VARSOON VARIETY HOUR : GAME SCRAPPED

[Bronya Zaychik]

If you are able to confirm your alignment as town to us, and are not in any PTs (of course), you are a top candidate!

~Kiana

[Purple Heart]

BY THE WAY
IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY AT THE NEW OP PICTURE
YOU WILL SEE THIS

ON THE VERY BOTTOM, THERE IS A DANTE, NOT TO MENTION IT SAYS "FEATURING DANTE FROM THE DEVIL MAY CRY SERIES"
DANTE IS IN THE GAME

Spoiler: HERE IS EVEN MORE PROOF THAT DANTE IS IN THE GAME

DANTE IS IN THIS GAME.

[Skybird]

@Nancy Drew - how about reading D2 and giving us your thoughts? That will allow you to start interacting with us. Read D1 as time allows or to get context on someone's ISO.

[Gamma Emerald]

BY THE WAY
IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY AT THE NEW OP PICTURE
YOU WILL SEE THIS

ON THE VERY BOTTOM, THERE IS A DANTE, NOT TO MENTION IT SAYS "FEATURING DANTE FROM THE DEVIL MAY CRY SERIES"
DANTE IS IN THE GAME

Spoiler: HERE IS EVEN MORE PROOF THAT DANTE IS IN THE GAME

DANTE IS IN THIS GAME.

How is this relevant

[Purple Heart]

Alright I have been thinking about this since the route swap and I think this is good to claim: if I get lynched today I do not die, no nightkill happens tonight, and the theme doesn't change at the end of the night. In addition the route will not change cos no deaths. I'm thinking we actually lynch me today, get some info during the night, then come at it with no theme change, thus keeping people like RR engaged.
Any objections? btw if you'd like me to claim flavor or geno ability I'm okay with that as well

Good to see I'm invisible.

1)

Did you see 3561?

2)

Why are you resigning to be lynched?

3)

What is the benefit of staying in this theme?

BY THE WAY
IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY AT THE NEW OP PICTURE
YOU WILL SEE THIS

ON THE VERY BOTTOM, THERE IS A DANTE, NOT TO MENTION IT SAYS "FEATURING DANTE FROM THE DEVIL MAY CRY SERIES"
DANTE IS IN THE GAME

Spoiler: HERE IS EVEN MORE PROOF THAT DANTE IS IN THE GAME

DANTE IS IN THIS GAME.

How is this relevant

How have your posts been relevant lately?

~ Taly

[Reasonably Rational]

What Taly said.

The real annoying thing isn't that the theme changed. It's that I LIKED WHAT WE WERE DOING BEFORE, AND NOW IT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

I don't want this fucking theme. Undertale is a great game, but that doesn't make up for losing out on what I was actually enjoying.

Basically, what you're proposing is trapping us in this hell for longer, which is something I don't see a benefit to.

-Cerb

[Chara]

Cerb, did you do it?

[Reasonably Rational]

Cerb, did you do it?

Answer the thing? Nope. Too busy to spend time on it, my first thought is clearly not correct, haven't put any more thought into it.

-Cerb

[Reasonably Rational]

And I have more pressing things to spend my mafia time on when I actually manage to get Drixx to talk to me. :-/

-Cerb

[Gamma Emerald]

Alright I have been thinking about this since the route swap and I think this is good to claim: if I get lynched today I do not die, no nightkill happens tonight, and the theme doesn't change at the end of the night. In addition the route will not change cos no deaths. I'm thinking we actually lynch me today, get some info during the night, then come at it with no theme change, thus keeping people like RR engaged.
Any objections? btw if you'd like me to claim flavor or geno ability I'm okay with that as well

Good to see I'm invisible.

1)

Did you see 3561?

2)

Why are you resigning to be lynched?

3)

What is the benefit of staying in this theme?

3561 was pointless. I'm not resigning to being lynched per se, I don't die upon my lynch. The benefit of staying in this theme is people like RR don't get disengaged from another theme swap.

BY THE WAY
IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY AT THE NEW OP PICTURE
YOU WILL SEE THIS

ON THE VERY BOTTOM, THERE IS A DANTE, NOT TO MENTION IT SAYS "FEATURING DANTE FROM THE DEVIL MAY CRY SERIES"
DANTE IS IN THE GAME

Spoiler: HERE IS EVEN MORE PROOF THAT DANTE IS IN THE GAME

DANTE IS IN THIS GAME.

How is this relevant

How have your posts been relevant lately?

~ Taly

You haven't acknowledged any relevance of my posts so this type of question automatically makes me say "nope". I'll actually respond to this sort of comment when you acknowledge I have contributed.

[Gamma Emerald]

What Taly said.

The real annoying thing isn't that the theme changed. It's that I LIKED WHAT WE WERE DOING BEFORE, AND NOW IT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

I don't want this fucking theme. Undertale is a great game, but that doesn't make up for losing out on what I was actually enjoying.

