Open 719: Stack The Deck! (D4)

[Nauci]

since there's a good chance that you get lynched, give us a final reads list pls?

[the worst]

me?

[Mathdino]

no, me

[the worst]

town: the worst, Nauci
townlean: Beefster, Thor665, brassherald
null: jmo16mla, Espeonage, MariaR
scumlean: Wisdom, UglyDuck
scum: Mathdino, JJD

pedit; oh my bad

[Mathdino]

holy fuck the worst is going to selfhammer when we put him at L-1

like he's in selfhammering zone nauci hahahaha

make sure i'm online when you hammer, i'm not giving him the hammer

[the worst]

hardclaim SK result on HeWhoSwims

[the worst]

do you want to hammer me out of spite mr. dino?

[Mathdino]

no i want to hammer you due to my ego/desire to be proven right

[Nauci]

what's the vc rn

[the worst]

no you want to hammer me because you're scum and I'm onto you

[the worst]

i think I only have 2 votes on me atm??

[Mathdino]

JJD, Wisdom, brass

5 to lynch, nauci gets the L-1 but i neeeeeed the hammer

[the worst]

ohhhh I can self-L-1 if you want the hammer??

[the worst]

jfc I just checked my role pm and I'm a miller vigilante mason
unvote right now

[Mathdino]

yeah but if you did that i'd feel bad about not letting nauci share the wagon

[the worst]

c'mon Nauci get in here

[Nauci]

Okay out of work woo really annoyed I wasn't around to def thor more shouldn't have tried to lurk but meh what you gonna do.
What is puzzling me is the fact Beef basically scumclaimed with his hammer. Why though? Yes he was getting scumread but the fact he kinda just scumclaimed with the "lol" not even putting a reason behind the vote is what makes it suspect to me it makes me feel like scum have more then just a rolecop cause I don't see why Beef just gives himself like that it also makes me think 1 person was trying to bus Beef early on cause you don't just lol bus a rolecop if that's your only pr. Why would you lol hammer like that? The 2 main things that come to my mind is A) Beef's teammates were in a really good spot and wanted day to end or B) His teammates were looking bad and he panic hammered. I'm trying to debate what one is more likely.

The second thing is the IC kill it makes me go "wtf" because killing an IC one that was lurking and not doing much is objectively bad compared to going for other kills that can be pr and assuming scum have more than a rolecop that's a death sentence my first thought was "it has to be noob scum" but still wouldn't noob scum understand that with the pr's they have killing the IC is dumb? I then thought that it could be pros wifoming but as I said before wifom can only get you so far before you get checked it's stupid.

After rereading these I think I get the gist now. I would be on board with the theory that beef's mate was in good standing while he fucked up so he would lolhammer even if it meant only 1 more day to live.

VOTE: Math lmfao still at page 20

D1 paranoia here was this is the first time Math hasn't tried to read me by like page 3. I was trying to work out if he had me pinned for a future mislynch but afrer one post (I'll find it if ppl want) I figured he was just being cautious bc he's underestimated my scum range before.

Lukewarm associatives and WIFOM about how scum!tw would play with town!math after our last game noice

The beef hammer makes me think scum were in a good spot thats what makes me pull to that side I don't think scum beef hammers that when brass is obv the next person to be lynched that just feels stupid it's why I'm looking at players like Wisdom as I said before his stance with Beef was ehh but that's not the main reason I think he should be lynched I think Wisdom is a smart enough player to know how to avoid situations that would put him is an awful spot like this. I think 1 scum is in Math/Wisdom but not both given their interactions because bussing with assuming scum have more prs=more town prs is suicidal at this point. Esps push also comes from town his tone also feels the same with Steam mafia that just ended I'm pretty good keeping him as town. I need to re read ugly cause I've mostly ignored that slot but first thing that came to mind is to put him in the same slot as brass

01. the worst
02. Nauci
05. brassherald
07.

Espeonage

08.

MariaR

09. Wisdom
10. UglyDuck
11.

Mathdino

12.

Judge Joseph Dredd

People that don't select the rolecop then kill the IC striked.

Need to read TW's scum PT in Earthbound, forgot to do that.

Not sure about Wisdom kill strategy.

Current hot take is that UglyDuck is a goon and TW is the traitor. Wisdom almost certainly scum if it's not either of the ducks.

I know it's dumb self meta but I'd like to point out that there's really no world where I'd look at a Stack the Deck setup and think that taking a rolecop would be a good idea. Even though I'd not played this before, it seems pretty obvious that scum advantage comes entirely from the openness and the more options picked, the worst it'd be. I'd probably pick up daychat as the only thing.

[Nauci]

I've reread day 2 and am pretty comfortable with a TW or UD lynch and I hope the other one gets vigged

last call for input from anybody else I guess

[Mathdino]

eyyyyyy

checking in just to say that a game just completed where espeonage tunneled the fuck out of me as town and mislynched me while i had 4/4 scumreads correct

and then got mislynched the next day as punishment

so i guess what i'm saying is i don't totally care about his reads right now given his track record
1. the last stack the deck (2 mislynches and 2 missed vig shots)
2. reck's game tunneling the shit out of me
3. singlehandedly pulling a lynch on town thor on bad meta

i mostly care about yours

[MariaR]

I'm fine with a tw lynch not a ugly lynch ty

[the worst]

VOTE: tw

Take ur best shot I am a spiteful cunt

[Mathdino]

gimme a second i'm dayvigging anyone who steals this hammer from me

[the worst]

VOTE: tw

[MariaR]

steal hammer you say?

[Mathdino]

VOTE: the worst