Sid Meier's Civilization 5 UPick Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Chara]

Shaziro are you inclined to claim if you can still shoot or not ? If you do not want to claim its fine

...well, this does kind of remove the "orange scum can't claim this" if Shaz says he only had two shots later

[Gamma Emerald]

@brass
@Gamma

My klazam orange color basis is because of interactions (or lack thereof) with marshy + some interactions with creature, but he could be red too

Im fairly confident in calling marshy orange religion scum if theres 1

I myself still feel like marshy is probtown

[Gamma Emerald]

I accused you of lying because I was hoping to get, at worst, something NAI (which is what I got when other people answered -for- you).

dunno what you wanted to get?

[Klazam]

WHOOO IM RIGHT GAMMA FOR TOWN PRESIDENT


ok, serious timez now.

Obviously im fine with the ran case still. Thats where im voting after world congress bullshit.

speaking of

HEAL: HOST: JOEYx2
HEAL: HOST: Brassx2

My townpool: Brass, Gamma, Shaziro, Joey, Jodax

The rest can hang, including me- i know im barely playing this game at the moment, and that's on me.

[Almost50]

The other NK last night was directed at me, Nero probably Jailkept me.

Shaziro, why didn't you vig Gamma, then?

That's a possibility, yes. I was thinking more of both scums shot Nero though, because I kept calling him the Vig and they may have thought I knew something.

[Gamma Emerald]

um you only have 3 host vote

[Almost50]

A50 (and marshy and pidgey):

Okay then ... let's just ask this question and this we can go back to trusting brass 100%:

Religion spreaders: is there anything you know about religion that implies a separate wincon or anti-town consequences?
(If all 3 answer the same way then we can believe them since only one targeted brass, only one is scum, which leaves one of them having 0 reasons to lie)

Please and thank you

I know of no suck separate win-con. I am Town, win with the Town and lose with the Town.

[Almost50]

Why do you care more about pidgey than marshy?

I care about both and would have said the same if Pidgey spoke first. I intended to ask them both to claim their targets, ask their claimed targets to confirm, and see if anyone fell for it.

If I myself said I targeted X and asked them to confirm and they did then I'd know they were lying. If Pidgey said he targeted X and X confirmed they're likely scum together. If Pidgey said he targeted X and X said they received nothing them Pidgey alone is lying and is not a religion spreader because he didn't get that notice about gold having blocked the religion spreading.

It's that kind of trickery I always use to catch scum. This is also why I targeted brass on N1 to confirm my role, because those who know me know I could very well have planned to fake a claim with a scum p, so the confirmed Townie was my best option to confirm my role and that I did act as a spreader so didn't kill on N1.

You, sir, need a crash course of how to read the motive behind A50's play. You played me enough times but still haven't figured how my brain works yet

I kept arguing Dunker was a Vig shot and I was right. I didn't have "mod confirmed info", but I know if I was Scum I would not shoot obv!Scum on N1.

Anyway, the tldr is I was waiting for either to claim they targeted X and not mention that they were blocked, and marshy claiming he got blocked confirms his as a religion spreader but we are left with Pidgey's role unconfirmed.

[Almost50]

Provided no different issues arise during this day period, I think the World Congress should actually embargo Klazam and then we hang Caesar. Feedback on that?

I'll follow your lead, but right now I'm fairly confident Klazam is flipping red.

[Joey_]

Shaziro are you inclined to claim if you can still shoot or not ? If you do not want to claim its fine

...well, this does kind of remove the "orange scum can't claim this" if Shaz says he only had two shots later

True, but im actually thinking we could peacekeep his ass to assure 2 more "lynches" for n3 and n4 if he can

[pidgey]

Hey guys

[pidgey]

HEAL: Joeyx2
HEAL: brassx1

[pidgey]

Okay then ... let's just ask this question and this we can go back to trusting brass 100%:

Religion spreaders: is there anything you know about religion that implies a separate wincon or anti-town consequences?
(If all 3 answer the same way then we can believe them since only one targeted brass, only one is scum, which leaves one of them having 0 reasons to lie)

Not at all, but i seriously doubt we are fruit vendors.

