In post 653, northsidegal wrote: In post 642, Kuuhaku wrote: In post 641, northsidegal wrote: In post 637, Kuuhaku wrote:BBmolla seems to be a weak player that would be unlikely to be picked by Pine in a draft, for similar reasons to Aristophanes. I could be wrong.
and do you get this sense from this game only or for meta from elsewhere?
From this game.
doesn't it seem rather circular to you to look at bbmolla's play this game, after he's received his alignment, and use that to make a judgment about what his play would be like as scum? either circular or already assuming bbmolla is town, no?
like, you look at bbmolla's play this game and say "oh, this guy is playing a weak game, so he probably wasn't chosen for scum", when the converse of bbmolla being scum being the reason for him playing a weak game is also valid?
With regard to this, it's not necessarily circular. General player competency estimations need not necessarily be influenced by alignment.
I believe, your argument is, that I can't conclude that I can judge BBmolla's play from this game, since, his alignment has been decided already. But the fact of the matter is that I can construct accurate estimations and extrapolations of a single player's competency based on their play in a single game.
Take RC, for instance. If you played with him in a game, and only one game, you already might have certain conclusions of what kind of player he is; i.e. domineering, charismatic (?), egotistical. These traits need not necessarily be because he rolled scum; there are
just there
. With such observations, it isn't difficult to conclude that, because of these traits, RC would likely be a strong scum player. Then, working backwards, if RC was in a game with non-randomized alignments, it would be logical to deduce that RC would more likely than not to pick a scum alignment than town alignment.
The same applies here. Sure, you may argue that BBmolla is playing a weak game
because
he is scum, rather than my position that BBmolla is not scum because he is playing a weak game. But, several players are able to play a strong game regardless of their alignment. It begs the question: if BBmolla is known to play weak games as scum, would he even have been picked to be scum in the first place? Would Pine knowingly sacrifice the chances of his team winning, the fact that BBmolla would likely be caught, and also a valuable team slot, just to pull such a reverse-psychology stunt?
The answer is up to you to decide. But my answer is no, he would not. BBmolla won't be chosen to be scum unless there was no other choice.
~Sora
