Turn of Camn ~FIN~

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@LLD:

Implosion is weird, having weird feelings about him.

He's high on the EV list of Pine draft picks and low on the EV list of Alisae draft picks,

and his posts aren't really filling me with good feelings.

Very curious where this is coming from.

I have an internal list of players, two of them actually. Ones that are good picks for scum (rated on visibility, talent and risk) and ones that are good for town (rated on scumhunting, charisma and looking like town).

Those lists have inverse values to the other side's draft. High on the scum list means you are also a decent pick for town in terms of hate drafting.

Same for scum, so add that as a fourth value to each side.

I could write these lists out for you, but I don't think that adds any value. What I am saying is that you are high on BOTH scales, and that makes you an incredibly enticing pick. I think you probably got drafted by Pine pick one or pick 2.

[Kuuhaku]

Parama tbh I was prepared to unvote you after reading you stuff I did post but the replace out threat and subsequant AtEing is just awful so now I am not sure how to feel about you again.

[Kuuhaku]

I would also vote DgB though that vote on Parama was awful.

[implosion]

Okay. I thought you were talking about some meta justification for Pine and Alisae specifically.

Unvote

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like, I could see a draft going

Pine: Implosion

or

Pine: MariaR
Alisae: LLD, Reckoner, Mastina
Pine: Implosion

And while this isn't conclusive evidence, your posting so far hasn't enticed me to think you are town, so I have inclination to lean the other way.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Okay. I thought you were talking about some meta justification for Pine and Alisae specifically.

Unvote

I mean, I could try and outguess Pine? It's just not worth trying too much to do.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Parama slot is town 100% confirmed by the way. I do not think Parama scum replaces out like that.

[Kuuhaku]

Parama slot is town 100% confirmed by the way. I do not think Parama scum replaces out like that.

I mean we do not know if he will replace out yet at all. This is quality AtE stuff he might be pulling. Hold your judgment there.

[mastina]

gingerbread man what do you think of molla btw. i've already pretty vocally expressed i think he's scum & i'm not alone in that sentiment

The sentiment sucks. He's not. Aside from the fact that--while he is THEORETICALLY someone Pine COULD pick--he is someone that Pine is

incredibly unlikely

to have picked...there's also his play.

I am in the 95% certainty range that I am remembering his townplay correctly and that this is it, that this is the opposite of his scumplay. Would I be able to give specifics, no. I can't recall them. It's kinda frustrating, because if I could recall them then I'd be able to explain this read properly. But I just...well. Words not quite there, but.

Molla as scum had a particular way of playing that I used to be very good at finding; Molla's way of playing as town was distinctly different. I can't even remember what this particular way of playing was. There's a small gap in the memory files, lost data as it were. But the data NOT lost is that this is the town him. I can't isolate the factor which makes it the town him. But I know it is.

[northsidegal]

Parama slot is town 100% confirmed by the way. I do not think Parama scum replaces out like that.

I mean we do not know if he will replace out yet at all. This is quality AtE stuff he might be pulling. Hold your judgment there.

don't like this post

[Kuuhaku]

Parama slot is town 100% confirmed by the way. I do not think Parama scum replaces out like that.

I mean we do not know if he will replace out yet at all. This is quality AtE stuff he might be pulling. Hold your judgment there.

don't like this post

k, I have seen that kind of AtE before so w/e

[Kuuhaku]

I am just speaking my mind here and everything does need to be taken into consideration.

[Parama]

Like 75% of this game is speculating on pine's and alisae's picks too which is also unfun

[mastina]

Also even if she was scum here, I'm realizing that she knows I can get under her spell easily and she has no need not to easily buddy me/kill me, therefore she has actual concerns about me.

For the record--those concerns never quite went away fully. There is the paranoia.
There is the doubt.
There is the "she did those things!" there.
But no.

You are town.
I've been hesitant to call it a soulread. But. That's the only way of describing it. That.
Look at you.
And "she's town". Realization.

Soyeah.

I'll try to get a new readslist up in a bit.

[MariaR]

Dota Mafia- Forced Replaced out as scum
Summer Night Revelry- Killed myself with RC day 1
Midscummer's night dream- I was scum, won without being lynched.
League of Legends Mafia- I was scum, won without being lynched (you were admittedly at least RIGHT on me in this game, but got shot because I just ignored you and then shot you which is always the correct answer to dealing with you as scum).
Magical Girls Mafia- You were scum, I was town, you won without being lynched. You played well that game.
RWBY UPick Blitz- I was scum, was never lynched, game was abandoned and you called me scum on like day 4 when nothing was happening and no one cared at all. Also, was the game where I tried hyperbussing two team mates for fun. Good times.
Night Clan- we were confirmed town to each other.
Team Mafia- was replaced out
VN Mafia- Was set as confirmed town by Hebi more or less Day 1, and claimed my role day 2.

oh you're right I did want you killed I think along with RC
I wanted you killed in RWBY
I wanted you killed in midnight dream
I tried to get your slot lynched before you replaced out in team mafia

buuuut you did show me one game so I guess that counts haha!
VOTE: Maria

[Firebringer]

This game is a living meme

[beeboy]

No u

[Firebringer]

Can we just lynch mastina?
I’m not moving vote.

[DrippingGoofball]

. It's possible there's bussing or none if she's scum.

If she's scum, there is bus'ing.

[Parama]

Can we just lynch mastina?
I’m not moving vote.

For the record this is still 100% scum

[Firebringer]

R u leaving or not?

[mastina]

Given that mastina is the leading wagon, I do think it would be in your best interest to investigate why other people scumread her, and also try to convince them otherwise.

Oh yeah, about that wagon.

It's not exactly a shining beacon of towniness filled to the brim with town, but it's also not hard-driven by scum. It's more in the middle. Specifically,

mastina ------------ 5 ( BBmolla(9), Mathdino(16), Firebringer(22), Ginngie(13), Lady Lambdadelta(8) )

L- 4

mastina ------------ 5 ( BBmolla(17), Mathdino(43), Firebringer(85), Lady Lambdadelta(8), xRECKONERx(5) )

L- 4

Mathdino is powerscum just as much as Molla is power town. Firebringer is about as much a lean-town as LLD is a lean-scum (though LLD is probably stronger a scumread than Firebringer a townread). Reck sits at basically the definition of ambivalent-null, in that he is pretty much precisely as likely to be town as he is to be scum.

I can see two scum on that wagon, but I don't see more than that and it's possible it's less.

[Firebringer]

Hey ginngie, mastina is pocketing you.

Look who predicted that

[mastina]

If Chara was playing on her own, I'd locktown her too on the basis that Alisae would probably pick Chara over Pine. But with Ellibereth in the picture it just complicates the issue.

That's rats-ass backwards. Ellibereth in the slot makes Alisae MORE likely to pick the slot, not less.

You probably have horrible reads, I can already tell.

Alternatively, he's just scum.

That seems to fit somehow.

You can always help me wagon Mathdino then!

[Ginngie]

Hey ginngie, mastina is pocketing you.

Look who predicted that

I townread mastina based on how I know how her mind works

it wasn't anything she convinced me of but because of a convo she had with someone else

so town read isn't a pocket move