VARSOON VARIETY HOUR : GAME SCRAPPED

[Iconeum]

Hi could give you something big or little instead i prese t you with a riddle
Whqt is the actual name of this mafia game

Asked about jn game guesses and sent in some answers

[Dunnstral]

UNDERTALE MAFIA

[Skybird]

I'm very pissed that MC faked the guilty. If A50 flips town, my vote's on them tomorrow. I agree with RR, everyone stopped scum hunting/contributing to the game after the guilty claim. How in the world was that the right thing to do? Even if MC is somehow magically right I won't be able to trust anything they say after this.

[Purple Heart]

I'm having a tough time seeing

Maid Cafe

being any part aligned

Almost50/Baku

or

Gamma/Venmar

, so if someone has a differing view, explain it to me.

Also, the fake guilty sucks, and I want a strong explanation for it, but there are multiple people I find more likely to flip red than him. I didn't like

Almost50's

response to his wagon throughout the day, and at this point, his acceptance of being little to nothing in terms of help has only exacerbated my light scumread of him.

"Oh shit, did

Taly

do a 180? He townread

Almost50

before!"

No scum, I had a conflicting, weaktown read with

Almost50

throughout this day and I feel, and concluded that

Almost50

leading to the ending of D1, that he is most likely scum and this outweighs the AtE he has displayed.

VOTE: Almost50

I'm a double voter, yo.
I'm also fed up with this, so I want to be flipped so you guys may finally see the light. It's not like you're magically going to switch to someone else with a stated/claimed guilty on me (and I say stated/claimed because I really don't know if it's totally fake or if there's a redirector/framer kind of role in play).

What was the reason of the fake self-hammer and fake-claim?

Why vote yourself in the first place?

Do not tell me that that was

SOLELY

to try and prove that you were right, because if you're town, you're borderline going against your alignment.

i'm going to bed. this day was a waste. sorry.

pedit: why did you feel the need to tell me it all if not to preemptively cover yourself when Almost flips town?

This day will be wasted if

Almost50

is hammered before our next 6 hours is up, and

Iconeum

doesn't use my guesses:

Preferably these ones:

1)

Varsoon Variety Hour

2)

Relics of Magic

3)

Universal Planewars

4)

Illusion Mafia

5)

Underground Mafia

Because I think these are my best guesses, and I'll be happy if

Iconeum

uses them in the event that they are all wrong and my gut sucks.

Hi could give you something big or little instead i prese t you with a riddle
Whqt is the actual name of this mafia game

Asked about jn game guesses and sent in some answers

Were any of the 5 I listed above the ones you guessed?

~~~

We're 6 hours from the deadline, we are riding this shit to it. I'm holding people to this

I refuse to let us waste a week, we prolonged it for the puzzle, and we will do that until we finish the puzzle or we fail trying.

~~~

Gamma

, I have another assignment for you:

1)

What is your read on Almost50 BEFORE and AFTER your vote/unvote on him?

2)

Why did you vote and unvote Almost50 after he fake self-hammered?

3)

Think of at least 3 possible names for this game. Be creative.

4)

Thoughts on

Baku/Venmar

?

5)

Why is it OK to end the day before

Iconeum

finishes his puzzle?

~ Taly

[Almost50]

What was the reason of the fake self-hammer and fake-claim?

Instead of asking what the reason was you should be asking what the result was. The result is you all know it's a

FAKE GUILTY

. So we now know there's not redirector/busdriver/framer, at the very least.

As for why vote myself? I am bored and I don't just replace out from games I willingly sign up to. If I'm not having fun playing the game I'll find a way to make me have fun still through some crazy play. I am not claiming it was planned, as I'm not even following the game the way I do when I take games seriously, but it was funny to have you all on your toes for some time.

To be honest, I didn't even think of it when I saw Gamma voted me, but then when I saw Cerb asking him to unvote it occurred to me to mess with you all and have a chuckle.

And FTR, I don't even mind fake guilties myself. What I do object to is senseless tunneling. Faking a guilty for reaction tests is fine (well, sometimes) but driving it up all the way until it results in an inevitable lynch is no fun at all.

I want you to imagine yourself in my shoes for a minute. You are being called a liar all game long. You are being framed in every possible way and every possible trick in the book is being used against you. And then someone comes up with a guilty on you which you know for a fact isn't true.

Would you have stayed in the game?

I'd bet real money that you wouldn't. So, please don't blame me for trying to have some fun here rather than make your lives miserable (as well as the life of the replace in)

[Purple Heart]

Guess I have a lot of work to do tomorrow.
/me sigh

[Purple Heart]

I'm still defending Bee btw.

