Sid Meier's Civilization 5 UPick Mafia (GAME OVER)

[OnTheMark]

So Ergo Joey is probably town.

VOTE: Unvote

In case Venmar doesn’t follow replacement rules for they Unvote right away.

[OnTheMark]

yeah ok
dont blame me if this flips town
VOTE: creature

ME NO LIKE THIS POST

Kok, Idgaf if you want me to be vigged. at least im not being antitown like nero.

End of day scumreads if i do get vigged:

Gamma, Nero, Kok (maybe), dunk

Strange that you assume you will be a vig target rather than a night kill

i agree somewhat, that the Creature lynch is not as informative as it could be. it's like lynching a cop guilty. i don't think anyone would be arguing for leaving a guilty alive. perhaps it's different for players like Titus who don't want to rely on meta or players who just don't know him.
i am reminded of the "town winrates go down when scum is lynched day 1" theory. it's interesting.

would still rather lynch essentially confirmed scum. seeing a scum role would be useful to tell us about the setup and remove a night factor. i've waited to lynch scum Creature before on the insistence of other players and it didn't really help anything because he doesn't post.
i guess leaving him alive would be fine if a vig shoots him.

posts like this are the reason I townread Chara so goddamn hard. We have the -exact- same thought process for this.

Ok, I think I support a massclaim now tbh, but I'll go ahead and claim anyhow because NKA may just be useful here.

I'm Japan, hence my first post in this game starting with a haiku, and I have Bushido. I'm a vig. I shot Dunker, and I shot Kokichi.

Interesting so my theory was correct. Now let’s take a look at the Kokichi read at the end of day two to see if it is supportive of an SK stance or a town stance or a mafia gambiting stance.

If we assume Shaziro is an unlimited shot SK/vig then we know mafia tried to kill Kokichi as well.
If we assume Shaziro mafia then he is trying to buy time with the vig claim. When he is forced to continually claim shots and if the other team was eliminated Shaziro would be policied unless two kills show up when one team is gone.

Therefore Shaziro if mafia gambiting is not with Creature/Dunker as that would be suicide. So Shaziro scum with Varsoon,SK, and town vig (one shot or unlimited) are the only possibilities:

[OnTheMark]

Vig gamma please.

VOTE: actiondan

I'll lynch ActionDan on the principle that he thinks that I can be scum this game.

L y n c h. G a m m a

Good. Now you have a full day to think of a believable claim and reason as to why you used a watcher shot on the clear yesterday and not tonight.

You're poisoning the well against him now. Gross.

Here's a direct quote which I can be bothered to get because it's recent. Beyond that, it's a mix of the seemingly purposeful spearing of attempts to get information, the constant insistence that they be World Congress leader, the attempts to powerlynch Gamma despite Gamma (at least to me) being obviously town, and their smug attitude towards votes on them which smacks of scum trying to convince town that voting them won't do anything so don't bother.

TL;DR they've been scummy as shit all game both in action and in my gutread on them, I'd be happy to see them flip.

Wow pushing on scum makes me scum. Who knew

So looking back at Kokichi’s last posts they had Gamma and Action Dan and Shaziro in their last posts. Action Dan flipped town so I think

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

while I finish my reading is the way to go.

[Kiana Kaslana]

OtM I was strong townreading your slot thanks to Titus and I still do so now, but please do summarize your reads and catchup once you're done, because it's all over the place and I can't make much sense of the fragments.

<3, Kiana

[OnTheMark]

OtM I was strong townreading your slot thanks to Titus and I still do so now, but please do summarize your reads and catchup once you're done, because it's all over the place and I can't make much sense of the fragments.

<3, Kiana

So far I am at
Joey is town due to I don’t see any partners for him
Gamma is probably scum due to NKA
Shaziro is probably SK or vig very little/no chance mafia fake claim.

And I used to do walls. No one ever reads them, calls them an incoherent mess, and then completely disregards then asks me for my reads in which I point them to what I do.

I find it easier and more transparent to rapid post catch ups.

So respectfully, no.

[OnTheMark]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Seer hunt Clear or RVS vote clear is usually a thing so Gamma, if scum, is likely with Varsoon. Especially given how Creature lurksacs as scum so unlikely Creature and Gamma are partners.

[OnTheMark]

If we nominate a town block of about 5-6 people who will receives the most of the delegates for the coming days, if they get killed off they will keep somewhat of a head-start to keep the snowball effect, so town can get more delegates to give it to town and so on. It keeps the WL and 2nd runner up at least in town hands (if we have half decent reads, its not hard to find 4-5 obvious town slot in a 20p setup)

This is a 100% horrible idea.

