Turn of Camn ~FIN~

[Parama]

hey mulch i know you're mafia but can you read the thread & then vote ginnigie with me thx

[northsidegal]

i don't actually know how to code things, i just edited a few lines from aster's code

[Mulch]

i agree that mathdino wanting to lynch ellibereth day one is terrible

Nah

It’s fine

It probably wins us the game


But let’s let elli use their tell machine first XD

[mastina]

OMG CAN WE POLICY LYNCH BOTH MASTINA

AND

GINNGIE IF THEY KEEP TALKING TO PINE

I only talk to Pine when it's something I find worthy of commenting on, same as with any other player. I otherwise ignore him.

Quoting him and talking about stuff not relevant to the game's fine. Plus, sometimes, a quote he gives is a good conduit for me to talk about something I was more or less going to do anyway, just with a convenient frame of reference. (More or less, "Oh yeah, that reminds me, *thing*.)

I am going to keep my reads a little bit to myself for a ~short~ time.

Not entirely; please share with your masonbuddy, and just make it clear that they aren't to share those. It helps.

[mastina]

VOTE: LLD
I just saw their post where They were like “how many do I need to flip town”
And was like
Ding ding found a scum XxD

Should I be concerned that--while his thoughts might not be EXACTLY mine--Mulch has more or less the same train of thought as me?

[Mulch]

Mastina feels like town!mastina

Not lynching them

(Elaboration is that their posts feel transparently manipulative as scum)

Actually going to 90%+ town them

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[Mulch]

LLD's posts are fake aggresive and are making way to much fucking sense for them to be town

I might tunnel them

[Mulch]

I'm just going to town!confirm Aristophanes right now beause Pine isn't a fucking idiot (someone correct me if wrong)



My oh my it feels good to be on the opposite side of these townsinded as fuck alignment non random games

[mastina]

Centipede Syndrome (Ellibereth + Chara)
Northsidegal
Aristophanes
kuuhaku (Kiana Kaslana + Shiro)

Mulch
DrippingGoofball
BBmolla
shos
Firebringer
MariaR
xRECKONERx

Parama
Implosion

Lady Lambdadelta

Mathdino
Ginngie

With the caveat that Firebringer, Maria, and Reck aren't solid reads and that Parama/implosion are conditional scumreads.

[Parama]

yeah i do bus a lot so that's fair

[Mathdino]

i'm gonna be completely honest here and say i don't give a fuck if she's town

like realtalk for a second here

there are basically 2 players total that i respect when self-voting as town (assuming the mechanics aren't wonky, i.e. vengeful or short deadline)

and both of them have hilariously good reads directly after the self-vote. like HILARIOUSLY good. one does it to (successfully) WIFOM the scum

but those players are also pretty well recognised as messes of AtE and not something newbies should aspire to

mastina has published by far the most articles on mafia theory. like i actually find it difficult to write articles around stuff that mastina has already ranted for 5 pages about. when people read up on how to play mafia, they are by far most likely to run into mastina.

So fuck self-voters. And fuck them even more when they're incredibly prominent members of the community with dedicated schools of townplay.

We're lynching mastina D1 or D2. Take your pick.

[Mulch]

i'm gonna be completely honest here and say i don't give a fuck if she's town

like realtalk for a second here

there are basically 2 players total that i respect when self-voting as town (assuming the mechanics aren't wonky, i.e. vengeful or short deadline)

and both of them have hilariously good reads directly after the self-vote. like HILARIOUSLY good. one does it to (successfully) WIFOM the scum

but those players are also pretty well recognised as messes of AtE and not something newbies should aspire to

mastina has published by far the most articles on mafia theory. like i actually find it difficult to write articles around stuff that mastina has already ranted for 5 pages about. when people read up on how to play mafia, they are by far most likely to run into mastina.

So fuck self-voters. And fuck them even more when they're incredibly prominent members of the community with dedicated schools of townplay.

We're lynching mastina D1 or D2. Take your pick.

VOTE: Mathdino

Wolfy as fuck

Not the fact that you are pushing a policy lynch, the tone behind it. It's fake as hell

Thoughts on LLD?

[Ginngie]

okay I won my match lmao

I'm a god

[Mulch]

okay I won my match lmao

I'm a god

Ginnigie, when you wolf can people smell your fear?

