Sid Meier's Civilization 5 UPick Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Chara]

VOTE: Klazam
i'm dumb, Joey and whoever else (and marshy, suddenly) were right.

trying to read marshy's efforting here as NAI but i've ended up townreading it. mainly 3928.

[Chara]

Gamma claims he has track left right? He tracks someone then comes day 4 tells us. If he gets called a liar either gamma or his target is scum. If his story is corroborated either he and his target are both scum or they're both town.

Gamma telling the truth about using a track doesn't make him or his target town. scum are allowed to tell the truth, you know. :>

him using the track makes the most sense, though. i don't want Gamma dead anyway but lynching him before it's used isn't a good play when we have the numbers advantage.

[Chara]

if someone could please link me/explain WHY jodax claim thatd b greatly appreciated and ill answer any question they hav for me in return

on mobile so don't have a link at the moment, Joda tracked Gamma to brass on night 1, which is why she claimed. Joda's claim is why Gamma then claimed.

[Joey_]

does town have NO investigative roles? or does the red scum team have no investigative scum? id like to kno what joey thinks of this.

I thought about that a lot actually! Varsoon's flipping role cop is probably most-if-not all orange investigative role while no red flipped investigative! I also think that in some ways, the absurd amount of protectives could be the offset for the lack of investigative ? Like obviously town gets a lot of advantage if they can keep passing resolutions on town and protected players, maybe the resolutions themselves grants investigative abilities ? idk man, theres still like 3 unclaimed slot

I dont understand that part : "if someone could please link me/explain WHY jodax claim thatd b greatly appreciated and ill answer any question they hav for me in return", do you want to know why joda claimed at all or why would she as scum?

[Joey_]

Also marshy kinda towntold there, some of his line are seriously 12/10

[Joey_]

Also a Joat or inventor would fit perfectly as the "investigative" slot in the red team imo

[Joey_]

Resolutions

Spoiler:

DAY 1

[

Ban Luxury

~ Silk]

PASSES

The World Congress will monitor its effects going forward, but angry letters from textile manufacturers and sex workers alike have already started pouring in.

Effect(s) Unknown.

[

Congressional Peace-keeping

~ brassherald]

PASSES

The World Congress sends its peace-keeping forces to

brassherald

's Civilization, a move that is sure to curtail aggression in the region.

brassherald receives Protection Night 1.

DAY 2

Temporary Ban Gold

[/i]

PASSES

ivilizations around the world will monitor its effects going forward, but already it appears that the very wealthy and very religious are being hit hard by the move away from the gold standard. Effect(s) Unknown.

Temporary Ban of Ivory

 

PASSES

The World Congress is applauded for its conservation efforts, and animal rights activists begin contacting member Civilizations about expanding other initiatives around the world. No gameplay effect(s)

DAY 3

[Embargo City States]

PASSES

International Games PIDGEY

PASSES

 

Spoiler: Day 2 Options

DAY 2

1.

[Temporary Ban Gold]

[/i] (non-consec)

IMO hinting at kills in some ways, apparently you might get gold for blood. Also hinting that gold is linked to Religion and that Religious Gold is especially bad.

2.

[Temporary Ban Ivory]

(non-consec)

Saying that it lasted too long and that it's one of the worst thing humanity is doing to the nature. Elephant and rhinos are endangered (Africa?)

3.

[Temporary Ban Furs]

(non-consec)

2 Italian and 1 American clothing brands listed implying they are the leaders in the fur trade. Banning Furs can help protect those animals that are close to extinction, none animal are hinted.

4.

[Embargo Nation]

(non-consec, cannot self assign delegates)

Implies that the World Congress is going to act on said Nation and that is more than just denunciation.

5.

[Embargo City States]

(permanent, can be repealed)

This one is actually interesting. it says that the City States are really small and that they makes the global politics more complex and that it can interfere with the politic of the others bigger and powerful civilisation. IMO this could mean that there is 3p players with 3P win-con and Town win con. This one could shut-down their 3p win-con, in that way it would make the Global Politics simpler between the bigger and more powerful civilisations (Mafia and Town ?)

6.

Protection of Natural Wonders

(permanent, can be repealed)

 
Hinted to be linked to Culture (?). It says that we should protect the Cultural Natural Wonders around the world. Maybe it will affect everyone ?

7.

Recognition of World Wonders

(permanent, can be repealed)

In the same ways, it says that there is a Word Wonder in each and every Civ, might affect everyone ?

8.