[Almost50]

Do not tell me that that was SOLELY to try and prove that you were right, because if you're town, you're borderline going against your alignment.

I wasn't even trying that. All I wanted was to laugh at you all getting alerted by the fake hammer. The "being right" part was an unexpected side effect.

I mean. there's no way I would have expected that outcome anyway. I wasn't sure if that was the doing of a 3rd person or not. I would no have known they'd actually try to come clean at that time after having sat on it for what? 2 weeks??

And you really want to put the blame on the person who "fake" hammered, and not the person who "fake"

guiltied

them??

[Purple Heart]

We have a guilty on A50 I am not dealing with that.

~B

FIRST OFF, IF YOU THOUGHT THE GUILTY WAS ANYTHING BUT FAKE, YOU ARE INCOMPETENT AND AS SUCH, ARE BEING EXTREMELY UNREASONABLE

why?
Because I knew the guilty was fake as soon as I saw it?
Why?
Because Bee to have gotten a random daycop guilty in the middle of the day makes 0 fucking sense.
And I still followed it because?
I saw no reason not to follow it and in general I trust Bee, so I am going to follow it.

Plus, these posts most likely win the game.

I don't particularly care enough about ICing Chara I think we lose more by stalling out the day for another 6 irl days.

Especially given a few people completing a puzzle literally just outs them as scum if this is a fake claim so I don't think it ever is?


Like

Literally 100% of the time these are true.
A50 = Scum
Baku = Scum
Gamma = Scum

Venmar is probably just the last scum in this team.

I am going to go slow for a bit I have new things to say as well I just dwant to take this piece by piece.

We have a guilty on A50 and
A50 claiming to save Baku makes it highly likely Baku is scum since I was literally pushing Baku as though I had a guilty.
In addition them creating there hoods very close to EoD means they knew the day was ending

So playwise I take issue with them as well but does anyone not just understand these reasons?

Gamma hasnt really been playing to his town game at all.
He wad disconnected all of day 1, mainly the same thing day 2.

Night 1 he chose to track {A50, Chara, Me, Bronya} which really just feels like him claiming 3 of his scum tracks. Generally he has just ignored or treated his targets as town which I think is a disconnect from a player who submitted those actions. And him explaining his role was dodgy af.
(I am not sure how the above is not enough he simply just isnt playing like town gamma and has non sensical actions.)

In addition Varsoon is a mod who will check synergies and make sure his game just isnt strictly broken. Varsoon would easily miss checking to see if scum and town roles are broken together while designing multiple games over night.

Our pacifist role is we can target 5 people and check to see if they preformed an action night 1. Gamma can claim before us so there isnt overlap so us + Gamma can check like 9 different slots + ourselves which is 11/15 slots. So i dont really think us and Gamma coexist mechanically since we basically so the same thing and we do it over way too many slots in addition to the vast amount of play based reasons that make him scum 100% of the time.

And after catching 3 scum in a row just lynch venmar since i am too lazy to explain that read

Like, the game is over.
Baku stopped even fighting Bee's read on him after that.
Gamma is the only one that is still trying because he thinks he is irrelevant but tbh I'm at the point of literally making it so it is impossible to read his posts sitewide because I fucking hate him and I am tired of reading posts where he thinks he actually has a chance because its not even funny lolcatting and funny memes.

[Purple Heart]

Ya know what
Fuck it
If A50 is town Creature can go back in the wolf pool for lurking out.
{Creature/A50, Baku, Gamma, Venmar}

Game Over

So we are not
Fucking policy lynching bee
The person who literally won the game
Because he faked a guilty
That is stupid
And you are stupid for suggesting so.

[Purple Heart]

Like now I have to fucking try now because people want to mislynch Bee.
Fuck
All
Of
You

[Purple Heart]

What was the reason of the fake self-hammer and fake-claim?

Instead of asking what the reason was you should be asking what the result was. The result is you all know it's a

FAKE GUILTY

. So we now know there's not redirector/busdriver/framer, at the very least.

As for why vote myself? I am bored and I don't just replace out from games I willingly sign up to. If I'm not having fun playing the game I'll find a way to make me have fun still through some crazy play. I am not claiming it was planned, as I'm not even following the game the way I do when I take games seriously, but it was funny to have you all on your toes for some time.

To be honest, I didn't even think of it when I saw Gamma voted me, but then when I saw Cerb asking him to unvote it occurred to me to mess with you all and have a chuckle.

And FTR, I don't even mind fake guilties myself. What I do object to is senseless tunneling. Faking a guilty for reaction tests is fine (well, sometimes) but driving it up all the way until it results in an inevitable lynch is no fun at all.

