Sid Meier's Civilization 5 UPick Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Gamma Emerald]

Dear Caesar,

Fuck off with this gimmick, or I will start with a gimmick of my own and read all your posts as mouth farts until we lynch you.

Sincerely,
Pedro II, Brazilian Carnival Thrower.

2nded.

Don't know who this so-called "Pine" is or care very much.

Pine is a very, very deceptive scum player. I'm not trusting him unless he obvtowns.

[brassherald]

Its time for mass claim, I only backed off pretty hard because nero softed a great pr

I hardclaim that i am a commuter , its also the reason why Kokichi disliked gamma commuter shot because i was his neighbor

popcorn to titus

Oh, shit, I forgot Joey said this.

[brassherald]

And here I was being a jerk.

[Joey_]

I believe Gamma's claim and think he's a garbage-tier lynch for today. People should definitely stop telling him to out whether or not he has a protective and who he would be targeting if he is, that is literally just giving scum information. Like, fucking hell, "Oh they'll only kill Gamma that's no big deal" if they don't know if he's a protective or not, they might target somebody he is protecting and -nobody- would die, how do you miss that simple fucking logic? Christ alive.

I'm ok with Ranmaru...-kinda-. I'm not big on the idea of lynching for him being away from game like I was for Creature, because so far as I'm aware it's not his thing. I'm happy with lynching Kokichi though, to be honest, because the more I read of their stuff, the more I regret ever removing my vote from them at the start of the game. Almost50 I am less confident about now.

VOTE: Kokichi I'll set this here for now I guess.

Fucking hell, Joey, what other means do you mean to use to protect the IC? If gamma is a protective, he's going to protect the IC, but it's not like there's any chance of overlap unless you magically know of some method of protecting brass that I don't. Him claiming protective does -nothing- pro town. Stop demanding it.

just like to point out that Shaziro's agenda towards Gamma (he knew he wasnt soft-guilted) is very very coherent with a vig mindset and not a SK mindset.

[brassherald]

You know what, I'm denouncing Caesar. O mundo saberá dos seus erros.

HEAL: Brass for host x4
HEAL: Joey for host x2

That's all for now.

[Almost50]

VOTE: Klazam

I don't care if Gamma is/isn't scum now. I just know Klazam is the last red (only one remaining to make sense to be scum with BOTH Creature & Dunker).

HEAL: brassherald
HEAL: brassherald
HEAL: brassherald

Just bringing the IC back in balance with Joey. Joey X2 + brass X1 twice put Joey ahead and Joey wants to be the runner up.

Did you receive a pm stating your religion spread were blocked ?

Yes, and I wanted to sleep on it to see what Pidgey would say

[Almost50]

VOTE: Klazam

I don't care if Gamma is/isn't scum now. I just know Klazam is the last red (only one remaining to make sense to be scum with BOTH Creature & Dunker).

HEAL: brassherald
HEAL: brassherald
HEAL: brassherald

Just bringing the IC back in balance with Joey. Joey X2 + brass X1 twice put Joey ahead and Joey wants to be the runner up.

Based on PR information or based on reads?

*Sigh* What is my role??

[BuJaber]

A50 (and marshy and pidgey):

Okay then ... let's just ask this question and this we can go back to trusting brass 100%:

Religion spreaders: is there anything you know about religion that implies a separate wincon or anti-town consequences?
(If all 3 answer the same way then we can believe them since only one targeted brass, only one is scum, which leaves one of them having 0 reasons to lie)

Please and thank you

[BuJaber]

Sorry for asking twice didn't realize you were catching up and responding as you read.

[Shaziro]

Good job fucking twat

Also this mean that scum only got 1 nk

Piss off with the insults, thanks in advance.

so there's no guilty.
why'd you shoot Kokichi?

it also means there's a missing kill from one of the scumteams. or they overlapped on Kokichi or Nero, but considering both of their positions i don't know how likely it is.

I explained my scumread on Kokichi, and it had become pretty clear that other folks weren't going to lynch there, so I shot my scumread. Other person I would've shot was Nero, but I realized my read on him was probably tainted by my disgust with his bullshit from earlier, so I let that one go.

[Joey_]

Spoiler: My reads

[

Brassherald
Innocent Child
▓▓▓▓
Joey	Chara
Commuter	?
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Kiana Kaslana	Bujaber	Gamma Emerald	Klazam
VT	VT	JOAT	?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Shaziro	Pidgey	Jodaxq
Vig	Catholic Spreader	Self Random Inventor
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Almost50	Marshy	Ranmaru	Titus
Taoism Spreader	Protestant Spreader	Last red ?	Last red ?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ? ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ? ▓▓▓▓

@Brass what do you think of that list ?

