Turn of Camn ~FIN~

[Firebringer]

I’d personally recruit Elli for scum just so I don’t have to deal with Town him tbh

You could make that argument but i doubt Pine knows Ellis rep

I think Pine does

[Pine]

Alright, you fuckers.

It's GO TIME.

In keeping with the precedent established with last year's precedent, I have devised a new avatar to haunt your nightmares!



A little grainy when blown up, but

FEAR THE EVIL PINE

Let's get this shit started![/align]

[BBmolla]

pine are you scum

[mastina]

You’ve already destroyed all credence you had with the gambit

What

gambit?

Also unless you identify what I’m doing then I’m calling you on your shit

Okay for a start.
This is you displaying the thing which you THINK I am looking for. You think I am looking for you to 1: not be buddying me, and 2: for you to sort me early. I can say that, because that is what you expect me to be basing my read on you off of. That is, more or less, what I have shared when explaining my Ginngie reading methodology, and you are in fact doing that.

What you're NOT doing is what

I am actually expecting you to do

. Which is something that you have shown yourself to do in your towngame and which is utterly absent from your scumgame. It is NOT something you know about as far as I am aware, but I'm not sure how to explain it to others without giving it away. It's basically a mindset, an approach, a way of going about things and handling the game. You are playing to my scum book, which is still more or less my scumplay, rather than your town book, which has diverged from mine.

[Parama]

VOTE: Firebringer

i haven't read any of the thread since day start

[Pine]

I’d personally recruit Elli for scum just so I don’t have to deal with Town him tbh

You could make that argument but i doubt Pine knows Ellis rep

I think Pine does

Who is this 'Ellibereth'?

PE: ObviestTown that ever ObvTowned, BB.

[mastina]

Can mastina I 1v1

Most likely?

Yes.

VOTE: Ginngie.

[Mathdino]

how exactly does the guilty child mechanic actually affect the game literally at all

i have never seen a set of skilled players lynch based on things that confscum say after they're confscum

[Firebringer]

how exactly does the guilty child mechanic actually affect the game literally at all

i have never seen a set of skilled players lynch based on things that confscum say after they're confscum

It did in last round of this lol

[Ginngie]

Can mastina I 1v1

Most likely?

Yes.

VOTE: Ginngie.

I’m confused

How are you not townreading me while also reading page 5?

[Mathdino]

reading larges is dangerous for my health
still surprised that people did that

can't we just play pretending that guilty child is on our ignore list

this setup should be townsided with combination of
1. choose your side meta (props to LLD for reminding everyone of this beautiful thing)
2. innocent child is supposed to be the counterbalance to guilty child but it's extremely +town EV while pine is 0 EV
3. NSG is basically an innocent child as well, along with others depending on what roles alisae assigned them personally

[mastina]

Ginngie is doing something this game she absolutely should not be doing if she is town, and doing something which is ABSOLUTELY exactly how she would be going about things as scum.

There's a minor caveat, in that she is doing something which she would in fact do as town. So if you think this is soulread levels of confidence, it's not. But she is in fact a quite serious scumread.

this does not a scumread make
this is actually a fantastic argument that ginngie doing that is NAI

No.

The thing in the first paragraph, which is stronger.
Is not the thing in the second paragraph, which is weaker.
They are two different things.

Two different metrics by which to read Ginngie. Normally, they work in tandem, no problem! The second which Ginngie is more or less doing, is the sorting me. (This is not a good way to describe it, but I can't think of a better way of going about that.) The first, however, is a stronger method of sorting Ginngie...one which she

is not displaying

. In fact, she's displaying the opposite.

Ginngie this game is playing to my scum meta. She is doing one particular thing which is textbook scumastina play, a trick she stole from me.
She is not playing this game to her town meta...which has diverged from my town meta. She has not done the things which she does when she's town that are unique to her.