Funding Arts

(non-consec)

It says that Art in general and around the world will get a boost and will flourish. The Resolution is to make or oppose the making of a program about art in every Civ.

9.

Funding Science

(non-consec, can self assign delegates)

This one is interesting too because it's not what i thought it was before reading the description myself.
Basically it says the the Science in general, around the world, will get a boost and will flourish. But, the resolution is about supporting or opposiong 1 Civ to talk about making a program about science in their own Civ. So this might actually boost Science scum even if we target the IC.

Spoiler: Day 3 Options

1.

[Embargo Nation]

(non-consec, cannot self assign delegates)

2.

[Embargo City States]

(permanent, can be repealed)

3.

Protection of Natural Wonders

(permanent, can be repealed)

 

4.

Recognition of World Wonders

(permanent, can be repealed)

5.

International Games Nation

(consec, can self-assign delegates)

 

***This one seems complicated, i prefer to wait for the IC to give me his thoughts! But basically you can nominate a player who will then gain some kind of advantage, like abilities? unsure

6.

SECRETO PEPITO

 

@BRASS im not sure if this one is a good idea to out as it might give info to mefias!!!

Gamestate 3.0

Alive

14/21

Spoiler:

Brassherald
Innocent Child
▓▓▓▓
Joey	Chara
Commuter	?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Kiana Kaslana	Bujaber	Gamma Emerald	Klazam
VT	VT	JOAT	?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Shaziro	Pidgey	Jodaxq
Vig or SK	Catholic Spreader ?	Self Random Inventor
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ? ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Almost50	Marshy	Ranmaru	Titus
Taoism Spreader	Protestant Spreader ?	?	Non-Consec Doc
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ? ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓

Dead

7/21

Spoiler:

Elbirn	Kokichi Oma	ActionDan	NeroCain
Weak Permanent BG	Neihborizer	VT	JK
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓
Varsoon
Role Cop
▓▓▓▓
Creature	Dunkerdoodles
Role Blocker	Pagan Spreader
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓

Spoiler: My reads

[

Brassherald
Innocent Child
▓▓▓▓
Joey	Chara
Commuter	?
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Kiana Kaslana	Bujaber	Gamma Emerald	Klazam
VT	VT	JOAT	?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Shaziro	Pidgey	Jodaxq
Vig or SK	Catholic Spreader	Self Random Inventor
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Almost50	Marshy	Ranmaru	Titus
Taoism Spreader	Protestant Spreader	?	Non-Consec Doc
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓

Changes : Added Titus claim, added resolutions d3, added marshy read

[brassherald]

If we really only have 3 people with no claims, let's just get the claims. I would say start with Caesar, but he hasn't been here and I'm guessing he will return claiming to be about to catch up after the next prod. So, Klazam first.

[Joey_]

@BRASS : we should seriously ask both Ceasar and klazam to hardclaim, chara's claim is not needed

[Joey_]

dude brass you fucking bamboozled me there

[Joey_]

FTR i dont think buba can be red mafia ever here, if he was red scum he would never cc VT as lone mafia, in case the scenario where theres actually a single VT in the game is true, he would put himself in autoloss

[Almost50]

I don't feel good about the lynch on Caesar, although -tbh- I didn't like ranmaru's absence and I'm liking the replacement's play even less.

marshy has called several rimes for his own vig. :vig me .. vig me" is all he's about, which leads me to believe he might be scum with a BP or with a fellow protector.

I thus want to lynch between Titus/marshy, and as there's a wagon on Titus and not on marshy I'm staying put.

@marshy: How about we lynch you instead of vig you? And if you flip Town we vig Gamma. Would that suit you still??

what in the fuck?

a50 has officially outed himself as the scummiest rolespreader. i actually start giving a shit about the game and then he says all i did was say vig me instead of dialoging with me or considering my reads. kill him sometime in this game if yall are really that confident in a religion holding scum

i hav to look into gamma more and see if hes just terrible town. ill figure out more stuff by deadline

i lold. more scum are gonna come into this thread and shit on me so watch for that too

That's all clever and cute and dandy and all that fancy stuff.

Now answer the coloured and bolded, please.

