Team Mafia 2018: Game 3 - Random GIFs Game Over

[Dunkerdoodles]

i believe both claims

arch+bulba it is

[Dunkerdoodles]

i'm checking with my team first though

[Dunkerdoodles]

Bins.

Any world where Deas isn't scum to you?

Well, yeah.

Right now, the possible teams are:

{Archwing or DV}, {Bulba or Dunker}

No idea.

i know i haven't played up to my locktown status but im not scum
can i ask why bulba + arch isn't one of the teams

it's the one that makes the most sense rn to me

[Dunkerdoodles]

Dunkerdoodles, From Chillplay Bombahskiies
Archwing (replaces UC Voyager), From Spam Squad
Keychain, From Team Cuddly
Bulbazak, From Queue Agents
Bins, From Make Papa Proud
Radja, From Dandy Irate Hoes
TBD (replaces chesskid3 replaces Smocaine), From Who is John Galt?

least scummy to most scummy i guess

i assume chess slot is deasvail so i'd like to start there

i dont think we massclaim yet

i think we lynch in dv/bins

This is what you've contributed today. I don't really see what information you gave.
Can you explain why we should not mass claim?
Can you convince me to lynch dv or bins? Sell me on the bins lynch, cause that one I don't see.

you are a policy lynch.

i know I can't speak from a high ground here, being kinda not around the last day or 2, but neither have you, and you've been here since the start. you saw all this unfold. I'd think you'd really really really have some more input than what you've given this day.

Like i said, if you're town, give us something, please.

yeah that's a bad reason cause
1. we already discussed how this is a bad reason
2. i love playing scum

earlier on when you guys were talking about meta he for some reason didn't talk about his and tried to avoid it i feel

pedit: well tbh i honestly wanted scum but we drew 5 town pms so

eddie locktown

def scum in (mathdino, a50)

boon had eddie as scum but now he has him as town.
also has tbone at scum

screen has math and key as town, elena eddie and a50 as scumlean

bins is town
elena might be scum but no
i have changed my mind and decided to scumread math again

VOTE: mathdino

super quick iso dive (didn't pull out everything I saw) showed a lot of defense of dunker on Bins. All of dunker's d1 reads (including teammates) are all flipped townies. Not much of a discussion point as a reference for me to pick up again when I have more time.

arch is the only one to mention the possibility of me being scum this whole game
he is also the only one in these 5 i've played a lot with, so he knows im mislynchable

arch also went on a complete 180 from believing the claim yesterday to now not believing it

[Bins]

If you believe my claim, Bulba is pretty much conf. the other scum to you. Same with Bulba, if you believe my claim, Dunker is scum to you.

Also, the game is over if DV is town and we win. So.

[mhsmith0]

Votecount 5.02

Archwing (1)

DeasVail L-2

DeasVail (1)

Archwing L-2

Not Voting (3)

Everyone Else

Day five deadline is Monday April 9, 2 PM PST. (expired on 2018-04-09 14:00:00).

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch!

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[Bulbazak]

@Bins: I know that. I've been wrestling over whether to just vote Dunker, since I know that's scum. But I also know that then we'd be back to Arch v. DV again, and I'd have to be the one to decide. No matter what, we need to figure this out. I just don't know whether it's best to do so now or later.

[Bulbazak]

Also, there's the fact that things aren't so clear cut for you. So it might be better to just figure out the 1v1 that needs figuring out, knowing that the other falls into place later. Although, again, that's just from my perspective.

[Bins]

The fact that one of DV/Archwing is scum isn't what surprises me, I was going to look in there anyway today. What surprises me is one of Dunker+Bulba is scum and I'm not sure who that is.

[Bins]

LLD-slot has such a hard townread on Dunker, same with Fitz-slot. Same with everyone in the game other than Mina (who died... surprisingly).

[Bins]

can i ask why bulba + arch isn't one of the teams

They are. Ur reading my table wrong.

[Bulbazak]

arch is the only one to mention the possibility of me being scum this whole game

I started considering it d3 after your interactions surrounding the Xyzzy wagon.

[Archwing]

@dunker
4028

first, i never actually called you scum in any of those posts. I was just calling out to town!Dunker, if he was there. Why? I wanted to see who would jump on with me. I was pseudo-building a case to see who else would bite and follow suit. I really don't wanna believe you're scum. Post-game you can see that I had proposed a townbloc to creature with you, me, and Bins. He was pretty solid on it, too.

and I think it's pretty obvious to believe the claim not-in-lylo, no CC's, etc. Had Bins claimed yesterday, I probably would've questioned DV a lot more. Now, today, DV is claiming a tracker-guilty on me, even though I'm a VT. FMPOV, my line of reasoning re:Backup Tracker claim is pretty reasonable I think.

and yeah, i've played with you a bit. I know you are lynchable, Dunker, but damn.... You are not the one in your group to take a scum role.

[Archwing]

DV is 100% confscum.
i'm 90% on Bulba, 10% on dunker. I'll go through those interactions at night, if we are lucky enough to get there.

[Bulbazak]

Archwing's explanation has the whiff of bull crap to it. Man, the question of balance is bugging me, but I just can't see how it isn't Arch. All the evidence is literally pointing in that direction. It literally explains his play from d3 on, as well as UCV's play and Fitz vote.

