Open 719: Stack The Deck! (D4)

[Nauci]

I would like to hear from jjd and esp on whatever the fuck happened in the last 5 pages

[Mathdino]

I haven't sorted out Math motivations

just lemme know if/when you need the trump card of "math already meta'd nauci before team mafia tiebreakers"

i'd probably have to check with the mod given it's sitechat records so idk how angleshooty that is

my prediction: JJD lynches the fuck out of the worst or falls for uglyduck lynchbait and lynches him anyway
espeonage continues tunneling me and avoids lynching a PR claim just like in 711

[Wisdom]

imagine if esp and maria played town like town

[MariaR]

imagine if you took other peoples opinions into consideration instead of just calling them bad.

[Mathdino]

imagine if esp and maria played town like town

welcome to 2018 MS, wisdom

you're at the point where you play so pro-town as scum that it might actually just be bad for your wincon lol

[Wisdom]

imagine if you took other peoples opinions into consideration instead of just calling them bad.

youre right, ill consider its math/judge and they pick rolecop and kill the ic

/sarcasm

[the worst]

imagine if you took other peoples opinions into consideration instead of just calling them bad.

youre right, ill consider its math/judge and they pick rolecop and kill the ic

/sarcasm

Keeping an open mind. I dig it.

[Mathdino]

i see the worst is wholeheartedly adopting the jaydragonking method of scumplay

i also dig it

[the worst]

How would you categorise Jay's scumplay?
IME scummy as shit but bold and the mafia gods like him

[the worst]

But hey. My experience is limited.

He's also awesome

[Mathdino]

1. Stay in the background D1, make smart sounding statements but don't step on any toes. Never be the scummiest person.

2. Broadcast that you're gonna claim PR. Bonus points if you do this as town anyway.

3. Openly push scum wincon without looking like you're trying to. Play dumb at every opportunity. If experienced players are trying to lynch town, defer to them. Bonus BONUS points if they're trying to lynch good town.

4. Get indignant when people try to lynch you. OMGUSing acceptable.

5. Ham it alllll the way up to the point where half your posts are scumclaims while the other half are "townslips" and dumbtells because you're having fun playing scum and you're having fun fucking with town's heads. You're having even more fun when you know you won't get lynched through a PR claim.

sound about right?

[the worst]

Thats......detailed. i thonk you nailed it

Unfortunately I am town here, and aligned with the town.

[Mathdino]

And assuming for a second that the worst is actually town and not the other goon,

01.

the worst

02. Nauci
05. brassherald
07.

Espeonage

08.

MariaR

09.

Wisdom

10. UglyDuck
11.

Mathdino

12.

Judge Joseph Dredd

People that don't select the rolecop then kill the IC striked.

People that don't select the rolecop AND ANOTHER MOD and THEN KILL THE IC now striked.

From TW's point of view, one of {Nauci, brass, Duck} should be literal confscum.
Nauci is pretty obviously town for many reasons. He's townreading her.
brass is town by associations, he agrees with that.

does anyone disagree with this analysis btw?

[Wisdom]

i mean, tw doesnt necessarily share your views

[brassherald]

I'm not really believing the pr claim from The Worst. But, to give an opportunity to him. Did you crumb your role at all yesterday or before your full claim today?

[Mathdino]

i don't think TW as scum selects 2 mods, shoots the IC knowing there are 2 more PRs out there, and then builds up to a TPR fakeclaim

but we're lynching him today anyway so it doesn't really matter what scum-him picked tbh

i only struck him out of goon consideration in the scenario in which scum have 2 mods

Edit: he did not

[the worst]

I totally did.

[the worst]

goon cop bitchessss

VOTE: UglyDuck

Can't believe you all missed this.

[the worst]

I dislike D1 hinting generally unless my role sounds bad

[the worst]

My only pr meta is fucking scum me fucking fakeclaiming fuck

[Mathdino]

hahahaha
you're not doing well for yourself dude

How often does scum just pick nothing or pick only daytalk? I recall someone in the last game was talking about taking the two goon buffs to nullify GC which was interesting. Leaning on better setup specers than me as to whether this would actually work/whether people are likely to come up with it.

Last Stack the Deck Creature/Jay slot would have been a great d1 lynch until that damn claim. IC feels like an exceptionally good roll in this setup.

i did check, and for a second i thought "hey maybe this is a goon cop tell and TW will respond with quoting this post as evidence"

but he did not

so this wasn't a GC tell at all and TW is still scum

[brassherald]

I dislike D1 hinting generally unless my role sounds bad

So you dislike hinting, but straight up saying the role is okay?

[Mathdino]

brass confirmed not scum with TW

ya got baited, click the post

[brassherald]

brass confirmed not scum with TW

ya got baited, click the post

I feel dumb. I got into my cross examination mode without looking.

[Mathdino]

that's why ya gotta review all the statements before objecting, phoenix wright