VARSOON VARIETY HOUR : GAME SCRAPPED

[Varsoon]

While you are in a FIGHT, strike up a friendly conversation.
Stall for time. I will come to resolve the conflict.

VOTECOUNT 2.02

Gamma Emerald (2.5):

Maid Cafe, Taly, baku and munna

baku and munna (2):

Gamma Emerald, Venmar

Taly (1):

Reasonably Rational

Not Voting (9):

Iconeum, Chara, Creature, Bronya Zaychik, Almost50, SnarkySnowman, Skybird, Nancy Drew 39, Dunnstral

With 15 Alive, it takes 8 to Lynch.
Deadline

: (expired on 2018-04-06 20:00:00)

The current playthrough is on the GENOCIDE ROUTE.
Skybird is a non-legal target for actions.
Almost50 is unable to vote or use any abilities, including factional abilities/kills (if any).
Iconeum is on V/LA until Monday.

[Bronya Zaychik]

Me and Claire decided claiming this was correct. (lol day roleblocker if thats a thing).

We can put 3 people in a hood RBing all of them.

We kinda want to use this to win the game on the spot.

~B

I kind of want you to use this on us to prevent us from using the thing I don't want to use.

Requires Drixx input to know if that's the right call.

-Cerb

I wholeheartedly agree.

~D

If RR is in the hood, we volunteer. I have a near 100% win rate when hooded with them.

~Titus

[Bronya Zaychik]

I'm at a point where I REALLY don't care anymore, so I'll just say it and get it over with:

I bloody fucked up. It was I who hammered Mastina. I wasn't sure of their alignment because Mastina's posting was terribad .. like horrific. On the other hand Yume was quite and I associate that more with her Town play. When things got over-heated to the point I could not even READ (let alone comprehend) the thread I decided it might be good to just end the day and see if Mastina was scum and hijacking the slot (she said she won't be posting much and look how "little" she posted indeed) *Smirk*

Anyway, that was my bloody mistake.

Then I got a hood with OTM and they said I'd look really bad if they got NK'd, but there was nothing I can do to affect the NK because I'm NOT SCUM. So when I got to the thread at the start of the day and saw OTM was the NK AND that I lost my vote AGAIN I really gave in and gave up. Beeboy and Ali are being overly and utterly stupid and tunneled, and I just don't want to deal with that as it affects my mood nor only for this game but for.. well.. everything I do.

So there.

Oh, and Beeboy is being doubly stupid for suggesting the spell was U/G when in fact I was all WHITE. He just looked at the PHOTO and decided it was U/G (much like a toddler who can't read but enjoys the comics anyway).

If you guys want to lynch me, so be it. I have not and probably will no be on top of the game any time soon anyway. So there!

P.S. I reserve the right to respond only to players whom I'm willing to work with. Anyone I dislike I will ignore their questions AND will also ignore them being rephrased by people I'm willing to work with because I don't feel like going round and round in circle when it doesn't even matter.

Over

Ok. Who do you think are the bad guys by your gut?

[Almost50]

I stopped developing/updating my reads after last night, so here's where I was at before the day started:

1 Creature
2 Chara
3 Reasonably Rational
4 Maid Cafe
5 SnarkySnowman
6 TalyAlisae
7 Skybird
8 Gamma Emerald << This one by virtue of OTM who had them even higher
-9- Bronya Zaychik << Null Line
10 MiccNancy Drew 39
11 Baku and Munna
12 Venmar << OTM also had this one much higher but I'm not convinced. They wanted to leave him alone till LyLo
13 Iconeum << Also this one OTM objected to. In fact I said I was confident there's scum on Ven/Ico because they were the only two on the Mastina wagon that I had below my null line and OTM's response was "I just can't see it this way".

. Dunnstral

Dunn is a non-entity to me. Math said they didn't agree but didn't even elaborate on whether he should be a TR or a SR

Re: The Mastina wagon. OTM asked why I TR Ali and SR Ico and I said it was because Ico joined the wagon late, and OTM said that it makes Ali look worse because he refused to listen. Ali was my 3rd strongest TR at the start of the night but relegated to 6th after that. Still a solid TR for me though.

I also had another reason to suspect Ico and thatb was lining up lynches (if Mastina is Town we lynch Ali) and OTM argued that Taly did the same. I explained that Taly was hinting OTM could be scum WITH Mastina, so that's not really scummy because Mastina flipped Town. Ico -on the other hand- could very well be scum who knew Mastina was flipping Town and thus is more suspicious to me.