[brassherald]

Spoiler: My reads

[

Brassherald
Innocent Child
▓▓▓▓
Joey	Chara
Commuter	?
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Kiana Kaslana	Bujaber	Gamma Emerald	Klazam
VT	VT	JOAT	?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Shaziro	Pidgey	Jodaxq
Vig	Catholic Spreader	Self Random Inventor
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Almost50	Marshy	Ranmaru	Titus
Taoism Spreader	Protestant Spreader	Last red ?	Last red ?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ? ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ? ▓▓▓▓

@Brass what do you think of that list ?

I could get behind the scum reads, just not necessarily the specific colors.

Also, why is Klazam orange rather than Red?

[Shaziro]

The other NK last night was directed at me, Nero probably Jailkept me.

Shaziro, why didn't you vig Gamma, then?

Because firstly, I didn't think Gamma was scum, so why tf would I shoot him. Secondly, because the "soft guilty" on him was based on there being 3 deaths first night and Elbirn having -maybe- suggested he was going to weak bodyguard Gamma, but I knew that there were 3 kills because I had killed Dunker. So it was bullshit and I -kept telling you all that- but I wasn't about to claim then.

[Gamma Emerald]

the fucking religion spreads were blocked by world congress. what the fuck

And you couldn't just SHUT UP until Pidgey came in and claimed??

Why do you care more about pidgey than marshy?

peacekeeping doesn't have to be on host right? We can argue whether I should submit to my paranoia and give the peacekeeping to joey instead of brass or not later but if it works only on host then obviously we need to decide now

Peacekeeping can't be used on yourself, but other than that no restrictions

@mod - hypothetically if a JOAT had 1-shot commute could they use it on themselves?

Commute is always applied on self

I have only seen a self+other commuter, not a commute for others only, and this was offsite

i mean, if he's town he's not that much of a twat. he got Dunker.

i have to go look because Gamma nearly got lynched on a guilty that Shaziro would know isn't valid.

Didn't Shaz push my claim as false initially?

[Gamma Emerald]

@Joey I'm pretty sure Klazam isn't orange scum cos Varsoon's push was very much not a bus

[Almost50]

I shot Dunker,

I FUCKING TOLD YOU this wasn't a scum kill!
This means Red shot Varsoon and Orange shot Elbrin

[Gamma Emerald]

And btw I'm not claiming what ability I'm going to use tonight

[BuJaber]

The other NK last night was directed at me, Nero probably Jailkept me.

Shaziro, why didn't you vig Gamma, then?

Because firstly, I didn't think Gamma was scum, so why tf would I shoot him. Secondly, because the "soft guilty" on him was based on there being 3 deaths first night and Elbirn having -maybe- suggested he was going to weak bodyguard Gamma, but I knew that there were 3 kills because I had killed Dunker. So it was bullshit and I -kept telling you all that- but I wasn't about to claim then.

Oh yeah shaz being vig also means I read gamma correctly

[Almost50]

'll get back to this soon, (watching a soccer game now), but I also need to look for something

[Shaziro]

I accused you of lying because I was hoping to get, at worst, something NAI (which is what I got when other people answered -for- you).

[brassherald]

Provided no different issues arise during this day period, I think the World Congress should actually embargo Klazam and then we hang Caesar. Feedback on that?

[Joey_]

@brass
@Gamma

My klazam orange color basis is because of interactions (or lack thereof) with marshy + some interactions with creature, but he could be red too

Im fairly confident in calling marshy orange religion scum if theres 1

[Joey_]

Provided no different issues arise during this day period, I think the World Congress should actually embargo Klazam and then we hang Caesar. Feedback on that?

Shaziro are you inclined to claim if you can still shoot or not ? If you do not want to claim its fine

[Chara]

I explained my scumread on Kokichi, and it had become pretty clear that other folks weren't going to lynch there, so I shot my scumread. Other person I would've shot was Nero, but I realized my read on him was probably tainted by my disgust with his bullshit from earlier, so I let that one go.

i wish you'd shot a lurker instead of one of the players i had as town confidently (even if it was less confident day 2) but oh well.

i don't think Shaz is scum either. SK maybe, but no desire to lynch him right now.
he was arguing against Gamma's lynch if i can remember, and i can understand an unwillingness to claim.

[Chara]

I disgress, now that gamma is proven not-soft guilted, its much much more likely his town which gives even more credit to my klazoum case

@Chara what do you think ?

i need to reread what Gamma specifically has to do with that, will when i get home.

i like brass's plan but i want to see what Caesar actually does first.