NEWBIE 1858: MEDICAL MAFIA (fin)

[ejjinami]

Let's lynch the IC

schad said that might be his town behavior, why are you confident he's scum?

"might"
I don't feel any real scum hunting from him so I'm good lynching him. I'm fine lynching not_mafia too.

Is this because my scumhunting as amounted to you being scum?

actually, I dont really like it either. :/ your case on shat doesn't sound very convincing, you're not saying there's more to it and you seem to be quite confident in it. Like, it's not a probe cuz you're not backing off, so it's kinda hard for me to see the motivation behind it.

[ejjinami]

How is actively lurking a good idea for scum here, can you please think through what you're saying.
You're basing this off how you *think* town

should

play, even if it contradicts what scum are trying to do.

How does it contradict? I still kinda wanna know what were you thinking about there...

Scum want to orchestrate town into mislynches. They want to poke and prod and misdirect wherever possible. Someone lurking cant so that.
I'm not telling you that you should be Town reading me for being inactive, I'm just saying it doesn't make sense for me to do it if I'm scum.

ok, thx.

[ejjinami]

UNVOTE:

I'll decide my lynch target today, after classes.

[Shattiel]

@Bins gonna be V/LA for 1 week

I'm still good for an Espeo lynch
You guys should start a wagon now..

[Draynth]

Strongly dislike the random no reasoning schadd vote

[Draynth]

Schadd also started talking about how he didn't think I was town at a similar time to when ejj started scumreading me. He has had little to no actual content outside of this.
I'd be happy with a wagon on him

VOTE: Schadd

[Draynth]

2 and a half days to deadline

People need to get in here and help form an actual wagon

[Draynth]

I'd like to lynch schadd today, if you don't want to convince me why not and convince me who I should vote for.

[Not_Mafia]

Why are you starting a whole new wagon if we're so close to deadline?

[WhemeStar]

Why are you starting a whole new wagon if we're so close to deadline?

Why do you wanna lynch shattiel

[Not_Mafia]

He's scummy

[Espeonage]

So I am saying that reading in to the mentality of a newbie in rvs on such a microscopic level of determining a town joke from a scum joke is super contrived, and effectively baseless. Like you could do an anlysis of how I vote in rvs because I have 8 years of games with RVS to go through. If I didn't know anyone in the game I'd probably vote NM too because of the name, and I bet NM can attest to being voted in rvs a lot because of the username.

don't you think in case of noob scums, voting notM might be a replacement for RvS bussing? Like, I know this might be pure bullshit, but the motivation seems to be the same.
And I've been in 2 games where a noob scum was caught because of an awkward RvS vote. :/ I don’t think it’s that stupid if used on noobs only. Besides, I did almost the same thing, why didn't you scumread me for it?

I guess, but I wouldn't base a serious vote on it.

did you think shat's vote on 2cre was serious? I remember them saying it was semi-RvS, did you miss it?

and are you seriously scumreading them for the 2010 scum stuff? How confident are you? Do you have any other people you'd want to lynch today?

Yes it was quite obviously serious. And the downplaying that has happened since is a main crux of why Shat is scum. Not everyone tells the truth you know.

I am scumreading them for shit that they would have been flash lynched for back when flash lynches were more of a thing than they are now. You can't make an argument then say that the argument you made was not the argument you made. That just shouldn't fly, and it never would have in the past.

I am incredibly confident.

I could compromise on like Wheme, maybe Dray or soul if we were absolutely hitting deadline. But I am very set on Shat.

[Espeonage]

Which is why I am townreading Rei, NM, schadd, ejj, and Dra.

hey, can you explain this sentence more?

These are people I am getting town leans from because of their posting.

Can you elaborate on that?

Mostly tonal and motivation. You for example seem to want as much information out in the open as possible, thus I am townreading you. schadd is making posts I agree with most of the time, so that's a townread.

[Draynth]

Why are you starting a whole new wagon if we're so close to deadline?

Because I think he's scum and noone else is proposing a decent alternative, or at the very least I'm not convinced of any of them.

[Not_Mafia]

Who else is scum?

[Espeonage]

Let's lynch the IC

schad said that might be his town behavior, why are you confident he's scum?

"might"
I don't feel any real scum hunting from him so I'm good lynching him. I'm fine lynching not_mafia too.

Is this because my scumhunting as amounted to you being scum?

actually, I dont really like it either. :/ your case on shat doesn't sound very convincing, you're not saying there's more to it and you seem to be quite confident in it. Like, it's not a probe cuz you're not backing off, so it's kinda hard for me to see the motivation behind it.

The motivation is I'm pretty sure I am correct because the scummy sin that Shat did with the yes, no, definitely no is so crystal clear scum maneuvering that I will push this until the end of the day.

[Not_Mafia]

If Shat was town scum would have been pushing for her, Shat wagon has too much resistance to be town

[Not_Mafia]

|Votecount

1.5

|

(2)

Shattiel

—

Espeonage, Not_Mafia

(1)

ejjinami

—

WhemeStar

(1)

Not_Mafia

—

soulshade55r

(1)

Espeonage

—

Shattiel

(1)

Draynth

—

ejjinami

(1)

WhemeStar

—

Rei

(1)

soulshade55r

—

schadd_

(1)

Not Voting

—

Draynth

With

9

alive, it's

5

to lynch.

Day 1

will end in

(expired on 2018-03-30 19:48:00)

.

Shattiel is never town in this VC

[Espeonage]

I'd like to lynch schadd today, if you don't want to convince me why not and convince me who I should vote for.

Because schadd bleeds town in their analysis of posting. And you should vote Shat.

[WhemeStar]

Why are you starting a whole new wagon if we're so close to deadline?

Because I think he's scum and noone else is proposing a decent alternative, or at the very least I'm not convinced of any of them.

|Votecount

1.5

|

(2)

Shattiel

—

Espeonage, Not_Mafia

(1)

ejjinami

—

WhemeStar

(1)

Not_Mafia

—

soulshade55r

(1)

Espeonage

—

Shattiel

(1)

Draynth

—

ejjinami

(1)

WhemeStar

—

Rei

(1)

soulshade55r

—

schadd_

(1)

Not Voting

—

Draynth

With

9

alive, it's

5

to lynch.

Day 1

will end in

(expired on 2018-03-30 19:48:00)

.

Shattiel is never town in this VC

I’m blind help please

[WhemeStar]

Rip 413 wasn’t meant to be quoted

[Not_Mafia]

Shattiel is the easiest mislynch for scum, scum push for Shattiel in this scenario because otherwise the lynch could come round and hit them since basically everyone is an option with this wagon formation

[ejjinami]

Schadd also started talking about how he didn't think I was town at a similar time to when ejj started scumreading me. He has had little to no actual content outside of this.
I'd be happy with a wagon on him

VOTE: Schadd

actually, there wasn't much of a difference, but I think I remember him being a bit faster.

and I'll try to choose my lynch among the people who are already scumread.
so right now it should be: shatt/esp/schadd/dray and possibly notM for the PL.
That's also not that good.

@soul, @rei, @wheme

who do you want to lynch among them??

[Not_Mafia]

So your lynchpool is the majority of the playerlist

[Draynth]

I'd like to lynch schadd today, if you don't want to convince me why not and convince me who I should vote for.

Because schadd bleeds town in their analysis of posting. And you should vote Shat.

Could you be so kind as to show me some examples of this? I'm not saying you're wrong, just that I'd like to see it.