This is what Thing Mafia did.

I pointed out scum in town block. Was ignored.

This is a good way to funnel things in world congress to the most liked players on site or those who play scum good.

Instead let’s rationally assess and figure out what to do each day.

[OnTheMark]

EBtw town circle for now -> kokichi, nero, sharizo and prob dunk

And this is why you don’t town block and then distribute based on said block.

Dunk is confirmed mafia and Shaziro could be SK.

Just stawp it.

[OnTheMark]

Also spec wise, a religion spreader + invest role + some sort of blocking role makes sens for a scum team (this is conf bias too and gamma could lie and about his role as scum)
This also means that there might be an orange religion spreader? Hm

This makes sense

We need a list:

Who has gotten religious and who hasn’t? And do we know what religion does yet?

[OnTheMark]

Gotta go for now but a summary of claims and religions/world Congress stuffs would be super helpful if it exists.

[Chara]

Gotta go for now but a summary of claims and religions/world Congress stuffs would be super helpful if it exists.

i told you to ISO Joey for a reason.

[BuJaber]

Yeah so far Mark is basically rehashing things already said.

I get why he doesn't want to post walls. But this post by post thing doesn't work. Read everything again and make notes if a post comes up that changes or negates or replaces a note you previously made or you find someone saying the exact same thing then you don't have to post it at all.

I had a game recently finish where the person catching up voted for a dead player as they were catching up and couldn't finish their catch up in time to do anything meaninful because a wagon got hammered.

At least he seems to be a fast reader.

Mark once you finish -
What do you think about the idea that 1 out of the 3 claimed religion spreaders is scum?

How do you read gamma / klazam / joda ?

Independent from the religion claim how do you read a50 / pidgey / marshy?

Do you know anything about your predecessor's meta?

Name 2-3 people you'd suggest as a vig target for shaz.

Thanks

Also anybody else who hasn't shared an opinion on these same points please do.

I think shaz should shoot within {klazam, ceasar, kiana, any religion spreader}

I think we should lynch within {klazam, ceasar, mark (pending catchup)}

[Joey_]

i dont want to be a dick otm but almost everything you just said was already addressed and most of your reaction to previous post are now obsolete. Im still okay with the reaction-catching up thingy, its just that with a 160 pages long game its not as effective

[Joey_]

[

Brassherald
Innocent Child
▓▓▓▓
Joey	Chara
Commuter	?
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Kiana Kaslana	Bujaber	Gamma Emerald	Klazam
VT	VT	JOAT	?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Shaziro	Pidgey	Jodaxq
Vig or SK	Catholic Spreader	Self Random Inventor
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Almost50	Marshy	Ranmaru	Titus
Taoism Spreader	Protestant Spreader	?	Non-Consec Doc
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓

it slightly irritates me that ppl says they read my iso yet fail to open my spoiler tags about my reads
The gamma being non-red is something that i brought up the moment d2 started, the shaz being a vig OR SK is something that has been in my read list the moment shaz claimed, the theory about 2 religion spreader not being in the same team has also been there in my reads etc.

[Joey_]

Resolutions

Spoiler:

DAY 1

[

Ban Luxury

~ Silk]

PASSES

The World Congress will monitor its effects going forward, but angry letters from textile manufacturers and sex workers alike have already started pouring in.

Effect(s) Unknown.

[

Congressional Peace-keeping

~ brassherald]

PASSES

The World Congress sends its peace-keeping forces to

brassherald

's Civilization, a move that is sure to curtail aggression in the region.

brassherald receives Protection Night 1.

DAY 2

Temporary Ban Gold

[/i]

PASSES

ivilizations around the world will monitor its effects going forward, but already it appears that the very wealthy and very religious are being hit hard by the move away from the gold standard. Effect(s) Unknown.

Temporary Ban of Ivory

 

PASSES

The World Congress is applauded for its conservation efforts, and animal rights activists begin contacting member Civilizations about expanding other initiatives around the world. No gameplay effect(s)

DAY 3

[Embargo City States]

PASSES

International Games PIDGEY

PASSES

 

Spoiler: Day 2 Options

DAY 2

1.

[Temporary Ban Gold]

[/i] (non-consec)

IMO hinting at kills in some ways, apparently you might get gold for blood. Also hinting that gold is linked to Religion and that Religious Gold is especially bad.

2.

