VARSOON VARIETY HOUR : GAME SCRAPPED

[Purple Heart]

lunch it

[Reasonably Rational]

lunch it

Do you think it's possible that slot can hold the same position I was suspicious of MC holding, in my "scum sent in the day ending action upon receiving a PT with B&M to frame them"?

I'm not familiar with Venmar's wiliness.
-Cerb

[Purple Heart]

(Idunno the answer to your question and I don't think I care tbh)
Cerby I can explain this with a mastina wall but no one wants to sit through that so instead I'm going to explain it with one quote and 1 sentence.

i should just lurk like dunn or snowman in my future games to just coast to victory

vote: gamma

going to sheep, also any player that taunts to be lynched deserves to be lynched

besides the fact that line one sounds extremely scummy and not town, the gamma vote, after hard defending gamma so much, reads like bussing.

Also if you're next question is
"What if Gamma is town?"
I am going to respond with lol and nothing else.

[Reasonably Rational]

(Idunno the answer to your question and I don't think I care tbh)
Cerby I can explain this with a mastina wall but no one wants to sit through that so instead I'm going to explain it with one quote and 1 sentence.

i should just lurk like dunn or snowman in my future games to just coast to victory

vote: gamma

going to sheep, also any player that taunts to be lynched deserves to be lynched

besides the fact that line one sounds extremely scummy and not town, the gamma vote, after hard defending gamma so much, reads like bussing.

Also if you're next question is
"What if Gamma is town?"
I am going to respond with lol and nothing else.

Hard defending gamma?

...

Please show me these examples of what you find to be "hard defending gamma"...because I certainly don't recall seeing anything close to that.

-Cerb

[Nancy Drew 39]

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I got lots of reading to do.

You have my sympathies.

[Purple Heart]

Spoiler: Venmar TRs Gamma

oh shit, this might actually be town gamma

well im back from work?

Ok to put my read really simply because I like to lie to myself and say I am studying while I procrastinate. And I am stupidly lazy atm.

Compare how Gamma plays in the average town game to his play here. Gamma is typically a super open player like Creature levels of open and it's just super apparent when you read his town games when nothing he posts makes sense because its all just his raw thoughts and it's just generally obvious town. And it's not like Gamma is at Mark's level where he can emulate that as either alignment.
Just generally i think his average town thought processes aren't really present and it feels a lot more like a player going through motions then anything else. Like his most recent post really just read as scum posting for the sake of it and I can pull up other posts but that is just the trend I get while reading his posts.

Like I feel like if you just read his ISO it's just really obvious there is just a closed nature to his posts that really is never there when he is town.
Sorry if this is poorly explained but that's generally why I think he is scum.

~B

i will note that i actually initially townread gamma for the completely opposite of this; i came in and i actually thought gamma's posting reminded me of his town play. i agree with your description of gamma's townplay and i think his posts like the ones above my #2237 fit the criteria of what i considered towngamma since a lot of them just look like he is dumping his thoughts into the thread.

that face when taly starts crumbling down your alisae townread

taly's push on gamma makes me hesitate. feels like an agenda-pushed read, taly's really just yelling gamma down for refusing to agree to a massclaim, which advocating for as he is here reads as super awkward since i don't think anyone here really knows what is going on and taly is giving me the impression that he somehow does?

taly can you lay out for me where alisae sits on the gamma read

okay, so idk what im at right now with this game

so let me say where i'm at right now with this game; here's where i'm at: i'm kind of lost. my #3272 came from a point of frustration based on the game changing flavours, and after recollection i'm actually still fine with alisae's slot, though i'm still definitely not happy with pushing a massclaim this early.

i find myself agreeing, yet being at conflict with my townreads. i think maid cafe and purple heart are solving this game, but i disagree with some of their reads that they are pushing hard right now, and by reads i really just mean the singular read of gamma. i am purely, and entirely, solely townreading gamma off gut. im definitely not qualified to make this read since my meta with gamma isn't THAT long, and i had troubles reading him in some games, but my honest to god, twitch, blind gut reaction to his posting here is that he is town. i still think gamma's posting is just like what i remembered it to be from valentines mafia, and i also townread gamma's frustration and exasperation since it's again something i associate with his town-range.

that said:

Gamma Emerald.
Almost50.
Baku and Munna.
Nacy Drew

~B

i think this is a good place to start. im still not sold on the micc slot, i still think micc's play was genuine though nacy drew is nulling the slot up by being, well, absent, though i'm still not ready to lynch the slot. i can definitely get behind baku and almost50 though since i think a50 is missing the direction and purpose i associate with his townplay, his play just feels apathetic and meandering, and my impression of baku's play as-so-far is just doing some very wolfy popins and doing some scummy posturing (their positioning regarding chara's claim mainly comes to mind).

vote: baku

^ i think this is the vote to go with today i think

Me and Claire decided claiming this was correct. (lol day roleblocker if thats a thing).

We can put 3 people in a hood RBing all of them.

We kinda want to use this to win the game on the spot.

~B

nutty. i think lynching baku and putting a50/gamma/?? in the neighborhood is the right play here. i'm more interested in testing gamma via the rb than lynching him to be honest.

The important points being:

Do you still believe B&M is the best lynch for today, in light of that information?
Do you think A50 is more or less likely to be scum now?
Do you believe there's any possibility of some subset of those four slots being scum *together*, and either working to coordinate distancing, or enacting bussing plans instituted once OTM/MC were both revealed as threats to B&M?
Do you think MC's reasoning that it's more valuable to lynch someone besides the person he thinks is guilty, and RB the less probable scum target, again, based on the reasoning he used, is something that comes from town!MC?


