Open 719: Stack The Deck! (D4)

[Wisdom]

either that or hes trying to out pr(s) before he dies

[Wisdom]

Let's keep up my record of being lynched d2 in stack the deck for fucking awful reasons

Yeahhhhhh

btw goon cop doesnt say this

[Mathdino]

wisdom i'm gonna need you to link all the times you faked a townslip as scum and got locktowned for it

that's basically my next meta project so i'll know if you left anything out

ALSO

the worst even participated in that conversation with me at the beginning where i explicitly said that this setup is optimal for scum when they pick absolutely nothing

there's 0 chance he legitimately believes i could be a goon

[Mathdino]

And assuming for a second that the worst is actually town and not the other goon,

01.

the worst

02. Nauci
05. brassherald
07.

Espeonage

08.

MariaR

09.

Wisdom

10. UglyDuck
11.

Mathdino

12.

Judge Joseph Dredd

People that don't select the rolecop then kill the IC striked.

People that don't select the rolecop AND ANOTHER MOD and THEN KILL THE IC now striked.

From TW's point of view, one of {Nauci, brass, Duck} should be literal confscum.
Nauci is pretty obviously town for many reasons. He's townreading her.
brass is town by associations, he agrees with that.

How is he not scumreading UglyDuck here?

[Wisdom]

i dont remember faking townslips

[Mathdino]

Beefster was probably like "yo guys I'm site inactive and I'm playing like shit lately, just bus me on D1 or some shit".

then they dont give him rolecop

if he was like "bus me d1" he would stay a goon? why pick up rolecop on someone who wants to be bussed d1

this is a townslip in theory
pending review of what kinds of townslips wisdom is capable of faking

scum don't get to choose which of them get which modifications

wisdom you literally modded this setup, how did you not know that

[Wisdom]

i didnt? this is my first contact with this setup

[Mathdino]

Everyone keeps asking "why does scum bus their rolecop". I don't think scum have daytalk however. Beefster was probably like "yo guys I'm site inactive and I'm playing like shit lately, just bus me on D1 or some shit".

also lol i forgot that scum still get pre-game time AFTER receiving their mods to have a discussion

so this is also a townslip but i've faked townslips before (and i also modded this setup and should know better) so that's meaningless

[Mathdino]

lol wisdom

eh i buy it

current theory btw is the worst with UglyDuck traitor

[the worst]

Faking slips is lame.

Math is either grossly misrepping me or overestimating the fuck out of me

[Wisdom]

even if they dont get to choose, there's a 50% chance beef is the rolecop so he doesnt say bus me d1

[Mathdino]

You had really good intuition with noticing the bad D1 wagons all around. mutant and Screenplay were easy mislynches, and often are lynchbait in other games. Townhunting is often more important than scumhunting. Problem is I think Espeonage assumed you were scum who already knew they were town.

You nailed Jay and Montosh. Jay really outplayed town with the super convincing roleblocker claim.

the worst, you fully know i think highly of your towngame
and also your scumgame
i just don't believe you think i'm scum here

[UglyDuck]

either Math or Nacui (or both) are skum. I accidentally created too easy of an avenue for them to target me by being absent.
town - i am catching up now. Sorry for the lack in effort.

[Mathdino]

also ffs

i've JUST been posting about my tendency to scumread literally all the PRs

if you were actually a goon cop you'd be like "lol fuck you math stop scumreading PRs" and that would ever so softly clear me as town

i'm not beholden to the same burden of proficiency because

PRs and scum are literally all i scumread when i'm town

[Wisdom]

lol wisdom

i didnt even remember this
anatole just asked for someone to do vcs near the end of the game
i wasnt involved with the setup at all

[UglyDuck]

also ffs

i've JUST been posting about my tendency to scumread literally all the PRs

if you were actually a goon cop you'd be like "lol fuck you math stop scumreading PRs" and that would ever so softly clear me as town

i'm not beholden to the same burden of proficiency because

PRs and scum are literally all i scumread when i'm town

You are beholden to the same burden of proficiency to us, because we don't know you are town.

[Mathdino]

Lynch the worst --> shoot Espeonage --> lynch UglyDuck --> shoot/lynch MariaR
this wins the game 90% of the time
track/roleblock/cop wisdom or me if there's actually another PR out there

alternatively if you guys wanna be cowards about it
Lynch UglyDuck --> shoot Espeonage --> lynch the worst (after his result) --> shoot/lynch MariaR

[Wisdom]

i mean its pretty obvious ugly is also scum

[Wisdom]

either Math or Nacui (or both) are skum. I accidentally created too easy of an avenue for them to target me by being absent.

why not me? or jjd?

[Mathdino]

also ffs

i've JUST been posting about my tendency to scumread literally all the PRs

if you were actually a goon cop you'd be like "lol fuck you math stop scumreading PRs" and that would ever so softly clear me as town

i'm not beholden to the same burden of proficiency because

PRs and scum are literally all i scumread when i'm town

You are beholden to the same burden of proficiency to us, because we don't know you are town.

i'm talking to the worst here using terminology i know he gets
i think you're misinterpreting me

My argument on the worst: I know the worst is good at townplay and is good at townclearing people. He shouldn't think I'm scum. But hey, paranoia. Whatever. [/b]He should absolutely 110% know I'm not a fucking mafia goon.[/b]
- I don't need a role cop, I'm a human mafia role cop.
- I believe claimspace is better than getting fucked over by 4 or 5 PRs.
- I believe daytalk is the strongest mod in this setup.
the worst has burden of proficiency (and lol at how he brandishes his name so people underestimate him, I actually respect that strategy ). He's better than this.

the worst's scumread on me: Mathdino should know better than to be not reading me D1 then making a shit push on me D2.

This doesn't work though.
- I just lost to scum-TW after locktowning him D1, it's logical for me to be hesitant about townreading him again.
- I've read TW incorrectly in both games I played with him, and only correctly read him by forcing him to townslip. (He's drawing on meta that doesn't exist...)
- TW is aware of my tendency to scumread all the PRs. Me scumreading PRs is par for the course. Yet he thinks that I'm scum for it?

[Mathdino]

Basically, I don't have burden of proficiency with TW like he seems to be implying.

1. I am not proficient at townreading PRs.

2. I am not proficient at reading TW in particular.

Yet he's implying the opposite for both.

[UglyDuck]

either Math or Nacui (or both) are skum. I accidentally created too easy of an avenue for them to target me by being absent.

why not me? or jjd?

Honestly, you might be the other one. I just am catching up and haven't read that far back yet. I am literally always going to be ok with a JDD lynch when I am town so count me in for that if need be. You referencing the only other game I have played without noting I played the same way up to this point and then started interacting is also skummy. Except more lazy - which is also skummy. So yeah - go ahead and add yourself to my lynchable pool.

[Mathdino]

i will concede that uglyduck is independently of the worst, also scum.

[UglyDuck]

someone point out a town upside to Town!TW claiming Goon?

[Mathdino]

sure

1. He's actually the Goon Cop.