Newbie 1859 (Game Over)

[pinturicchio]

I think that an ofrhz/pin makes much more sense than a Scioness/pin pairing since we both tried to start a wagon on ruru at the end of D1 so it could be a reason to scumread us, so if ruru is town, that would be fair reason to think we are the scumteam.

@oxy

How does this fit into the 'ofrzh and pin are never a team' theory?

I disagree with this on a fundamental level, and I just made a post as to why.

If you forced me to analyze this statement,

From town!pin: The entire idea of arguing which person makes sense as your partner when you know you are town is kind of troll to begin with, so maybe that's where the reasoning ends. Otherwise, he just hasn't put much thought into it because why would he spend much time analyzing who he is town with, anyway?

From scum!pin: Attempt to wifom who his partner is - Did he say that scioness+pin would make sense because they are in fact partners, or is his partner skitter which is why he doesn't mention her at all

From town!me, it's important to address what people is thinking about me, to make it easier for them to sort me. I try to analyze myself even when I know my alignment to be the most transparent I can be.

[Oxy]

[quote="In post 1750
From town!me, it's important to address what people is thinking about me, to make it easier for them to sort me. I try to analyze myself even when I know my alignment to be the most transparent I can be.[/quote]
Great! =)

Help me sort you.

Are you scum with Ofrhz?

No?

Great! I came to the same conclusion.

Good talk!

[skitter30]

Oxy being alive in 5way is a decent indicator his reads are upside down or he's scum. Oxy being alive in 3way is a strong indicator his reads are upside down or he's scum.

Btw this doesn't necessarily hold if both me and him are alive on either of those days.

Why do you say this?

Cuz scum might think I'd stay tunneled in lylo and vote town!him.

Ie I'm specifically saying that if he's still alive and being townread by everyone (except for me, but I originally posted under the assumption I was about to be mislynched and no longer in the game), there has to be a reason he's a live in lylo. Like if he isn't really mislynchable cuz nearly everyone alive is townreading him, there's gotta be a reason why he's in lylo, and best I can come up with is that he's scum or town seriously misreading scum.

Whereas if I'm there, and I scumread him, its possible that scum thinks he's mislynchable in that scenario and wouldn't kill him.

[Oxy]

Again, I agree with this to some extent.

[skitter30]

I agree with this to a large extent.

[pinturicchio]

Help me sort you.

Are you scum with Ofrhz?

No?

Great! I came to the same conclusion.

Good talk!

Sorting me individually is not the same. I help you sort me by talking about what you or someone else is thinking about a possible ofrhz/pin team. Don't condescend me, Oxy, you know what I was talking about

[Scioness Sajj]

hi pintu are you scum?

[Oxy]

Help me sort you.

Are you scum with Ofrhz?

No?

Great! I came to the same conclusion.

Good talk!

Sorting me individually is not the same. I help you sort me by talking about what you or someone else is thinking about a possible ofrhz/pin team. Don't condescend me, Oxy, you know what I was talking about

apologies

[pinturicchio]

hi pintu are you scum?

No, I'm not

[Scioness Sajj]

okay, I trust you

[pinturicchio]

Are you scum Scioness?

[Scioness Sajj]

nope

[pinturicchio]

Okay, I trust you too

[Scioness Sajj]

awww ♥


i think you are lying though

[pinturicchio]

For the first time, I felt trusted in this game, and you take that from me that fast? Shame on you

[Oxy]

fwiw, pin, I think I'm coming around to town!pin like a year after I should have

[Scioness Sajj]

o, no!

i trust that you are town i don't think you believe that i am

[Assemblerotws]

Vote Count 2.10

ofhrz [2]:

skitter30, Scioness Sajj

skitter30 [1]:

Oxy

Scioness Sajj [1]:

ruru

Not Voting [3]:

northsidegal, ofrhz, pinturicchio

With

7

alive, it takes

4

to lynch.

Day ends in (expired on 2018-04-21 13:00:00) on

April 21, 2018

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[pinturicchio]

o, no!

i trust that you are town i don't think you believe that i am

At this point I'm not trusting my own reads so you not believing me makes sense. But I'm willing to trust you. You and skitter. And Oxy, in a less degree

[ofrhz]

@skitter, are you still scumreading Oxy in spite of your vote on me?

I’m townreading skitter because I couldn’t see the scum motivation in her voting Oxy. It actually feels like town skitter is tunneling him.

[ofrhz]

Scioness, how did you scumreading ruru so quickly?

[ofrhz]

Ebwop: stop scumreading

[Scioness Sajj]

do you think i should still be scumreading her instead of you?

[Scioness Sajj]

o, no!

i trust that you are town i don't think you believe that i am

At this point I'm not trusting my own reads so you not believing me makes sense. But I'm willing to trust you. You and skitter. And Oxy, in a less degree

you had pretty strong scumread on me, that's why I would be suspicious if you just dropped it over one question.
but it looks like you have iso'ed skitter? do you have some thoughts to share?

[skitter30]

@skitter, are you still scumreading Oxy in spite of your vote on me?

I’m townreading skitter because I couldn’t see the scum motivation in her voting Oxy. It actually feels like town skitter is tunneling him.

Yes, very much so. However I was also aware that I was sitting on a vanity wagon that no one else was joining so my vote wasn't really accomplishing much and so I decided to do something else.

Also I'm aware of the possibility that I might be tunneling him, but every other post from him makes me want to scumread him more .....

Also I'm seeing some parallels between how I'm reading oxy and the last time I was (wrongly) tunneled on someone (this doesn't happen often btw; last time I remember tunneling this bad and being wrong was ~August, and the time before was in June), which is why I think I might need to re-evaluate oxy from scratch but I don't think I can do that right now tbh. Like I don't think I can re-evaluate this objectively, so I think it might just be best if I focus on other things atm and try to figure him out later when I've not thought about him for a bit.

(And the only reason I got over the tunnel last time was cuz a dude who's towngame I respect immensely repped in thereabouts and talked me out of it. <3 bv if you're reading this btw )