NEWBIE 1858: MEDICAL MAFIA (fin)

[Not_Mafia]

OKay sorry

[Draynth]

I strongly disagree.
If the doc cc's a scum claiming doc then we trade 1 for 1 (unless there's a jailkeeper in which case we actually get a free scum lynch) which HEAVILY favours town
Even a 1 for 1, losing the doc is perfectly fine for town. There's 7 players left and 1 scum to find.

[ejjinami]

ok, c'mon. stop shitting on him.
:/
it went wrong, but that's it.
and it was a really original idea...
I'm getting screwed cause of it, but it's still cool.

[Espeonage]

I get that, but doc shouldn't of came out so early even if they knew who the "Mafia who claimed their role"
they should of waited another day that's all I'm saying I was going for a risky play because I knew it was either me claiming PR, or being hung.
this way I'd bait someone to attack me, I was kinda worried of this happening.

Yeah don't do this.

You claim your role. One of the fundamental concepts of mafia is that town are expendable. As a VT it is your job to verbally argue your interpretations and vote for who you think is mafia.

[Espeonage]

Scum want a game to be obfuscated, town want things to be clear.

[soulshade55r]

ok, c'mon. stop shitting on him.
:/
it went wrong, but that's it.
and it was a really original idea...
I'm getting screwed cause of it, but it's still cool.

It's fine I shouldn't of gotten mad at you for cc-ing ^_^ I'm sorry about that.
anyway I wish everyone the best of luck

[Draynth]

Right, anyway. How likely is it that ejj is scum after all and was ccing to force the soul lynch if he is indeed a VT

[Draynth]

I'm presuming unlikely given there haven't been any other claims

[Espeonage]

However this is a good teaching moment.

The main difference is that mafiascum games have longer deadlines so snap decisions. So stuff like this will get picked up by an actual doc or incompatable role.

[soulshade55r]

However this is a good teaching moment.

The main difference is that mafiascum games have longer deadlines so snap decisions. So stuff like this will get picked up by an actual doc or incompatable role.

True, I mainly blame myself for being afk I could of done better

[ejjinami]

...actually, when shatt started tunneling me at the beginning of the game, I also kinda wanted people to start a wagon on me, so that I could soft vanilla. xD I was kinda confident I'd be able to get out of most early-mid day scumreads, but I couldn't bring myself to do anything really scummy... so it failed. :/
would it be good if I did sth like that?
I'm generally a really good target for maf, so I think the "vanilla protection" could have been beneficial.

[ejjinami]

Right, anyway. How likely is it that ejj is scum after all and was ccing to force the soul lynch if he is indeed a VT

not that it matters now, but I'm town. -_- you'll see after the night.

[Espeonage]

...actually, when shatt started tunneling me at the beginning of the game, I also kinda wanted people to start a wagon on me, so that I could soft vanilla. xD I was kinda confident I'd be able to get out of most early-mid day scumreads, but I couldn't bring myself to do anything really scummy... so it failed. :/
would it be good if I did sth like that?
I'm generally a really good target for maf, so I think the "vanilla protection" could have been beneficial.

Not really. It's incredibly hard to predict people's reads here because of the amount of fluctuation that does happen from reads.

[ejjinami]

:/
eh.

[Rei]

where do we start looking after this mess

not maf
espeonage
draynth
whemestar
schadd
shattiel

tbh out of these i am so confused about whemestar
i don't know in what world this pr hunt he's doing is townie, and I'm sure he knows that too so why would he even do that as scum I--
tbh dray seems townier now but i'm not too sure
idk about esp tbh, like i said he made a risky move for a wolf but he's experienced enough to do that
but for now i wouldnt lynch him
not maf is the same as ever, probably wouldn't lynch him rn tho

i'm looking between wheme, schadd and shat atm, i think there's at least 1 mafia there

[ejjinami]

I seriously didn't like schadd's last post. He obviously should have been aware there wasn’t much time till EoD and his catchup post made me feel he wasn’t interested enough in any of the existing lynches (except dray).
And I think it’s weird. Same as in rei's case, if I had a strong scumread on someone, it should prob make me more involved (less likely to feel no motivation). So unless schadd’s read on dray is not fake, isn't it weird he looks like he’s not interested at all? -_-

that could also imply, one of shat/esp is his scummate and he wanted to pretend not to notice them.

[ejjinami]

also, I didn't like that:

I don't believe the claim but in the absence of a cc

VOTE: Shat

feels like an excuse.
Why believe in the "no ccs" argument when not even half of the people was active
likely scum motivation

[ejjinami]

hardclaim?
[...]
Are you lying?

that needs a check.
I don't think I have to explain why is it scummy

[ejjinami]

I have quite literally never been more sure that soul is town.

Unvote, Vote: Ejj

and ok, lol... considering the mindfuck mafia should have when hearing my cc, that post is kinda townie. :I idk how much should I depend on it, cuz esp IS experienced, but rn, this vote looks kinda good.

[ejjinami]

@Espeonage
why?

Because it looks exactly like how some people (coughboonskiiescomestomindcough) fakeclaim because they have an ego complex.

1. He didn't claim immediately which is straight up bad.
2. He then didn't claim after unvoting started happening.
3. Went oh shit I'll cc and get him lynched.

Even if soul flips mafia,if ejj flips anything other than VT or mafia I will eat my fucking hat.

ok, this is town

still wanna see you eating your hat though

[ejjinami]

Rei

esp

W-sth

dray

shatt

notM

schadd

If rei flips scum, just like esp, I'll find a hat and eat it. Don't ever vote her.

and I think that's all from me. gl

[Rei]

Why is whemestar good to you?

[ejjinami]

I got townvibes from some of his previous posts and I was already townreading 2cre. I'll be home in 1-2 hours so if there's still time I guess I could try to write a bit more about it.
bins is slacking, lol xD

[Shattiel]

Rei

esp

W-sth

dray

shatt

notM

schadd

If rei flips scum, just like esp, I'll find a hat and eat it. Don't ever vote her.

and I think that's all from me. gl

I haven't backread yet but this read is crap I'm pretty sure schadd is town I'm willing to bet 80%

[Shattiel]

Don't really have anytime right now to backread