[Almost50]

OTM corrected me on the Taly thing, saying she actually said "if both were alive"

[Skybird]

I stopped developing/updating my reads after last night, so here's where I was at before the day started:

1 Creature
2 Chara
3 Reasonably Rational
4 Maid Cafe
5 SnarkySnowman
6 TalyAlisae
7 Skybird
8 Gamma Emerald << This one by virtue of OTM who had them even higher
-9- Bronya Zaychik << Null Line
10 MiccNancy Drew 39
11 Baku and Munna
12 Venmar << OTM also had this one much higher but I'm not convinced. They wanted to leave him alone till LyLo
13 Iconeum << Also this one OTM objected to. In fact I said I was confident there's scum on Ven/Ico because they were the only two on the Mastina wagon that I had below my null line and OTM's response was "I just can't see it this way".

. Dunnstral

Dunn is a non-entity to me. Math said they didn't agree but didn't even elaborate on whether he should be a TR or a SR

Re: The Mastina wagon. OTM asked why I TR Ali and SR Ico and I said it was because Ico joined the wagon late, and OTM said that it makes Ali look worse because he refused to listen. Ali was my 3rd strongest TR at the start of the night but relegated to 6th after that. Still a solid TR for me though.

I also had another reason to suspect Ico and thatb was lining up lynches (if Mastina is Town we lynch Ali) and OTM argued that Taly did the same. I explained that Taly was hinting OTM could be scum WITH Mastina, so that's not really scummy because Mastina flipped Town. Ico -on the other hand- could very well be scum who knew Mastina was flipping Town and thus is more suspicious to me.

I am very confident Iconeum is town. He should not be the lynch today or any day.

[Almost50]

OTM says Gamma is himself and will always be so until he is more (whatever that means) is the reason he is Town. They suspected Sky for "rolefishing" and Ali for the relentless push on Mastina. They also "didn't fully trust me" and would have rathered I got Lie-detected, and were not content with Cerb's play in general.

They HARD TR'd Beeboy (said he was obv!Town), and had a mild TR on both Venmar and Gamma, and they were confident the Parish creature was scum controlled (I had the opposite view and always thought it was Town and associated it with Creature in particular, and I made a pun of Creature controlling the creature).

P-edit: You asked for my reads. I don't even have a vote to contribute to any lynch anyway.

[Skybird]

Do you really feel you can't contribute if you don't have a vote?

[Reasonably Rational]

A50 - How often do we use our vote? Just play as if you did and convince people to go with you.

~D

[Almost50]

Do you really feel you can't contribute if you don't have a vote?

What do you suggest I'd do? I'm answering questions, am I not? And providing reads, and conveying the last words of a dead Townie too. I'm open to suggestions if you have any.

[Almost50]

@Drixx: Do you know I'm one who can "convince people to go with me"?? I don't even know what's gong on myself, and my read list was practically conflicted with that of OTM (a confirmed Townie) and is also different from the living majority (yours included), plus I'm being under continuous fire from 2 slots whom I think are both Town, so can't even return the fire, so to speak.

You know, the one thing I could do is eat rope and let you guys settle it between yourselves. "Remove the obstacles". and I'm being one myself so I deserve to go. Fair is fair.

But if you have specific questions for me I'd be happy to answer them.

[Chara]

Almost is town.

[Chara]

and a good half of Purple Heart scum (half, not all) had to do with them being responsible for or getting their team to make that hammer. i don't know what to make of Almost claiming it here

exactly

, but he's town for doing so.

[Taly]

@Cerb

I'm going to talk with

Alisae

about what

Varsoon

said and I'll likely give a response.

Also, while you keep your vote on me, can you explain why you want to

Chara

to elaborate on

Me/Alisae

being scum...?

1)

Why track PR reads and not scumreads?

2)

How would claims have changed your targets?

3)

So the amount of people you track changes the mana you get from it?

Because I wanted the mana, tracker is actually more useful lategame. Claims would have changed my targets by making me go for them specifically. I always get 2 mana if I get them all right or none if any are wrong, but I had no leads so I wanted to get as many leads as possible.

I still don't get tracking PR reads over scumreads. From the perspective on D1, everyone likely had some form of role that could be used. What "leads" were you hoping to find?