Basically, what you're proposing is trapping us in this hell for longer, which is something I don't see a benefit to.

-Cerb

Well if that's the case then I'm not a good lynch, shoot.

[Reasonably Rational]

What Taly said.

The real annoying thing isn't that the theme changed. It's that I LIKED WHAT WE WERE DOING BEFORE, AND NOW IT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

I don't want this fucking theme. Undertale is a great game, but that doesn't make up for losing out on what I was actually enjoying.

Basically, what you're proposing is trapping us in this hell for longer, which is something I don't see a benefit to.

-Cerb

Well if that's the case then I'm not a good lynch, shoot.

So, this is, tonally, pretty legit.

I was pretty concerned that scum!you's team went with the swap to pacifist because gamma was a potential lynch, and they had some ability to make you lynchproof in exchange for their nk, with some extra nk's later or something to make up for it, or it was just a play o get town cred for being lynchproof and demonstrating it.

-Cerb

[Purple Heart]

I cannot understand why A50 is so upset over losing a vote. Who cares? I guess I'll never understand these people.

My God! People keep going on and on in circles yet never realizing what the whole point is!

I .. am ... NNNNNOOOOOOTTTTTTT .... upset ... over ... LOSING .. the vote

I .. am .. upset ... over ... being accused .... of being ... A LIAR

Now let's drop the subject since it's irrelevant at this point.

I don't think you are lying, I've never personally thought you were lying. But like my claim in 3111, I confirmed the change to my vote by placing one. 3217 I was pointing out the validity of my claim, not because it was invalid, but because it keeps people on track with claims and abilities that happen to someone.

That's what I wanted to see you do in 3368

((Which you did in so it would reaffirmed my townlean read on you.))

I want to communicate with you, and I'm losing the point in discussing the vote-steal unless someone outright claims they did it.

Also, assuming you can vote now due to the shift to Pacifist, do you have any thoughts revolving around

Gamma's

wagon?

Alright I have been thinking about this since the route swap and I think this is good to claim: if I get lynched today I do not die, no nightkill happens tonight, and the theme doesn't change at the end of the night. In addition the route will not change cos no deaths. I'm thinking we actually lynch me today, get some info during the night, then come at it with no theme change, thus keeping people like RR engaged.
Any objections? btw if you'd like me to claim flavor or geno ability I'm okay with that as well

Good to see I'm invisible.

1)

Did you see 3561?

2)

Why are you resigning to be lynched?

3)

What is the benefit of staying in this theme?

3561 was pointless. I'm not resigning to being lynched per se, I don't die upon my lynch. The benefit of staying in this theme is people like RR don't get disengaged from another theme swap.

._____.

1)

Really? 3561 is irrelevant, but I voted you, and explicitly pointed out my view on you, and referenced to a post I questioned you on? 3496

...Which you didn't respond in the first place. So thanks for the dodge there.

2)

If you're not resigning to a lynch, then what's the point of 3565? You literally created a plan that involved you being lynched, unless I'm horribly misreading something.

Also, what do you mean

"I don't die upon my lynch"

?

3)

Is

ReasonablyRational's

and a few other people's issue with the theme-swap

truly

a good reason to stay in one...? Plus, what makes you think scum wouldn't NK someone?

What Taly said.

The real annoying thing isn't that the theme changed. It's that I LIKED WHAT WE WERE DOING BEFORE, AND NOW IT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

I don't want this fucking theme. Undertale is a great game, but that doesn't make up for losing out on what I was actually enjoying.

Basically, what you're proposing is trapping us in this hell for longer, which is something I don't see a benefit to.

-Cerb

Well if that's the case then I'm not a good lynch, shoot.

So, your plan to be lynched relies on one person's opinion?

~ Taly

[Reasonably Rational]

@Taly: Gamma is saying his role makes him lynchproof, so upon being lynched he won't die, and no NK will happen as a result of that ability being triggered, as well as the new save not being loaded...again, because of the effects of his lynchproof thing.

-Cerb

[Gamma Emerald]

1) Okay you link in 3561 was broken, sorry. Will look over the post
2) I would get lynched, yes, but I wouldn't be dead. Basically I'm a one shot lynchproof with some frills. And I don't support the plan anymore.
3) I know scum won't be able to NK because it says so in my role description. It's basically a soft reset plus info.

The plan was based on people not liking theme shifts, but since it's the particular theme it's not a good plan anymore.
PEdit: Cerb nails it

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm becoming conflicted with

Gamma

,

Alisae

is sure this is scum.

Maid Cafe

believes this is scum to my understanding, and while I do a somewhat-weak-scumread on this slot, my gut is telling me to shift focus.

Alisae

wants me to sheep

Bee

, and I'm still not 100% on either path.

It's another reason why I'm frustrated with this game and several players right now.