My guess would be a third party has some wincon that ties up with religions spread. Or some scum abilities have to do with religions. I dont have a fkn clue.

[pidgey]

I'm Japan, hence my first post in this game starting with a haiku, and I have Bushido. I'm a vig. I shot Dunker, and I shot Kokichi.

Good first shot. BAD SECOND SHOT. WHY NOT KILL GAMMA!!!!!!!!!!! Why

[pidgey]

VOTE: Klazam

I don't care if Gamma is/isn't scum now. I just know Klazam is the last red (only one remaining to make sense to be scum with BOTH Creature & Dunker).

HEAL: brassherald
HEAL: brassherald
HEAL: brassherald

Just bringing the IC back in balance with Joey. Joey X2 + brass X1 twice put Joey ahead and Joey wants to be the runner up.

Based on PR information or based on reads?

*Sigh* What is my role??

I mean you can think im scum, but thinking im making up being a religion spreader is LOL

[pidgey]

OOOPS meant to quote 3530. But point still stands.

[pidgey]

Klazam claim or you are dead and ill hang you, basically

[pidgey]

Also not to brag but I think out of all the religion spreaders, my claim was the most towny. So townie points for me!

I dont think religion spreaders are fruit vendors at all, there's just no way. Religion was banned during the night because of gold, we all get lists and shit. There's fuckign 3 of us. It would be too dumb to make a game around it and they meaning nothing. It kinda sucks that its one of those cases where town just doesnt seem to have the adequate info, and I dont think every religion spreader might be town for sure, but it would be beyond dumb for this kind of game to make religion mean nothing.

Though this could be, in disguise, a critique to religion and how everyone worshippes imaginary beings that mean nothing and we actually mean nothing...

*End dumb post*

[pidgey]

Why do you care more about pidgey than marshy?

I care about both and would have said the same if Pidgey spoke first. I intended to ask them both to claim their targets, ask their claimed targets to confirm, and see if anyone fell for it.

If I myself said I targeted X and asked them to confirm and they did then I'd know they were lying. If Pidgey said he targeted X and X confirmed they're likely scum together. If Pidgey said he targeted X and X said they received nothing them Pidgey alone is lying and is not a religion spreader because he didn't get that notice about gold having blocked the religion spreading.

It's that kind of trickery I always use to catch scum. This is also why I targeted brass on N1 to confirm my role, because those who know me know I could very well have planned to fake a claim with a scum p, so the confirmed Townie was my best option to confirm my role and that I did act as a spreader so didn't kill on N1.

You, sir, need a crash course of how to read the motive behind A50's play. You played me enough times but still haven't figured how my brain works yet

I kept arguing Dunker was a Vig shot and I was right. I didn't have "mod confirmed info", but I know if I was Scum I would not shoot obv!Scum on N1.

Anyway, the tldr is I was waiting for either to claim they targeted X and not mention that they were blocked, and marshy claiming he got blocked confirms his as a religion spreader but we are left with Pidgey's role unconfirmed.

Again. Dude. If you think im scum thats fine, i get it. I could think one of us is scum too, one of us will probably end up actually being scum maybe. But none one of us is making up being a religion spreader. Why would we claim that on day 2? That's basically suicide as scum in a large game lol.

Ask me anything that comes in the role pm and ill paraphrase it for you.

[pidgey]

All in all, that post seems to me a little too tryhard as if you want to start calling me scum for no good reason.

[pidgey]

I guess nero cain jailkept me n1 and thats why my religion didnt went through, btw.

Kinda funny cause i tried to convert him lol

[Joey_]

i reread marshy's iso and damn his claim was kinda townie, rip

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm Japan, hence my first post in this game starting with a haiku, and I have Bushido. I'm a vig. I shot Dunker, and I shot Kokichi.

Good first shot. BAD SECOND SHOT. WHY NOT KILL GAMMA!!!!!!!!!!! Why

...
You are aware of what Shaz' claim means right?

[Joey_]

if anything gamma this is townslippery-ish, because he didnt understand the consequences of elbirn being a confirmed group-scum shot

[Venmar]

bump