[Temporary Ban Ivory]

(non-consec)

Saying that it lasted too long and that it's one of the worst thing humanity is doing to the nature. Elephant and rhinos are endangered (Africa?)

3.

[Temporary Ban Furs]

(non-consec)

2 Italian and 1 American clothing brands listed implying they are the leaders in the fur trade. Banning Furs can help protect those animals that are close to extinction, none animal are hinted.

4.

[Embargo Nation]

(non-consec, cannot self assign delegates)

Implies that the World Congress is going to act on said Nation and that is more than just denunciation.

5.

[Embargo City States]

(permanent, can be repealed)

This one is actually interesting. it says that the City States are really small and that they makes the global politics more complex and that it can interfere with the politic of the others bigger and powerful civilisation. IMO this could mean that there is 3p players with 3P win-con and Town win con. This one could shut-down their 3p win-con, in that way it would make the Global Politics simpler between the bigger and more powerful civilisations (Mafia and Town ?)

6.

Protection of Natural Wonders

(permanent, can be repealed)

 
Hinted to be linked to Culture (?). It says that we should protect the Cultural Natural Wonders around the world. Maybe it will affect everyone ?

7.

Recognition of World Wonders

(permanent, can be repealed)

In the same ways, it says that there is a Word Wonder in each and every Civ, might affect everyone ?

8.

Funding Arts

(non-consec)

It says that Art in general and around the world will get a boost and will flourish. The Resolution is to make or oppose the making of a program about art in every Civ.

9.

Funding Science

(non-consec, can self assign delegates)

This one is interesting too because it's not what i thought it was before reading the description myself.
Basically it says the the Science in general, around the world, will get a boost and will flourish. But, the resolution is about supporting or opposiong 1 Civ to talk about making a program about science in their own Civ. So this might actually boost Science scum even if we target the IC.

Spoiler: Day 3 Options

1.

[Embargo Nation]

(non-consec, cannot self assign delegates)

2.

[Embargo City States]

(permanent, can be repealed)

3.

Protection of Natural Wonders

(permanent, can be repealed)

 

4.

Recognition of World Wonders

(permanent, can be repealed)

5.

International Games Nation

(consec, can self-assign delegates)

 

***This one seems complicated, i prefer to wait for the IC to give me his thoughts! But basically you can nominate a player who will then gain some kind of advantage, like abilities? unsure

6.

SECRETO PEPITO

 

@BRASS im not sure if this one is a good idea to out as it might give info to mefias!!!

Gamestate 3.0

Alive

14/21

Spoiler:

Brassherald
Innocent Child
▓▓▓▓
Joey	Chara
Commuter	?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Kiana Kaslana	Bujaber	Gamma Emerald	Klazam
VT	VT	JOAT	?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Shaziro	Pidgey	Jodaxq
Vig or SK	Catholic Spreader ?	Self Random Inventor
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ? ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Almost50	Marshy	Ranmaru	Titus
Taoism Spreader	Protestant Spreader ?	?	Non-Consec Doc
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ? ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓

Dead

7/21

Spoiler:

Elbirn	Kokichi Oma	ActionDan	NeroCain
Weak Permanent BG	Neihborizer	VT	JK
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓
Varsoon
Role Cop
▓▓▓▓
Creature	Dunkerdoodles
Role Blocker	Pagan Spreader
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓

Spoiler: My reads

[

Brassherald
Innocent Child
▓▓▓▓
Joey	Chara
Commuter	?
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Kiana Kaslana	Bujaber	Gamma Emerald	Klazam
VT	VT	JOAT	?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Shaziro	Pidgey	Jodaxq
Vig or SK	Catholic Spreader	Self Random Inventor
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Almost50	Marshy	Ranmaru	Titus
Taoism Spreader	Protestant Spreader	?	Non-Consec Doc
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓

Actually going to quote the whole post here since he also asked for resolution.. OTM how could you miss those posts ?

[Joey_]

EBtw town circle for now -> kokichi, nero, sharizo and prob dunk

And this is why you don’t town block and then distribute based on said block.

Dunk is confirmed mafia and Shaziro could be SK.

Just stawp it.

Also spec wise, a religion spreader + invest role + some sort of blocking role makes sens for a scum team (this is conf bias too and gamma could lie and about his role as scum)
This also means that there might be an orange religion spreader? Hm

This makes sense

We need a list:

Who has gotten religious and who hasn’t? And do we know what religion does yet?

How could you go reading my iso from post 1040 to 2358 in literally a minute ???

[Joey_]

Im breaking the RP because i feel like it keeps me from responding quickly to new stuff and it might hinder my wincon.