But several people did claim in D1. To my understanding,

((point out if I'm wrong))

Maid Cafe

,

Almost50

,

Chara

, and

Bronya

never ability claimed.

okay, so idk what im at right now with this game

so let me say where i'm at right now with this game; here's where i'm at: i'm kind of lost. my #3272 came from a point of frustration based on the game changing flavours, and after recollection i'm actually still fine with alisae's slot, though i'm still definitely not happy with pushing a massclaim this early.

i find myself agreeing, yet being at conflict with my townreads. i think maid cafe and purple heart are solving this game, but i disagree with some of their reads that they are pushing hard right now, and by reads i really just mean the singular read of gamma. i am purely, and entirely, solely townreading gamma off gut. im definitely not qualified to make this read since my meta with gamma isn't THAT long, and i had troubles reading him in some games, but my honest to god, twitch, blind gut reaction to his posting here is that he is town. i still think gamma's posting is just like what i remembered it to be from valentines mafia, and i also townread gamma's frustration and exasperation since it's again something i associate with his town-range.

that said:

Gamma Emerald.
Almost50.
Baku and Munna.
Nacy Drew

~B

i think this is a good place to start. im still not sold on the micc slot, i still think micc's play was genuine though nacy drew is nulling the slot up by being, well, absent, though i'm still not ready to lynch the slot. i can definitely get behind baku and almost50 though since i think a50 is missing the direction and purpose i associate with his townplay, his play just feels apathetic and meandering, and my impression of baku's play as-so-far is just doing some very wolfy popins and doing some scummy posturing (their positioning regarding chara's claim mainly comes to mind).

vote: baku

^ i think this is the vote to go with today i think

Me and Claire decided claiming this was correct. (lol day roleblocker if thats a thing).

We can put 3 people in a hood RBing all of them.

We kinda want to use this to win the game on the spot.

~B

nutty. i think lynching baku and putting a50/gamma/?? in the neighborhood is the right play here. i'm more interested in testing gamma via the rb than lynching him to be honest.

Alisae:

I really do not think that we're going to be in the MtG setup again, but if people want to wait ONE day to prove me wrong then I guess I'll let people do that

wow that case is bad
like holy shit bad
i sent in the action to make the hood quite a bit before the hammer but varsoon wasn't online at the time so the action got buffered
the reason i hadn't used it yet was because i was waiting for shiro to come around and discuss who to hood.

What was the point in hooding

MC

?

and a good half of Purple Heart scum (half, not all) had to do with them being responsible for or getting their team to make that hammer. i don't know what to make of Almost claiming it here

exactly

, but he's town for doing so.

....Waiting for the associatives....

[Maid Cafe]

Almost is town.

I am guessing your only learning how to improve your playstyle from Eli and not your reads.

~B

[Gamma Emerald]

I still don't get tracking PR reads over scumreads. From the perspective on D1, everyone likely had some form of role that could be used. What "leads" were you hoping to find?

But several people did claim in D1. To my understanding,

((point out if I'm wrong))

Maid Cafe

,

Almost50

,

Chara

, and

Bronya

never ability claimed.

I was hoping to get at least one result to use on future days to gain more mana.
And if someone claimed I most likely missed it. Serves me right for not finishing my catch-up.

[beeboy]

I mean I can just do gamma and worry about everyone else later but idk.
Almost50 literally just claimed scum lol.

~B

[Maid Cafe]

I mean I can just do gamma and worry about everyone else later but idk.
Almost50 literally just claimed scum lol.

~B

You will stay in this hydra and you will like it mr I get you're dumb and hydra slip a lot but for your sake don't do it again

[Taly]

Almost50

, can you vote to prove that it wasn't stolen?

[Maid Cafe]

Taly talk to Alisae, I think the plan for today is.
I RB, Cerb, Vanmar and Baku.

We then lynch Gamma and A50 can't act.
Then trackers/RBers hop onto Nancy.
But if I snapped the entire team scum can't even kill kek.

~B

[Taly]

Taly talk to Alisae, I think the plan for today is.
I RB, Cerb, Vanmar and Baku.

We then lynch Gamma and A50 can't act.
Then trackers/RBers hop onto Nancy.
But if I snapped the entire team scum can't even kill kek.

~B

We have been talking ^.^

We are both fine with this plan.

[Bronya Zaychik]

VOTE: baku hydra
We want to do ghis for now.

[Almost50]

Almost50

, can you vote to prove that it wasn't stolen?

Are you saying the MOD is lying to you? I cannot vote as per the Varsoon himself (last line in both VCs he posted so far). *Sigh*

VOTE: A50

Happy?

[Venmar]

Almost is town.

why?

[Venmar]

Taly talk to Alisae, I think the plan for today is.
I RB, Cerb, Vanmar and Baku.

why are you even roleblocking me >.>

can you angle me in on your scumread on me or what?