[Firebringer]

reading larges is dangerous for my health
still surprised that people did that

can't we just play pretending that guilty child is on our ignore list

this setup should be townsided with combination of
1. choose your side meta (props to LLD for reminding everyone of this beautiful thing)
2. innocent child is supposed to be the counterbalance to guilty child but it's extremely +town EV while pine is 0 EV
3. NSG is basically an innocent child as well, along with others depending on what roles alisae assigned them personally

We can try but lol

There is a reason for Pines title

[Ginngie]

You’ve already destroyed all credence you had with the gambit

What

gambit?

Also unless you identify what I’m doing then I’m calling you on your shit

Okay for a start.
This is you displaying the thing which you THINK I am looking for. You think I am looking for you to 1: not be buddying me, and 2: for you to sort me early. I can say that, because that is what you expect me to be basing my read on you off of. That is, more or less, what I have shared when explaining my Ginngie reading methodology, and you are in fact doing that.

What you're NOT doing is what

I am actually expecting you to do

. Which is something that you have shown yourself to do in your towngame and which is utterly absent from your scumgame. It is NOT something you know about as far as I am aware, but I'm not sure how to explain it to others without giving it away. It's basically a mindset, an approach, a way of going about things and handling the game. You are playing to my scum book, which is still more or less my scumplay, rather than your town book, which has diverged from mine.

The only thing i know i did was “destroy your credence” line which i got from Nachho when I asked him how to combat you when I’m scum you’re town. He said it doesn’t matter how right you are, once no one cares about your posts, i don’t have to worry

Doing that was me being cheeky and fucking with you

I don’t think you realize how hyper aware i can be

[Pine]

how exactly does the guilty child mechanic actually affect the game literally at all

i have never seen a set of skilled players lynch based on things that confscum say after they're confscum

Dude I totally fucked with Town's head last game. The idea actually came from Faraday's

A Feast For Crows

mafia back in the day, with Zoraster as confirmed scum treestump Littlefinger from gamestart.

Mastina gambit is obvious.

Ginngie obviously calling herself Town is obv too.

[mastina]

What if i told you I’m doing the scum thing on purpose tonfuck with you?

Then you'd be able to name what the scum thing is,

accurately

. And equally as accurately, the town thing, along with a reasonable explanation for why it hasn't shown up this game.

There is in fact one reason I'd buy--but ONLY one.

[Mathdino]

reading larges is dangerous for my health
still surprised that people did that

can't we just play pretending that guilty child is on our ignore list

this setup should be townsided with combination of
1. choose your side meta (props to LLD for reminding everyone of this beautiful thing)
2. innocent child is supposed to be the counterbalance to guilty child but it's extremely +town EV while pine is 0 EV
3. NSG is basically an innocent child as well, along with others depending on what roles alisae assigned them personally

We can try but lol

There is a reason for Pines title

like that's actually idiotic

i beat scum pine literally by ignoring his bullshit about self-meta (HE NEVER BUSSES UNLESS HE DOES, GUYS) and ignoring everything he said once he was confscum to me

Edit: oh wow it looks like pine made a post, guess i'm not reading that

[mastina]

Mastina has reasons behind everything she does and I 100% believe she’s going for some “too scummy to be scum” gambit instead of just scumhunting as town mastina would be doing now.

I have been scumhunting!

See if you can pick up where!

[mastina]

bullshit fence sitting and saying Ginngie is being anti town when all of mastinas early posting are self votes.

What.
My stance on Ginngie is anything but a fencesit. I wasn't calling her anti-town. I was calling her

scum

.

[Pine]

Well then, time to kill Math and keep the dum-dums who pay attention to me alive.

VOTE: Mathdino

[mastina]

hot take. mastina/ginngie/bbmolla are all town.

Hot take.
The moment anyone in there flips scum, powerfuckinglynch implosion.

[northsidegal]

hey math, did you ever read open 701?

[Mathdino]

hey math, did you ever read open 701?

no, reading larges is dangerous for my health

i read your ISO, like two others, and the entire mafia PT, but that was it

[Firebringer]

Well mathdino is town

[Pine]

Seriously, let's burn Math in a fire.

WHO'S IN?