@Elbirn about Brass: I disliked most of his content, its especially pretty underwhelming compared to the rest of the table. That being said, my mind changed since i made that vote because he's obviously and very heavily softing that his behavior is explained by his role which IMO is not something i think scum just does. He also had that attitude since the very first post so this is coherent with his posting.

Also inb4 anyone try to push that i am fishing for claims, Brass implied something about his role easily 4-5 times since the beginning of the game, if you didn't notice yet then you are just not paying attention, me saying that in this post doesn't help scum as much as it helps town give the guy some space.

Dear Prime Minister of Stars,

If you feel the RP was stopping you from responding immediately at this point in time, and not the others what caused your stop? I wonder who or what was being pushed at that time. And why did you feel the need to respond immediately? (Yes I am a hyperposter

as well

I am

not

saying hyperposting is scummy. I am saying I need to ascertain the root cause)

This is what I call a “significant event”. Anything that causes yourself or someone else to make a playstyle change or a change in reads is a significant event. Those need to address the why.

Sincerely,

I fucking hate this RP and doing this to make a point

The moment i stopped the RP was the moment where i needed to express my thoughts more clearly because the game got more serious, it was about the end of RVS/trolling. Your question is pretty darn redundant as well

"If you feel the RP was stopping you from responding immediately at this point in time, and not the others what caused your stop?"

Because the moment i stopped the RP was exactly the moment where i felt that my RP was hindering my play enough that it was justified i stopped rp'ing

[OnTheMark]

EBtw town circle for now -> kokichi, nero, sharizo and prob dunk

And this is why you don’t town block and then distribute based on said block.

Dunk is confirmed mafia and Shaziro could be SK.

Just stawp it.

Also spec wise, a religion spreader + invest role + some sort of blocking role makes sens for a scum team (this is conf bias too and gamma could lie and about his role as scum)
This also means that there might be an orange religion spreader? Hm

This makes sense

We need a list:

Who has gotten religious and who hasn’t? And do we know what religion does yet?

How could you go reading my iso from post 1040 to 2358 in literally a minute ???

Because I am not “reading” in the traditional sense.

With a game of this magnitude it is impossible if I want to post anything resembling content by EOD

Instead I look for differences.

Oh which your drop of RP was a significant event.

Once significant events are found, combine with known facts, then ascertain the most likely scenario.

[Joey_]

Thats bs, read my iso and come back, dont half ass it

[OnTheMark]

Resolutions

Spoiler:

DAY 1

[

Ban Luxury

~ Silk]

PASSES

The World Congress will monitor its effects going forward, but angry letters from textile manufacturers and sex workers alike have already started pouring in.

Effect(s) Unknown.

[

Congressional Peace-keeping

~ brassherald]

PASSES

The World Congress sends its peace-keeping forces to

brassherald

's Civilization, a move that is sure to curtail aggression in the region.

brassherald receives Protection Night 1.

DAY 2

Temporary Ban Gold

[/i]

PASSES

ivilizations around the world will monitor its effects going forward, but already it appears that the very wealthy and very religious are being hit hard by the move away from the gold standard. Effect(s) Unknown.

Temporary Ban of Ivory

 

PASSES

The World Congress is applauded for its conservation efforts, and animal rights activists begin contacting member Civilizations about expanding other initiatives around the world. No gameplay effect(s)

DAY 3

[Embargo City States]

PASSES

International Games PIDGEY

PASSES

 

Spoiler: Day 2 Options

DAY 2

1.

[Temporary Ban Gold]

[/i] (non-consec)

IMO hinting at kills in some ways, apparently you might get gold for blood. Also hinting that gold is linked to Religion and that Religious Gold is especially bad.

2.

[Temporary Ban Ivory]

(non-consec)

Saying that it lasted too long and that it's one of the worst thing humanity is doing to the nature. Elephant and rhinos are endangered (Africa?)

3.

[Temporary Ban Furs]

(non-consec)

2 Italian and 1 American clothing brands listed implying they are the leaders in the fur trade. Banning Furs can help protect those animals that are close to extinction, none animal are hinted.

4.

[Embargo Nation]

(non-consec, cannot self assign delegates)

Implies that the World Congress is going to act on said Nation and that is more than just denunciation.

5.

[Embargo City States]

(permanent, can be repealed)

This one is actually interesting. it says that the City States are really small and that they makes the global politics more complex and that it can interfere with the politic of the others bigger and powerful civilisation. IMO this could mean that there is 3p players with 3P win-con and Town win con. This one could shut-down their 3p win-con, in that way it would make the Global Politics simpler between the bigger and more powerful civilisations (Mafia and Town ?)