I want you to imagine yourself in my shoes for a minute. You are being called a liar all game long. You are being framed in every possible way and every possible trick in the book is being used against you. And then someone comes up with a guilty on you which you know for a fact isn't true.

Would you have stayed in the game?

I'd bet real money that you wouldn't. So, please don't blame me for trying to have some fun here rather than make your lives miserable (as well as the life of the replace in)

Meh, I haven't replaced out yet solely because of my position in a game. I usually just 1v1 people and vote half the playerlist if I'm put in a corner.

But that's not the point.

I don't know why you'd vote yourself, still? If it was nothing but to get a rise out of the playerlist, why do you keep it on?

Do not tell me that that was SOLELY to try and prove that you were right, because if you're town, you're borderline going against your alignment.

I wasn't even trying that. All I wanted was to laugh at you all getting alerted by the fake hammer. The "being right" part was an unexpected side effect.

I mean. there's no way I would have expected that outcome anyway. I wasn't sure if that was the doing of a 3rd person or not. I would no have known they'd actually try to come clean at that time after having sat on it for what? 2 weeks??

And you really want to put the blame on the person who "fake" hammered, and not the person who "fake"

guiltied

them??

I never said I blamed you for anything.

I'm saying that your responses to the votes and wagon have not helped my read on you, or any possible case against you outside of the guilty.

I don't want you to be angry or bitter towards this game on a personal level because I think you're very intelligent, and I like your presence in the game, regardless of how I view your alignment or play. I'm sorry if you're genuinely tired of playing this game and have absolutely no will to try and bring up your argument on someone, and if I'm wrong in voting and your alignment, then I doubly apologize.

But your responses don't come across to me as town when faced with adversity.

~ Taly

[Purple Heart]

Also FYI, this was originally created by Aster here
You just have to use tampermonkey to get it to function. I'm also going to try to look into it being possible to add more users to it because there are TONS of people I would love to not have to read their posts globally.

Code: Select all

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// @name          Mafiascum: Improved Foes List that works in mafia forums
// @namespace     https://www.mafiascum.net/
// @description   Helps blacklist all you want to your desire
// @include       https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?*
// @version       1.0
// ==/UserScript==

try {
   let thread = document.getElementById("page-body");
   let posts = thread.getElementsByClassName("post");
   for(var i=0;i<posts.length;i++) {
      let post = posts[i];
      let profile = post.getElementsByClassName("postprofile")[0];
      let usernameLink = profile.getElementsByTagName("a")[0];
      let username = usernameLink.text;
      if(username == "Gamma Emerald") {
         let inner = post.getElementsByClassName("inner")[0];
         inner.innerText = "I NO LONGER HAVE TO READ YOUR POSTS THANK GOD";
      }
   }
} catch(e) {
   // Do nothing.
}

[Purple Heart]

That won't solve the issue that I have to read his posts on my Ipad but regardless that is how I feel.

[Bronya Zaychik]

Purple Heart is town.

[Almost50]

If it was nothing but to get a rise out of the playerlist, why do you keep it on?

Program: What would be the point of unvoting?

10 Delay the lynch?
11 No one's going to hammer.
20 Avoid the lynch?
21 Not gonna happen?
30 Make me look better in your eyes?
31 To what purpose?
40 GOTO 10

[Bronya Zaychik]

Hi could give you something big or little instead i prese t you with a riddle
Whqt is the actual name of this mafia game

Asked about jn game guesses and sent in some answers

Find scum lynch scum?

[Purple Heart]

omg it works
and its so
beautiful

[Purple Heart]

So yeah, I

literally

will not be reading Gamma's posts anymore unless I am on my ipad thank
fucking
god

[Creature]

I need a scumflip to gain interess in this game.

[Creature]

The guilty on Almost50 is still a real guilty, right?

[Creature]

Though, yeah, A50 feels lolcatty

[Creature]

Because he faked a guilty

Dammit

[Reasonably Rational]

Even though it seems most of you don't care about figuring out the riddle icon has, I'm going to remind you all that Sky bird has a PT with Icon, Chara has a PT with everyone else, so even in the night we can make suggestions that Chara can pass on to skybird to pass on to icon. So let's not just stop trying bease the day ends without resolution.

@PH:I still see numerous scenarios where MC is scum, and I never STOPPED seeing those scenarios. So, lynching them was always going to come up for me at least if their list didn't lead us to at least 2 scum lunches immediately.

-Cerb

[Reasonably Rational]

A50, why haven't you don't anything to actually gsmesolve since people pressured you? If you know you're going to be lynched and are town, you can still win...so why haven't you been trying to?

-Cerb