VARSOON VARIETY HOUR : GAME SCRAPPED

[Chara]

for the 1000th time. Stop misrepping me.

I am not angry.

Alisae is not angry.

STOP.

i didn't say you were.
i'm talking to Alisae. i didn't say e was angry either.

[Taly]

for the 1000th time. Stop misrepping me.

I am not angry.

Alisae is not angry.

STOP.

i didn't say you were.
i'm talking to Alisae. i didn't say e was angry either.

Oh sorry, I thought this was

Gamma

.

[Maid Cafe]

Can you guys get along?
I am siding with Cerb, I am starting to not care.

~B

[Taly]

Chara:

The hammer/xbox pic is a metaphor from

Alisae

, on why she's Town.

Alisae

would not be this frustrated as scum.

~~

I'm not upset with anyone. I want to play this game, and I hope nobody is taking any of this personally.

[Chara]

Can you guys get along?
I am siding with Cerb, I am starting to not care.

~B

:<

i'm going to take a break from this until Saturday. i still care, a lot, but this is dampening my mood. see you all soon.

pedit: i'm not taking anything personally, i just want everyone to remember this is a game.

[Maid Cafe]

What would Alisae do here as scum.
You keep saying what Alisae would not do as scum and that isn't what Chara wants to know and it isn't going to get them on the same page as you.

~B

[Chara]

it helps that i've been scum with Alisae where e got this upset about the game, as scum.
so yes, i really do need something else.

[Gamma Emerald]

For saying you wanted to engage with me you haven't address my actual reasonable response to you Taly

[Taly]

What would Alisae do here as scum.
You keep saying what Alisae would not do as scum and that isn't what Chara wants to know and it isn't going to get them on the same page as you.

~B

Don't trust

Nancy/Micc

slot, they didn't really do anything yet aside from being "Hi, what's this?"

Almost50

is still a question mark to me, but I townread him D1. Need to think on that more.

I'll review

Baku/Munna's

vote on

Gamma

soon, I haven't townread them yet.

Not a fan of majority of

Gamma's

responses so far.

For saying you wanted to engage with me you haven't address my actual reasonable response to you Taly

Quote it and I'll happily respond in hopefully a timely manner, likely with

Alisae's

input too.

[Gamma Emerald]

... I think massclaiming isn't good for this setup, because if we claim all our powers we basically show every single possible hole scum could slip through. I guess I'd be amenable to massclaiming for the previous one though since I don't see it being that bad even if we do return to it, since it will likely be a while if that's the case.

This specifically

[Reasonably Rational]

I've never replaced out of a game, and Varsoon assures me that I will enjoy the setup as a whole, even if things aren't as I expected.

Because of this, there is now a non-zero, rather than zero, percent chance of me staying in this game.

I'm still really unhappy and don't actually want to play right now, but we'll see.

-Cerb

[Maid Cafe]

I promise the 2 things, Alisae is town and we are always lynching scum today.

~B

[Taly]

... I think massclaiming isn't good for this setup, because if we claim all our powers we basically show every single possible hole scum could slip through. I guess I'd be amenable to massclaiming for the previous one though since I don't see it being that bad even if we do return to it, since it will likely be a while if that's the case.

This specifically

This is directed to everyone, too.

1)

Alisae

and I have talked, and said that MtG claims are much better than Undertale claims right now. Our MtG roles no longer apply in the game. So why not claim that at least? It gives perspective.

2)

Claims now may influence future claims pre and post flips. The information for town outweighs potential risks to individuals. At the very least, people know the direction and mindset of what people are doing.

3)

Our roles now are going to change. It's fully elaborated in the mechanics. There's no reason not to claim at some point, and withholding information BENEFITS scum because they have information that townies don't.

I've never replaced out of a game, and Varsoon assures me that I will enjoy the setup as a whole, even if things aren't as I expected.

Because of this, there is now a non-zero, rather than zero, percent chance of me staying in this game.

I'm still really unhappy and don't actually want to play right now, but we'll see.

