Open 719: Stack The Deck! (D4)

[Nauci]

that's a shite response

ooooo i get the good drugs now

peace out y'all

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

In short, I'm now viewing 44 in a different perspective and I see how a Beef+the worst original team could have gone down the route of picking 2-3 abilities just to cheat the GC, and probably not recruiting their traitor for the same purpose.

This still leaves the door open as for the reason the RC would scum claim like that (perhaps they got PR vibes from Thor??).

I also thought 429 was a Vig crumb, but I see now that I read too much into it.

Then today's posts by tw.. a readlist that has brass as the main suspect with Wis/Math as town leans, followed by a brass/Maria scum team promotion in 436 (which does line up with the readlist)m but then voting Math in 632 instead of brass/Maria and keeping his vote there. I mean, there's something weird about tw's read progression and voting patterns as well as overall content that I just don't hard TR him like I did before.

[the worst]

that's a shite response

Talk to me postgame.

[the worst]

Do you think its unreasonable my reads have changed during that time JJD?

[HeWhoSwims]

VC2.2

the worst (4) (L-1):

brassherald, Mathdino, Wisdom, Judge Joseph Dress

Judge Joseph Dredd (1) (L-4):

MariaR

MariaR (1) (L-4):

Espeonage

Mathdino (1) (L-1):

the worst

Espeonage (1) (L-1):

Nauci

Not voting (2):

UglyDuck

the worst is at L-1

With 9 alive, 5 votes are needed for a lynch.

[the worst]

VC2.2

the worst (4) (L-1):

brassherald, Mathdino, Wisdom, Judge Joseph Dress

Judge Joseph Dredd (1) (L-4):

MariaR

MariaR (1) (L-4):

Espeonage

Mathdino (1) (L-1):

the worst

Espeonage (1) (L-1):

Nauci

Not voting (2):

UglyDuck

the worst is at L-1

With 9 alive, 5 votes are needed for a lynch.

Is

May wanna check those L-1s

[the worst]

Please post intent.before hammer if this isn't just a mood thang

[MariaR]

intent

eh why not

[MariaR]

I'm interested in this flip and want to see what Math and Wisdom have to say

[the worst]

:/

I'm goon cop. JJD isn't a goon.

[UglyDuck]

The hell is going on

[the worst]

Math is obvscum but they're lynching me anyway because ???.

[Nauci]

VOTE: UglyDuck

Welcome back

I'm having a really hard time taking that claim even half seriously

Why JJD

[the worst]

GC is a fucking lame investigative and imo JJD Math or you were optimal checks.

JJD:
> low likelihood NK target
> probtown
> not likely to be a scum pr

i.e. if he's scum I'd expect him to flip goon

I'll be copping Math tonight if both of us survive the day.

Where would you expect me to cop to make my claim "serious"? I get that I've dropped a few rungs in your readlist but that doesn't mean you can get away with not taking me seriously Nauci.

[Nauci]

You legit thought JJD could be goon to beefster's RC?

[the worst]

Not impossible no, and going by that response I'm worried I'm too disengaged from this game... Were you excluding that possibility without my clear?

[Nauci]

I need you to explain why Math is "obvscum"

[Mathdino]

I don't believe the claim.

Scum picked just a rolecop. Vig kill means they know the entire town composition.

[Wisdom]

I don't believe the claim.

[Mathdino]

We have 2 options:

1. Lynch the worst
2. Treat the worst as confscum and lynch his partner because you guys are cowards and are unwilling to lynch a claimed PR. Give him a night to get results, whatever.

Reasons why the claim is bullshit and the worst still makes sense with scum:
- Last Stack The Deck, town fucking failed to lynch SCUM CREATURE because of a L-1 Roleblocker claim. Scum only picked one mod so it was very low risk.

the worst played that game

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- They killed the IC because there's only one other PR anyway. Scum just have rolecop. Small chance of rolecop+recruit. No chance of rolecop+daytalk.

- the worst checking JJD, someone I was locktowning, after the lolhammer and the interactions there, is not good play.

- the worst saying he would check me, after it's clear to everyone and their mother that I can't possibly be a goon unless I'm specifically a recruited traitor, is not a realistic position to take.

- After the town composition was made obvious last night, the worst realised he could get away with playing like utter shit today by just using a PR claim as a backup. After all, if scum-Creature can't get lynched through a PR claim, he certainly can't, right?

- TW is better than this as town. I know he's better than this as town; literally just last game his reads were on point. He's playing lazy because PR claim.

- the worst is an original goon (making his "goon cop" worthless, he'll always get innos and will blame it on scum picking JOAT/BP). He and Beefster (a weak af team) picked only role cop so they could find all the PRs so they could figure out what their safeclaims were. They didn't recruit the traitor because that makes them susceptible to both vig and a real goon cop. Beefster played bad because he's bad at mafia. TW softbussed to distance.

the worst is scum, and if I see Stack the Deck lost another time to people refusing to lynch PRs because OH MAN SCUM PICKED 3 MODS I'm going to die inside.

The only other explanation I have for Beefster playing as badly as he did D1 is that he planned something out with his buddy where he scumclaimed as a preplanned bus. Everyone keeps asking "why does scum bus their rolecop". I don't think scum have daytalk however. Beefster was probably like "yo guys I'm site inactive and I'm playing like shit lately, just bus me on D1 or some shit".

So in the case of TW town, we should 100% be looking on the Beefster wagon.

[Wisdom]

Beefster was probably like "yo guys I'm site inactive and I'm playing like shit lately, just bus me on D1 or some shit".

then they dont give him rolecop

[Mathdino]

wdym?

Sidenote, TW scum means we're dealing with an unrecruited traitor, so take that how you will.

[Wisdom]

if he was like "bus me d1" he would stay a goon? why pick up rolecop on someone who wants to be bussed d1

[the worst]

- TW is better than this as town. I know he's better than this as town; literally just last game his reads were on point. He's playing lazy because PR claim.

trigGERED

[Wisdom]

TW scum means we're dealing with an unrecruited traitor

yeah, unless tw is hoping there isnt a goon cop, it means rolecop was the only modification