

please retract this. i think you're town especially from how you've reacted here, you can just ignore pidgey.

[Chara]

i think you need to leave the thread for a while and cool off.
insult the play, not the players. etc.

[Gamma Emerald]

never mind the replace out

pidgey I still expect that apology btw

[Joey_]

YAS, now vote klazoum. Chara you didnt react to my post directed at you but i expect you to vote klazoum

[pidgey]

Im a horrible person for making a case

Ay dios mio!!

Pedit- if you are mafia, i dont know what you are lying about because i cant read ojr role pm. If you are town, and you are doing exactly what A50 dis, why the fuck would you pressure him if you did just what he did? What if he was like, a resource giver, giving resources to conf town? Who everyone knew was protected?

Your actions just dont hold up in my head as town.

Pedit- replace out if you want, ive literally said nothing to you.

You insulted me first
You said you were never playing with me ever again
Called me a piece of shit multiple times

I did nothing wrong except called you scum

[Gamma Emerald]

My real question is if he really watched him, or tried something else.
He says he went after A50 hard because he saw him visitting brass, but wouldnt it be the same thing he did? If he did that, and brass didnt die, why would he think it was scummy? And even so, he didnt really go "hard" on A50, he just kinda voted him once and then moved on to other things. He might have just been making it up on the go.

This is very important btw. A good enough reason to discredit him.

WHY DO YOU WANT TO DISCREDIT ME YOU PIECE OF SHIT????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
If you're town never play with me again, because you're absolutely a horrible person.
As for why I pushed A50, I was curious about his role because I figure it had to not be protective or investigative, plus I'd been nursing a scumread on him for meta reasons which I

can

talk about now.

Lol

Im done calling you names. Dont worry, if you are town or scum im never playing with you again.

Why would i want to discredit you? O i dunno, youve killed people in realanlife and punch woman in the face. Or maybe its a game we are rucking playing where you find liers. One of the two reasons

If you are town then im wrong, who gives a fuck? Literally no reason to say what you just did as any allignemnt

Like what did I say that doesn't make sense as either alignment? And just because we're playing a game of deception doesn't mean you should just aim to devalue everything I say.

[Chara]

YAS, now vote klazoum. Chara you didnt react to my post directed at you but i expect you to vote klazoum

i saw it, give me a second. short answer: i don't really agree. Klazam did explain why he thought Gamma was mechanically clear. no good reason for scum to target brass (nobody as far as i know has provided this) is a reason.

[pidgey]

Im leaving. Replace out if you want. Im not apoloizing to someone who literally keeps insulting me and was the first to black me off from playing games with.

Pedir- who the fuck devalued you? Im thinking younare scum. And im explaining why i would discredit your explanation from another point of view

[Joey_]

YAS, now vote klazoum. Chara you didnt react to my post directed at you but i expect you to vote klazoum

i saw it, give me a second. short answer: i don't really agree. Klazam did explain why he thought Gamma was mechanically clear. no good reason for scum to target brass (nobody as far as i know has provided this) is a reason.

Well, what about his incoherent behavior ?

[Gamma Emerald]

Im a horrible person for making a case

Ay dios mio!!

Pedit- if you are mafia, i dont know what you are lying about because i cant read ojr role pm. If you are town, and you are doing exactly what A50 dis, why the fuck would you pressure him if you did just what he did? What if he was like, a resource giver, giving resources to conf town? Who everyone knew was protected?

Your actions just dont hold up in my head as town.

Pedit- replace out if you want, ive literally said nothing to you.

You insulted me first
You said you were never playing with me ever again
Called me a piece of shit multiple times

I did nothing wrong except called you scum

You know what no, I'm done being fooled by you.
VOTE: pidgey
You're entire narrative is that I'm a religion spreader on the science mafia, so you need to specific what you think I'm lying about if you want me to respect your opinion at all because as I see it you're sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming "LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU". Either give a coherent argument or get lynched for bsing.
As for why I was getting pissy it was because I thought you were just nonsensical town and was trying to verbally smack some sense in you, but I can see that's not gonna happen so easily.

[Chara]

Its not true chara lmao, he doesn't want to be lynched first. I think ran is prob town and dan is idk, i townread-ish his early posts and i think hes different than when he was mafia but unsure here.