-Cerb

Please talk when you're feeling better. I like playing with you, but I respect your feelings and decision.

~~~~

Can you guys get along?
I am siding with Cerb, I am starting to not care.

~B

:<

i'm going to take a break from this until Saturday. i still care, a lot, but this is dampening my mood. see you all soon.

pedit: i'm not taking anything personally, i just want everyone to remember this is a game.

Would

Scum-Alisae

go as far as this to emphasize her meta-point?



She's actively buzzing to have her voice heard in conversation. While

Alisae

may get upset as scum, but as scum, she doesn't NEED to go to this level.

Plus,

Alisae

and I are posting our own raw, specific thoughts. Nobody else has or could've influenced them.

If you want to talk more meta, then evaluate me.

I promise the 2 things, Alisae is town and we are always lynching scum today.

~B

Alisae

told me to sheep you.

While that's not in my personal way of playing the game; I want to work with you closely, and that's by communication.

I'll reevaluate those 4 people you listed soon, and I'll encourage

Alisae

to do the same.

[Bronya Zaychik]

Can we just get my answers from D1? Who else was in red hood? Did they claim to each other?

I still wanna lynch Micc.

I don't see any MtG claims today, nor do I see any point in doing so. We could wind up back at MTG.

~Titus

[Gamma Emerald]

Do you want me to claim my MtG role now? Because at this point I'm actually willing to. I was only opposed to claiming Undertale role, and I saw you trying to tie those togehter earlier.
PEdit: I think if we do go back it will be much later

[Reasonably Rational]

Okay, so nothings changed from the rules for the M:tG setup as far as the likelihood of roles changing etc is concerned.

Considering nobody previously brought up the possibility of things changing this way, even those who have stated they had prior knowledge of Varsoon floating a similar idea to this before, everyone who now suddenly believes we should mass claim(read, the PH slot), needs to explain what the difference is between yesterday and today, because that particular mechanic certainly isn't different, it's just reflavored.

-Cerb

[Taly]

Can we just get my answers from D1? Who else was in red hood? Did they claim to each other?

I still wanna lynch Micc.

I don't see any MtG claims today, nor do I see any point in doing so. We could wind up back at MTG.

~Titus

I highly, HIGHLY doubt we will wind back up at MtG.

Alisae

expresses the same sentiment.

Alisae:

A.

Varsoon

said he has wanted to attempt to mod multiple setups in one before, so he's like to make other setups appear

B.

If we could wind up in MtG V might have kept those mechanics up

Also,

Alisae

says I cannot be replaced, not sure about her reasoning. Not like I'm going to stop activity now, though.

We both want to see a

Pacifist

massclaim. Read my claim post at the beginning of this day for what I'm referring to. 3111

Do you want me to claim my MtG role now? Because at this point I'm actually willing to. I was only opposed to claiming Undertale role, and I saw you trying to tie those togehter earlier.
PEdit: I think if we do go back it will be much later

Yeah, claim.

Okay, so nothings changed from the rules for the M:tG setup as far as the likelihood of roles changing etc is concerned.

Considering nobody previously brought up the possibility of things changing this way, even those who have stated they had prior knowledge of Varsoon floating a similar idea to this before, everyone who now suddenly believes we should mass claim(read, the PH slot), needs to explain what the difference is between yesterday and today, because that particular mechanic certainly isn't different, it's just reflavored.

-Cerb

Alisae

knows this better than I do, so I want to make sure I'm verified in my thoughts and I'll get back to you on this.

[Taly]

Golly, you must be so confused.
Someone ought to teach you how things work around here!

VOTECOUNT 2.01

Gamma Emerald (2.5):

Maid Cafe, Taly, baku and munna

Purple Heart (1):

Reasonably Rational

Not Voting (12):

Iconeum, Chara, Creature, Bronya Zaychik, Almost50, SnarkySnowman, Gamma Emerald, Skybird, Nancy Drew 39, Venmar, Dunnstral

With 15 Alive, it takes 8 to Lynch.
Deadline

: (expired on 2018-04-06 20:00:00)

The current playthrough is on the GENOCIDE ROUTE.
Skybird is a non-legal target for actions.
Almost50 is unable to vote or use any abilities, including factional abilities/kills (if any).

Pointing out the confirmation of my claim, here.

I'm Purple Heart, but I'm voting as Taly, and I'm only worth .5 a vote.

[Maid Cafe]

Taly if you post 100 more times and overtake alisae do you lose your ability to post?

[Maid Cafe]

Can anyone kill or get results in the day?

~B

[Reasonably Rational]

"PLANECHASE"

When the game begins, all players assume the role of 'Planeswalkers' on the plane of Dominaria.
However, at the start of each new day, all players will begin in a new plane.
Each plane represents a different world or universe in the multiverse, and will come with its own set of unique rules specific to that plane.
These unique planar rules will often influence player's mana growth, mana use, and spell card effects.
While some of these changes are incredibly drastic and border on what may be considered 'bastard' by some, this is not a bastard game.[/spoiler][/align]

"That's the expression of someone who's died twice in a row."

When the game begins, all players assume the role of characters in Undertale.
However, at the start of each new day, a new 'playthrough' of the game will begin.
Each 'playhtrough' represents reloading a 'SAVE' file in order to influence the end of the game, and will come with its own set of unique rules specific to that playthrough.
These unique 'playthrough' rules will often influence player's roles.
While some of these changes are incredibly drastic and border on what may be considered 'bastard' by some, this is not a bastard game.[/spoiler]

So the only difference is that the new one explicitly says roles, where the other one explicitly said everything *but* roles.

Which, upon reading, makes me even more unhappy with the game.

-Cerb

[Bronya Zaychik]

@Taly, Part of my reservations with massclaim are the very people who want the claim are not doing it. I'm very anti massclaim in 90+ percent of situations. There's no guarantee we don't go back and I don't want to help scum. The only things I'd find useful for now are the things I asked about.

~Titus

[Maid Cafe]

Hey Titus where is your head at right now?

~B

[Bronya Zaychik]

"PLANECHASE"

When the game begins, all players assume the role of 'Planeswalkers' on the plane of Dominaria.
However, at the start of each new day, all players will begin in a new plane.
Each plane represents a different world or universe in the multiverse, and will come with its own set of unique rules specific to that plane.
These unique planar rules will often influence player's mana growth, mana use, and spell card effects.
While some of these changes are incredibly drastic and border on what may be considered 'bastard' by some, this is not a bastard game.[/spoiler][/align]

"That's the expression of someone who's died twice in a row."

When the game begins, all players assume the role of characters in Undertale.
However, at the start of each new day, a new 'playthrough' of the game will begin.
Each 'playhtrough' represents reloading a 'SAVE' file in order to influence the end of the game, and will come with its own set of unique rules specific to that playthrough.
These unique 'playthrough' rules will often influence player's roles.
While some of these changes are incredibly drastic and border on what may be considered 'bastard' by some, this is not a bastard game.[/spoiler]

So the only difference is that the new one explicitly says roles, where the other one explicitly said everything *but* roles.

Which, upon reading, makes me even more unhappy with the game.

-Cerb

*shrug*

The only thing I feel is bastard is Creatures not living throughout the days.

[Maid Cafe]

To get specific, what about the 4 names I mentioned earlier in the thread.

~B