3179 I don't like how I was made out to be pissy here.

3524 I don't think scattershot on 4 people for tracking is very useful here? Especially since he was looking for PR reads and not scumreads? 3324, even if it was to get mana, I don't think the information he says he has helps enlighten his view or reads.

3381 Instead of him continuing to reply to quotes, I'd like for him to actually "catch up" with this game and make more detailed posts on his view.

btw I did manage to read a bit last game night and from what I did read I feel a little less good about Bronya

Elaborate on this.

Yeah, their interactions with OTM on the few pages I read, given OTM was nightkilled, don't really reflect that well on them imo

Also, can you explain how it doesn't reflect well on them?

3179: I thought based on how direct you were being you were upset at me.
3524: Actually thanks for bringing this up, I just realized there's a major issue with my results vs what has been claimed: Maid Cafe claimed a guilty on me then soft-retracted, but with my results that shouldn't be possible in the slightest.
By responding with quotes A) I can keep track of where I am, and B) it let's people see what I'm thinking as I'm posting.
The thing on Bronya: I feel like their interactions with Math could be reason to kill Math for them, because Math was refusing to submit to Bronya's will.

[Reasonably Rational]

I'm of the opinion that scum don't shoot Math unless they were outed by the artifact hood ability Math has. Drixx and I viewed them as among the least likely slots to be NK'd. Math was doing a lot to generate pages and pages of posts that help to create apathy in the town, without being listened to enough to represent a credible threat.

Does this make it likely that A50 is scum? Unfortunately, yes. He may not be the scum who cast that artifact, but if he isn't, he's protecting whoever that slot is.

-Cerb

[Maid Cafe]

Ya I am not sure how only the 2 of us see that.

~B

[Bronya Zaychik]

Ya I am not sure how only the 2 of us see that.

~B

Umm hey? I know I didn't yell about lynching A50 but that's what I saw as well. A50 was never in the OMG Shining is scum camp but he suddenly gives power to a slot that he doesn't know the alignment of and hurriedly ends the day? That's the situation if he's town.

I also think scum don't want us to go back to MTG if A50 is scum. :/

~Titus

[Maid Cafe]

I really think the trend of all the older users scum reading A50 is also a thing of like.
What A50 doing is a scum strat that people just aren't willing to do in the current generation of MS so like there is that.

~B

[Maid Cafe]

I am going to make a visual guide on how to win this game.

[Reasonably Rational]

Oh.

Other possibility:

Scum rolecopped Math during the day and thus knew that they would end up in a PT with whoever cast the artifact(and it wasn't one of them) and they went ahead and framed that person.

Very unlikely, but it has to be noted...and I don't think many people in this game would actually take that line.

-Cerb

pedit: So, I guess I'll also mention this whole thing we were doing too: We're in a PT with B&M. As I said, we joined it right after I made the lie detect post. The PT was created at 12:30 p.m., and the artifact was cast at 1 p.m., so further evidence that even if B&M didn't cast the spell, they were rushing to create a bunch of hoods FOR SOME REASON immediately before the artifact was cast and the day ended. We had an ability to send a (short) message to someone, and we told B&M that we were intending to use that message to tell Nancy to give a creature to PH, because they sounded like a good possibility for a UG slot, and giving a creature to them would either clear or condemn them as far as casting the sword was concerned.

B&M did nothing to dissuade us from taking that set of actions. They claim that they didn't understand that UG meant Blue Green, so they didn't realize that there was a connection to their colors there...but they also didn't ask for clarification at all. They also made a post that they thought the case on OTM was "legit", and basically said a few different things supporting the idea that the person who cast that artifact could be town.

In short, I'm currently of the opinion that B&M and A50 are scum, have thought B&M was probable scum since MC made their post about them claiming their color identity to them, and was hoping if I pushed back enough other people would come out and weigh in on the slot to actually get some more associatives.

[Maid Cafe]

I got my B&M hood at 12:50. so yeah lol.
The only motivation A50 has to claim is to cover for B&M even as town he shouldn't have claimed that.

Mark dying over {RR, MC, Purple, Chara, Bronya} is odd af and points to the guilty theory and not a coincedence.


Gamma is obvious scum and his flip points to Venmar.
B&M and A50 are just tied scum atm.

If I am wrong anywhere it's Nancy who is left.


Cerb thoughts on the team I've been at for awhile?

[Reasonably Rational]

Main concern is that it just happens that Varsoon came around to resolve stuff at once, and the order the hoods were created etc and the end of the day is 100% a coincidence caused by the timing of action submissions. :-/

-Cerb

[Reasonably Rational]

I don't think gamma is obvious scum, but I do have reservations about the slot, notably the pressure on the slot, scum decision to change modes, followed by him miraculously becoming lynchproof.

The issue with that though is that it makes B&M look better...except for the part where Gamma tried to get himself lynched..but he gave up so easily, that I don't fucking know.

I'm not expressing myself well, but I think you can follow the reasoning for everything.

-Cerb