[mastina]

I'm just going to town!confirm Aristophanes right now beause Pine isn't a fucking idiot (someone correct me if wrong)

No, that's actually EXACTLY why Aristophanes is where he is on my readslist. He's locktown for specifically this reason.

Pine will make pseudo-random picks.
Pine will make wifom picks.
But Pine's modus operandi is still

strategic

picks. His wifom picks are still strategically good; his pseudo-random picks he still does cursory research into. And he has first-hand experience from last game no less on why picking Aristophanes is a

hilariously stupid option

. No amount of wifom makes up for the fact that Aristophanes can't scum worth a damn.

[Ginngie]

OMG CAN WE POLICY LYNCH BOTH MASTINA AND GINNGIE IF THEY KEEP TALKING TO PINE

We are both from the original game and fond of Pine

we can talk all we want, it's your choice to bitch about it

[Mulch]

Firebringer is town.

This is way too scummy to be scum

I'm locking this as town, definitely not a day 1 lynch

No idea who this is, so hopefully I'm not fucking myself rn

[Mathdino]

I'm just going to town!confirm Aristophanes right now beause Pine isn't a fucking idiot (someone correct me if wrong)

My oh my it feels good to be on the opposite side of these townsinded as fuck alignment non random games

i mean

the key is to not do exactly what everyone expects you to do lol
and to do something just slightly less optimal than maximum

also someone raised a good point in that pine didn't have access to ALL his top picks. first pick was most likely either

Pine: mastina
Alisae: Ellibereth, X, X (nothing matters at this point tbh

or
Pine: Ellibereth
Alisae: {good scum player}, {good town player}, etc

[Parama]

i'd policy lynch math for voting mastina before i policy lynched mastina for self-voting

p-edit: wow. someone who doesn't know dgb, that's actually kinda adorable

[mastina]

VOTE: Mathdino
Wolfy as fuck
Not the fact that you are pushing a policy lynch, the tone behind it. It's fake as hell

Won't hear me arguing!

[Ginngie]

I want us to first agree on two things
Both conditionals to set up an argument to be made

You have my attention.

Okay

The mods are Alisae, and camn vs Pine picking and stuff

Pine has first pick, and then 5th

They alternate picks right?

that's the first conditional

Do you agree?

[mastina]

Ginnigie, when you wolf can people smell your fear?

Traditionally? Yes. This fear is more or less what Ginngie thinks I am looking for.
It is not what I am actually looking for because of ~reasons~.

[Parama]

anyways i'mma go close my mafiascum tab now, let me know when ginnigie is lynched & i'll check the thread again

god look at this compulsive liar

[Mulch]

i feel like we're already super close to solving the game and it's day 1

Add that to the mountain of power roles we're bound to have because MS and I think there's no chance we lose

[Mathdino]

i'm gonna be completely honest here and say i don't give a fuck if she's town

like realtalk for a second here

there are basically 2 players total that i respect when self-voting as town (assuming the mechanics aren't wonky, i.e. vengeful or short deadline)

and both of them have hilariously good reads directly after the self-vote. like HILARIOUSLY good. one does it to (successfully) WIFOM the scum

but those players are also pretty well recognised as messes of AtE and not something newbies should aspire to

mastina has published by far the most articles on mafia theory. like i actually find it difficult to write articles around stuff that mastina has already ranted for 5 pages about. when people read up on how to play mafia, they are by far most likely to run into mastina.

So fuck self-voters. And fuck them even more when they're incredibly prominent members of the community with dedicated schools of townplay.

We're lynching mastina D1 or D2. Take your pick.

VOTE: Mathdino

Wolfy as fuck

Not the fact that you are pushing a policy lynch, the tone behind it. It's fake as hell

Thoughts on LLD?

glad you liked my (admittedly mostly fabricated) speech

it's fake because i don't actually think mastina is more scum-indicative than normal

like it's hard to argue that lynching town-mastina is +town EV
(granted, nothing matters if ellitown anyway)

but i'm also aware that she's hard to lynch

i hereby pledge to reenact political campaign ads in order to get mastina lynched for this absolute fuckery

because this is a major element of declining self meta
which i recognise that you don't recognise but whatever

it's morning in mafiascum