6.

Protection of Natural Wonders

(permanent, can be repealed)

 
Hinted to be linked to Culture (?). It says that we should protect the Cultural Natural Wonders around the world. Maybe it will affect everyone ?

7.

Recognition of World Wonders

(permanent, can be repealed)

In the same ways, it says that there is a Word Wonder in each and every Civ, might affect everyone ?

8.

Funding Arts

(non-consec)

It says that Art in general and around the world will get a boost and will flourish. The Resolution is to make or oppose the making of a program about art in every Civ.

9.

Funding Science

(non-consec, can self assign delegates)

This one is interesting too because it's not what i thought it was before reading the description myself.
Basically it says the the Science in general, around the world, will get a boost and will flourish. But, the resolution is about supporting or opposiong 1 Civ to talk about making a program about science in their own Civ. So this might actually boost Science scum even if we target the IC.

Spoiler: Day 3 Options

1.

[Embargo Nation]

(non-consec, cannot self assign delegates)

2.

[Embargo City States]

(permanent, can be repealed)

3.

Protection of Natural Wonders

(permanent, can be repealed)

 

4.

Recognition of World Wonders

(permanent, can be repealed)

5.

International Games Nation

(consec, can self-assign delegates)

 

***This one seems complicated, i prefer to wait for the IC to give me his thoughts! But basically you can nominate a player who will then gain some kind of advantage, like abilities? unsure

6.

SECRETO PEPITO

 

@BRASS im not sure if this one is a good idea to out as it might give info to mefias!!!

Gamestate 3.0

Alive

14/21

Spoiler:

Brassherald
Innocent Child
▓▓▓▓
Joey	Chara
Commuter	?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Kiana Kaslana	Bujaber	Gamma Emerald	Klazam
VT	VT	JOAT	?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Shaziro	Pidgey	Jodaxq
Vig or SK	Catholic Spreader ?	Self Random Inventor
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ? ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Almost50	Marshy	Ranmaru	Titus
Taoism Spreader	Protestant Spreader ?	?	Non-Consec Doc
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ? ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓

Dead

7/21

Spoiler:

Elbirn	Kokichi Oma	ActionDan	NeroCain
Weak Permanent BG	Neihborizer	VT	JK
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓
Varsoon
Role Cop
▓▓▓▓
Creature	Dunkerdoodles
Role Blocker	Pagan Spreader
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓

Spoiler: My reads

[

Brassherald
Innocent Child
▓▓▓▓
Joey	Chara
Commuter	?
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Kiana Kaslana	Bujaber	Gamma Emerald	Klazam
VT	VT	JOAT	?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Shaziro	Pidgey	Jodaxq
Vig or SK	Catholic Spreader	Self Random Inventor
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Almost50	Marshy	Ranmaru	Titus
Taoism Spreader	Protestant Spreader	?	Non-Consec Doc
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓

Actually going to quote the whole post here since he also asked for resolution.. OTM how could you miss those posts ?

This is good for the resolutions but looking for claims.

@Chara I am aware you said Joey and that is where I started I just found a significant event that needed to be addressed. Finding such helped me to establish likely worlds and progress from there and let’s me be helpful without having to wait overnight to do so.

Yes I could and will take the traditional “reading” overnight but that is literally 4000 posts. 1000 (roughly) of the people you suggested before. I always do catch ups like this and see 0% reason to change that.

Pedit: Then with your style I don’t post til tomorrow Joey. I heat map. It’s what I do. I found an important heat source and explored it. That helps me get more reads and integrate seeing how people respond to the most likely world.

[Joey_]

FUCKING OPEN THE SPOILER GODDAMIT

[OnTheMark]

FUCKING OPEN THE SPOILER GODDAMIT

But are those the claims or your guesses?

I intentionally did not open that because it’s reads and wouldn’t have therefore been a significant event. But if you assert that is all factual that is a significant event.

[Joey_]

CLAIMS

[Joey_]

Also why do you even care to iso me if you dont open my reads lists lol, as if you could only judge my alignement from scum interactions and not my reads progression

[OnTheMark]

CLAIMS

Okay then mechanically why is your vote not on Almost50?

One scum had a religion spreader.
Mechanically I am making an assumption here, that scum did not get a neg utility role.

Almost50 is the only religion spreader you say could be scum.

So are you assuming the other scum team doesn’t?