I'm sure there are other questions, but I think you get the point.
-Cerb

i still think baku is scum by play and probably our lynch for today. a50 is less likely to be scum in my eyes now because i think his frustration and anger came from a town mindset, though his play still doesn't make sense even for the a50 that i know.

idk which slots you're referring to when you say "those four slots", cafe has a couple variations. i don't think any of cafe's slot combinations for the scumteam are accurate since i don't think gamma is scum and i know i'm not scum.

i think mc is basically lock town so im only trying to figure out their thought process when i talk to them. i think it's always more proficient to lynch slots we KNOW are scum rather than the less likely scum slot so we can rb the other or some other confusing shenanigans.

afaik cafe also hasn't gotten back to me why they're randomly scumreading me.

im actually also still townreading gamma, for the record.

i know that doesn't make sense because im voting them, but this is entirely and purely a case of gamma, in my eyes, being town by play, but a lynch by mechanic. gamma's unlynchable claim is basically something i will always want to hard check in any game. i think gamma is bluffing/lying at best, lying at worst. he either gets lynched and flips scum for lying, or is actually unlynchable, in which case he isn't lying and we get a free night for all of us to be productive and use investigatives and hoods to catch scum. it's the play for today.

[Purple Heart]

Like my memory might be wrong
but from what I REMEMBER, Venmar definitely was defending Gamma somewhat hard

[Reasonably Rational]

Just ISO'd him.

His progression is pretty natural

490<<Suspicious of Gamma
1536<<Suspicious of Gamma
2237<<Reconsiders based on tone of recent posts
2795<<Reasonable explanation for change in read, states a disagreement in interpretation in posts between himself and MC to explain the read(he agrees with MC regarding what gamma's towngame looks like, but thinks the posts prior to 2237 sound like towngamma as described by MC.)
3335<<calls read primarily gut, cites lack of experience, and bows to the wisdom of others on the slot, at least going so far as to cite a lynchlist including gamma as a good place to start
3651<<votes gamma.

Like, between 2795 to 3335 one could argue there was a change, in that his read source went from meta experience to gut, but I don't feel like his explanation for the towngamma belief was thorough enough for me to really view that change as significant. That is, I find it more like that he conflated meta with gut, than that he screwed up as scum.

-Cerb

[Dunnstral]

i should just lurk like dunn or snowman in my future games to just coast to victory

The key is to post before you get replaced

[Titus]

Firebringer, tell me who has been in your shiny PTs Day 1 and Day 2.

[Chara]

welcome to the game, Fire.

sorry everyone, there are a lot of messages for me at the moment and i'm having trouble getting the energy to do much of anything (two things are not related). will get to it tomorrow.

[Skybird]

Hi Firebringer! Good to see you!

[Creature]

Who are we lynching today?

[Purple Heart]

Baku

[baku and munna]

fucks sake i just had a long poost typed out and then i got logged out for no reason

[baku and munna]

anyway to surmise
RR will respond to your post going through analysis
i dont think that scum were trying to frame me. doesnt seem likely as the reasoning wasnt rly caught onto for a while into the day phase and scum would have had a short time limit to do it.
ayy fire my dude
will work on trying to scumhunt and mebbe case people as people seem to be willing to listen which i wasnt rly expecting

[baku and munna]

also btw im still willing to claim what my gundam suit does if we go for the operation that stops scum using suits

[baku and munna]

sry cerb i know the post you mean but i cant find it for some reason :/ could you quote it for me plz

[Firebringer]

Firebringer, tell me who has been in your shiny PTs Day 1 and Day 2.

The Scum Lords, aka me and Funnstral

welcome to the game, Fire.

sorry everyone, there are a lot of messages for me at the moment and i'm having trouble getting the energy to do much of anything (two things are not related). will get to it tomorrow.

Ur rude

Hi Firebringer! Good to see you!

I have hard time believing u are happy to see me.
I’ve been very rude to you in past.


Also I still haven’t read anything, I am procrastinating this game like it’s an exam paper and it’s due by Monday.

[Reasonably Rational]

Fb, there's a mechanic that requires a choice in the first 48 hours of each phase, so you should probably at least read since day start and make a choice there(as well as in the faction PT)

-Cerb

[Skybird]

Rude FB? I don't really remember that. I remember you are a hard player who can be vocally very loud. As long as you are town, it's all good. If you are not town, go ahead and be rude so I know to lynch you.

[Skybird]

OK, I am under siege by Winter Storm Xanto with the possibility of 10-16" of snow in the next 24 hours. Hopefully we won't loose power up here in the Northwoods. But if I disappear, you will know why.

VOTE: Parliment

This does give us info so is the better choice.

[Reasonably Rational]

OK, I am under siege by Winter Storm Xanto with the possibility of 10-16" of snow in the next 24 hours. Hopefully we won't loose power up here in the Northwoods. But if I disappear, you will know why.

VOTE: Parliment

This does give us info so is the better choice.

Do you still have a role related PT with icon? And/or do you still have access to(that is, posting ability) within the previous PT?

-Cerb

[Chara]

so, i realized why my energy for this game dropped so much. it's very obvious, but still. it feels like beeboy has it on lockdown already. i thought it was because i missed that wincon, but it's not.

[Purple Heart]

so, i realized why my energy for this game dropped so much. it's very obvious, but still. it feels like beeboy has it on lockdown already. i thought it was because i missed that wincon, but it's not.

ofc he had it locked down imo