[Venmar]

Votecount 3.3

[0] Kiana Kaslana:

[0] brassherald:

[0] Bujaber:

[0] Chara:

[1]

Gamma Emerald:

Titus

[3]

Klazam:

Kiana Kaslana, Marshy, Chara

[3]

Titus:

Gamma Emerald, Almost50, BuJaber

[0] Shaziro:

[0] Joey_:

[0] pidgey:

[0] jodaxq:

[0] Almost50:

[0] marshy:

[4]

Caesar Wills It:

Jodaxq, Shaziro, Brassherald, Klazam

Not Voting

• Joey_, pidgey, Caesar Wills It

Deadline

• In (expired on 2018-04-10 09:00:00)
  
• Tuesday, April 10th @9:00am PST

Mod Notes:

• With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch.

[brassherald]

I could have sworn I did this.

VOTE: Caesar

[Venmar]

I could have sworn I did this.

VOTE: Caesar

You have sworn correctly
(Fixed)

[Gamma Emerald]

also joda is an inventor, not a full tracker, get with the times, marshy

an inventor AND a joat?

thats even better dude. prolly scum between the two then

VOTE: jodaxq

I don't feel good about the lynch on Caesar, although -tbh- I didn't like ranmaru's absence and I'm liking the replacement's play even less.

marshy has called several rimes for his own vig. :vig me .. vig me" is all he's about, which leads me to believe he might be scum with a BP or with a fellow protector.

I thus want to lynch between Titus/marshy, and as there's a wagon on Titus and not on marshy I'm staying put.

@marshy: How about we lynch you instead of vig you? And if you flip Town we vig Gamma. Would that suit you still??

what in the fuck?

a50 has officially outed himself as the scummiest rolespreader. i actually start giving a shit about the game and then he says all i did was say vig me instead of dialoging with me or considering my reads. kill him sometime in this game if yall are really that confident in a religion holding scum

i hav to look into gamma more and see if hes just terrible town. ill figure out more stuff by deadline

i lold. more scum are gonna come into this thread and shit on me so watch for that too

dude you really seem to be pushing an agenda, what the fuck dude if you're town stop taking your reads off a script and do some critical thinking
JOAT and inventor are not fucking CCs. And that's quite the over-reaction to A50's suspicion of your vig request, that just destroys the entire read on him?

[Gamma Emerald]

varsoon too and whoever the other red guy was

I can tell you Creature doesn't hardbus

[Gamma Emerald]

FTR i dont think buba can be red mafia ever here, if he was red scum he would never cc VT as lone mafia, in case the scenario where theres actually a single VT in the game is true, he would put himself in autoloss

I think him ccing vt is honestly a genuine town play. Like that take some serious balls as scum to pull off in this type of game.

[BuJaber]

Gamma claims he has track left right? He tracks someone then comes day 4 tells us. If he gets called a liar either gamma or his target is scum. If his story is corroborated either he and his target are both scum or they're both town.

Gamma telling the truth about using a track doesn't make him or his target town. scum are allowed to tell the truth, you know. :>

him using the track makes the most sense, though. i don't want Gamma dead anyway but lynching him before it's used isn't a good play when we have the numbers advantage.

Ah I see. You are thinking he could be scum JOAT.

Imo that is not a possibility. He is either town JOAT or scum something else. I don't think scum JOAT does that fake watcher claim then changes his claim. Also it comes back to why would scum watch protected by resolutiom brass. Sane town protectives would not waste their shot on brass night 1. So he wasn't gonna catch any protectives if he was watching for that.

So since I don't think he is scum JOAT his track absolutely tells us his/his targets alignment as per the scenarios I laid out.

[Joey_]

FTR i dont think buba can be red mafia ever here, if he was red scum he would never cc VT as lone mafia, in case the scenario where theres actually a single VT in the game is true, he would put himself in autoloss

I think him ccing vt is honestly a genuine town play. Like that take some serious balls as scum to pull off in this type of game.

i know man but like i think mechanically hes cleared of RED but i hardtownread him still

[Joey_]

Also btw ranmaru posted a lot in other games and that is after claiming he would care about this game. Ceasar also said that he would post more but he didnt, hes also posting in games on his other accs so

VOTE: ceasar

[BuJaber]

His reaction to being called out for roleplaying seems off too. Like I understand it to some extent but if you are replacing into a game and get a town PM then you would suck it up and listen to town. Seems he got pissed off and stopped posting way too quickly for him to be town. Does seem like both ran and he have just given up.

VOTE: Ceasar

[Klazam]

you got my claim, so lol.

Casear wagon is goodwagon, keep it going.

[Joey_]

you got my claim, so lol.

Casear wagon is goodwagon, keep it going.

you didnt hardclaim

[Klazam]

And i said that's all youre getting from me.

lynch me for that if you wish, dont care.

Would like casear to go first, on principle, though.