VARSOON VARIETY HOUR : GAME SCRAPPED

[Reasonably Rational]

Also, let's be clear about the Iconeum situation: He had a PT with skybird yesterday. He told Skybird that he had successfully answered the riddle, with the answer "Varsoons Variety Hour". Skybird told Chara, who told me, about this development.

So.

Few options.

Icon is lying scum.
Chara is lying scum.
Scum blocked Chara so his pt wouldn't be created since it became a night action, thereby preventing the IC thing from happening or him getting his PT.

-Cerb

[Reasonably Rational]

Oh, chara could also be lying 3P. :p

-Cerb

[Purple Heart]

Waiting for Bee's call but that doesn't change the fact that Baku dies then Gamma.

[Gamma Emerald]

> Gamma Tracks literally 3 obvious town and claims he was sorting people KEK

that's not what I claimed at all
thought maybe you'd get that if you read my posts

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma, I still don't understand the Iconeum scumread. Make a case on why his D1 play is generally scummy, and how he is associated with Baku and Venmar. It's been 3 dayphases, and I still haven't seen adequate reasoning of your longest-running scumread.

Please... PLEASE, Gamma. Do not tell me you FoS Iconeum BECAUSE he didn't magically guess the alternative name of this game correctly.



Also, what is your view of the strategems?

I feel like the way Iconeum commented on things didn't fel very natural, and I also feel like he's been playing very different compared to his play in the mini theme I modded. I can fetch posts if needed but that's the gist of it. While it's not purely based on him not guessing the game's name there's also the fact his attitude towards the whole thing felt very against it.
As for the stratagems are you asking in general or the ones we are currently voting on?

[Varsoon]

Mod: Assuming we pick Paliment, how will the names be selected?

This information is not intended to be a part of the public description of the Stratagem.
In other words; I can not tell you that.

[Titus]

VOTE: Parliment

I like the solid information here frankly. Even if we get only a highly likely and accurate scum suspect alone, it will likely result in a bus. If only a highly likely suspect shows and we are wrong, that is info too.

[Iconeum]

I did solve the riddle, only it was already night. I gave a fair warning that I'd not have time during the weekend (I never do) to actually solve it. No PT with Chara.

The mod received

every single answer

posted here when I had the actual time, and it was indeed Varsoon Variety Hour (guessed by no other then Chara).

I was/am in fact opposed to 'simply' solving all those puzzles and riddles. I always had a feeling that there would be no IC declared today, as I mentioned multiple times in the Skybird PT. I also said there that I'd want to be lynching Chara today, but it might not actually be the best move because obv third party.

Chara has been lying all game long here. Is anyone actually surprised that might have happened again?
If you think Chara is third party, how can it be declared IC?

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I'm fine with either Titan or Parliament.
Titan is a safer and valueble option, while Parliament is a high risk-high reward strategy depending on who is picked for the PT.

[Purple Heart]

I LITERALLY SAID THE ANSWER IN THREAD

[Purple Heart]

Varsoon Variety Hour Mafia,

guess that to him

Iconeum

.

It's catchy, and I think it fits with the theme. I've been thinking about it a lot.

~ Taly

TALY
YOU FUCKER
I JUST SAID VARSOON VARIETY HOUR NOT VARSOON VARIETY HOUR MAFIA

[Chara]

listen. i had a wincon centered on that IC. i don't have my win which means i failed. even if i was lying about the IC to get my wincon, or whatever else, the ability failing was out of my control. the alternative is thinking i succeeded and am hiding it despite there being no best friends PT with Iconeum.

[Reasonably Rational]

Iconeum, literally every one else in this game(except Snarky, cuz he was deaded) has a PT with Chara now, which they received once they solved the puzzle.

Why would solving the puzzle notnot give you a PT with him? I'm not even concerned about the IC, because the IC was contingent on a PT with you that was itself contngent upon you sloving the puzzle like you claimed.

So, what exactly do YOU think happened, if you were still able to solve rhe puzzle, and Varsoon told you that you had successfully solved it?

-Cerb

[Chara]

unclear role PM. beeboy finally got me asking the right question. Iconeum was night roleblocked for failing to complete the puzzle during the dayphase. can't do puzzles at night.
during Genocide i could only send puzzles during the day, but the Pacifist side didn't have that distinction. Varsoon says it's his error but it's my fault too for going with what was posted and not making sure.

[Chara]

basically: once day ended there was nothing to be done about it. :<

[Iconeum]

I confirm I was unable to perform night action for 'taking too long' at solving the riddle.
What I did get was confirmation I solved the puzzle during the night phase.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Why is getting the IC, time contingent?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Why is getting the IC, time contingent?

I mean, if Icon did solve the puzzle in time?

[Nancy Drew 39]

I confirm I was unable to perform night action for 'taking too long' at solving the riddle.
What I did get was confirmation I solved the puzzle during the night phase.

So why didn’t Chara get his IC then?

[Chara]

see my post. ability doesn't work at night.

[Titus]

Chara, I'm just rather skeptical of you and I'd rather stop talkjng about this.

[Reasonably Rational]

I did solve the riddle, only it was already night. I gave a fair warning that I'd not have time during the weekend (I never do) to actually solve it. No PT with Chara.

The mod received

every single answer

posted here when I had the actual time, and it was indeed Varsoon Variety Hour (guessed by no other then Chara).

I was/am in fact opposed to 'simply' solving all those puzzles and riddles. I always had a feeling that there would be no IC declared today, as I mentioned multiple times in the Skybird PT. I also said there that I'd want to be lynching Chara today, but it might not actually be the best move because obv third party.

Chara has been lying all game long here. Is anyone actually surprised that might have happened again?
If you think Chara is third party, how can it be declared IC?

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I'm fine with either Titan or Parliament.
Titan is a safer and valueble option, while Parliament is a high risk-high reward strategy depending on who is picked for the PT.

So, for the record, town slots with additional independent win conditions are not unheard of. I believe someone received 3 wins once in a game or something, simply because their role had it's own little mini-game attached to it, and they didn't get removed from the game when they achieved their goals.

So, it's entirely possible.

Regarding TvP: What about parliament represents a risk to you? Literally the only risk is in if people somehow go insane and decide to ONLY lynch through that pool BEFORE lynching based on actual good reasoning. So long as that pool only becomes viable for lynching after we've exhausted more likely scumspects, it's no risk, high reward.

@Varsoon: For Parliament: How long will the PT remain open? Will individuals be able to post in it post-death? Is it available both day and night?

-Cerb

[Titus]

@Cerb, While I disagree with Parliment being high risk, it's not 0. Scum could make a move which I want to discuss privately assuming they get a) good rand or b) pick well.

[Reasonably Rational]

Oh.

@Varsoon: Will the composition of the Parliament be affected by anything which would change investigate results? For example, if a role existed for the town which stated they were considered a member of the scum faction for all purposes other than win condition, would that slot be able to be placed into that PT and occupy the "scum" slot? In short, is it possible for the PT to be composed of 4 slots aligned with the town, or would that be considered mod lying as far as you're concerned?

@Titus: Discuss through Chara, if you're not too unsure of them. I'm fairly certain a scum!Chara scenario is super unlikely, but I can definitely imagine them, so I understand your doubt.

-Cerb

[Reasonably Rational]

@Chara: Parliament vote plz. Hell, everyone else too! <3

VOTE: Parliament

[Titus]

I'd like everyone to claim their PTs. I don't think it will happen but I would like it to.