[Archwing]

Bulba.

Pretend I am scum. Who is my partner?
Dunker, Bins, Bulba..

Why would Deas track me out of the remaining players,

AND WHY WOULD I MAKE THE KILL?

. Honestly, that is a really big scumslip. I really don't give two shits about tracking the same target twice, that's whatever. What I am getting at, is that if I was scum, why would

I

make the night kill? I was the most suspect target yesterday aside from Radja. It really doesn't make sense.

[Dunkerdoodles]

@dunker
4028

first, i never actually called you scum in any of those posts. I was just calling out to town!Dunker, if he was there. Why? I wanted to see who would jump on with me. I was pseudo-building a case to see who else would bite and follow suit. I really don't wanna believe you're scum. Post-game you can see that I had proposed a townbloc to creature with you, me, and Bins. He was pretty solid on it, too.

and I think it's pretty obvious to believe the claim not-in-lylo, no CC's, etc. Had Bins claimed yesterday, I probably would've questioned DV a lot more. Now, today, DV is claiming a tracker-guilty on me, even though I'm a VT. FMPOV, my line of reasoning re:Backup Tracker claim is pretty reasonable I think.

and yeah, i've played with you a bit. I know you are lynchable, Dunker, but damn.... You are not the one in your group to take a scum role.

if you don't want to believe i'm scum why are trying to convince yourself and others?
your mindset is not making sense to me

[Dunkerdoodles]

Archwing's explanation has the whiff of bull crap to it. Man, the question of balance is bugging me, but I just can't see how it isn't Arch. All the evidence is literally pointing in that direction. It literally explains his play from d3 on, as well as UCV's play and Fitz vote.

then vote him

[Dunkerdoodles]

DV is 100% confscum.
i'm 90% on Bulba, 10% on dunker. I'll go through those interactions at night, if we are lucky enough to get there.

Bulba.

Pretend I am scum. Who is my partner?
Dunker, Bins, Bulba..

Why would Deas track me out of the remaining players,

AND WHY WOULD I MAKE THE KILL?

. Honestly, that is a really big scumslip. I really don't give two shits about tracking the same target twice, that's whatever. What I am getting at, is that if I was scum, why would

I

make the night kill? I was the most suspect target yesterday aside from Radja. It really doesn't make sense.

let me get this straight

you are trying to convince one of your scumreads to vote your other scumread

you are telling someone you have as 90% scum to vote someone you have as 100% scum

yeah no

[Archwing]

my dialogue is for everyone to read dunker. my intention is for everybody to read what I am saying and to hear my thoughts.

ffs i wish i just got NKd so i didn't have to deal with this bullshit.

dunker, do you not see how scum!me never makes that kill? and thus, making Deas' claim absolute bullshit?

why would scum!me wait until now to fuck around with Deas' claim?

I believed his claim because there was nothing else to CC it, and only 2 town PR's is kinda weak af. again, had Bins claimed yesterday, I may have played that differently. but deas essentially conf!towned themselves by being the only town PR claim yesterday.

[Archwing]

if you don't want to believe i'm scum why are trying to convince yourself and others?
your mindset is not making sense to me

at that time, I was doing a smaller late-game reaction test, of sorts. I wanted to see if anyone would "take the bait" and follow me on a scum!dunker wagon. obviously that didn't go very far. I'm not trying to convince myself you're scum. I wanted to see if anyone else wanted to believe you were scum.

[Archwing]

i believe both claims

arch+bulba it is

how do you believe both claims tho?

[Dunkerdoodles]

my dialogue is for everyone to read dunker. my intention is for everybody to read what I am saying and to hear my thoughts.

ffs i wish i just got NKd so i didn't have to deal with this bullshit.

dunker, do you not see how scum!me never makes that kill? and thus, making Deas' claim absolute bullshit?

why would scum!me wait until now to fuck around with Deas' claim?

I believed his claim because there was nothing else to CC it, and only 2 town PR's is kinda weak af. again, had Bins claimed yesterday, I may have played that differently. but deas essentially conf!towned themselves by being the only town PR claim yesterday.

no, i can definitely see you making the kill over bulba
for one you might think deas might track someone more townread like bulba
or you could think he won't track the same person twice.

and i do believe both claims because they both make the balanced
2 prs + backup vs goons makes sense (fv doesn't count for balance here)

[Dunkerdoodles]

if you knew i was town, why were you scum casing me?
isn't that against your wincon if you are town to be pushing someone you think is town?

i don't buy the whole "it was a reaction test thing" your pushes don't read to me like reaction tests. they read like you were seeing if my wagon was viable for real, to try and mislynch me or atleast set it up for later.

[Archwing]

smh.

sorry for being a shitty town. to be fair I lurked out a bit closer to when I entered the game, and I apologize for that.

like obviously FMPOV i know 100% Deas is lying. I just really really don't know how to else to make you guys see this.

Like, out of LQ (game still active), Assembler/Mulch (scum), Sheep (scum), and creature (town)... how does UCV take scum here?

Dunker, I know you're town. Bins is obviously conftown. Bulba has been setting up my mislynch since late yesterday and all of this day now. He's just slow-rolling it until another townie votes, and he'll quick hammer.