Klazoum is fencesitting because insteand of providing content to pursue his own agenda (not lynching gamma, lynching ran or kiana) He is commenting about information (that gamma is conftown) and he obviously isnt make a decent and genuine effort into conveying his pov (that gamma is conftown by mechanics, apparently). He is also dismissing the soft-guilty which is something scum is much more inclinded to do because they actually know what happened in the night, town dont so its easier for scum to dismiss possibilities that didnt happen. IMO its not coherent to comment (look at this last few posts) on someone that is apparently frustrating to him. Also, just tone wise i feel like hes not genuine so eh

if Gamma is town and Klazam is scum, i don't know if he does dismiss the soft-guilty so harshly. sure, scum knows what happened (sort of, it's multiball), but it's also a convenient way to get town Gamma lynched without any blame.
tonewise i don't know if i agree or not, i try to avoid looking at tone in reads (even though i do constantly) because it's an easy way to trip up when players have awkward tone.

why is Ran town?
sure, Klazam could have decided to whiteknight Gamma for the cred and then gotten too deep to dig himself out, i get that.

pedit: let me look again. i didn't find anything especially difficult to understand.

peditx2: no.

[brassherald]

Re: Elbirn's death, four options here:
1. it was a death because he protected Gamma and Gamma is scum;
2. He was killed by scum and Dunker or Varsoon was a vig shot
3. There's a third scum team.

[brassherald]

Re: Elbirn's death, four options here:
1. it was a death because he protected Gamma and Gamma is scum;
2. He was killed by scum and Dunker or Varsoon was a vig shot
3. There's a third scum team.

Forgot my fourth option, sorry.
4. Combination of two of the above three options.

[Gamma Emerald]

Im leaving. Replace out if you want. Im not apoloizing to someone who literally keeps insulting me and was the first to black me off from playing games with.

Pedir- who the fuck devalued you? Im thinking younare scum. And im explaining why i would discredit your explanation from another point of view

Like I'm sorry for getting lippy with you but you're logic is completely stupid. Let me go through all of the possible logics you can have.
Gamma isn't Russia: completely foolish, I crumbed in my first post, why would I crumb a role I'm not and risk CC?
Gamma is Russia, religion spreader, and science mafia: what the hell religion do you think I am? I know a fair bit of russian history, and they were very rural until the Communist Revolutions. So I can't be science mafia if my role is based on something before the Commmunist revolutions (which it is, Katherine the Great). Also, The Communist regime was pretty much atheist, so if I am Russia and science mafia I can't be religion spreader. So this whole logic will always have a hole in it.

[Chara]

Joey: i don't see what's incoherent? he says his reason 3174 again and said it before, too.

[Joey_]

Brass, please lead a wagon on either klazoum or gamma if he keep pushing on obvious town pokemon

@Chara : He contradicted himself in his last two posts

[Gamma Emerald]

What Joey is arguing is Klazam is posturing with his read on me.

[brassherald]

VOTE: Klazam

Let's do it.

[Joey_]

yassss

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm not gonna rest on pidgey until they explain their logic or back off because it's completely nonsensical and at this point it's rather scummy how much they're trying to push their bs.

[Chara]

Brass, please lead a wagon on either klazoum or gamma if he keep pushing on obvious town pokemon

@Chara : He contradicted himself in his last two posts

his last post looks like annoyed sarcasm.

pedit: better than Gamma but i really don't think the Klazam case holds water. the best argument for it is how he voted Kiana.

[Chara]

town: Joey_, pidgey, Gamma Emerald (scum Gamma doesn't do this. yes it's an emotional read, yes i know scum can get angry too.)
towny: BuJaber, Kokichi Oma, Nero Cain, Almost50
townlean: Titus, Joda

leftovers:
Kiana Kaslana/Klazam
marshy
Shaziro
ActionDan
ranmaru

PoE rules the world.

[Chara]

i might restructure "towny/townlean" section, and Almost i'll continue to be paranoid about despite this looking like town Almost. first tier isn't changing. the only one i might call scum in there is Gamma but i don't see this whole thing coming from scum him at all.