Gunner Mafia [Endgame]

[Quick]

6. Rolecards do not have role names or win conditions. This game is villagers versus wolves.
The villager win condition is: You win if you eliminate all non- villagers.

wait now I just straight up don't get the VT not villager claim thing Quick

I cleared this up later... I said I could be SK.

And yas, there is an anti-claiming mech in the game.

the heck this mean

ur iso is hard to parse but i'm getting that you claimed villager because you thought scum wouldn't know
but its in the rules that its villagers and this had been quoted in the game by someone so

what is this SK thing

WIFOM... Bad WIFOM at that.

[MariaR]

is it bad i wanna tr nero just cause i think he's whining too much to be scum
also can we vote bins let's vote bins she's scum

you have a reason there or u just feeling like you wanna throw that out there to see if it actually sticks

your iso is full of filler and sheeping popular opinions and you feel nothing like team mafia.

[Creature]

Maybe we might somehow possibly lynch scum D1.

Then D2

Then D3

Then miserably get comeback'd

[beeboy]

I think I agree with the bins read.

Creature who do you think is scum atm?

[Bins]

is it bad i wanna tr nero just cause i think he's whining too much to be scum
also can we vote bins let's vote bins she's scum

you have a reason there or u just feeling like you wanna throw that out there to see if it actually sticks

your iso is full of filler and sheeping popular opinions and you feel nothing like team mafia.

this game is nothing like team mafia and why would I wanna emulate team mafia considering I threw it
I was trying to go tryhard and I just ended up second guessing my gut a lot

i dont think my reads follow popular opinion at all
the fact im voting the biggest wagon is also not something you can call out as bad unless you didnt like my vote, but i had expressed dislike in centipede before they even had two votes

i also havent read and stated clearly im just going to be parroting stuff i agree with
but i dont think people are in "majority" in agreeance with me idont think ive really discussed enough for you to get that feel

[Thor665]

VOTE: quick

Another naked vote.

I'd like to know what the reasoning was for this vote, thanks.

@Thor, Remember how I caught you with that little thing where you were talking to Town about how I was Scum without explicitly SRing me? I sorta feel this is the same type of thing... Screen doesn't give his reasons for SRing me until he accuses me of AtE.

Get a wagon going on him and I'd back it.I'd actually kind of like to see you off Brian and onto Hopkirk, personally, but Panopticon looks more interesting than Brian as a wagon to me also, which makes me wonder why you're spinning your wheels there.I can't even recall the last point anyone really advanced much on him - though I'll admit 10 pages back only takes us to yesterday evening, but still

Refresh your stale read or move?

My read's not stale Brian is still scummy

Is he though?
The best case I could describe on him is the odd reaction to Auska.
From what I've read of analysis of her posts and his posts at the time...I actually agree that his reaction was generally warranted.

Now, I can see you still thinking that's scummy, but...

1. Has he done nothing else worth voting over since?
2. Why aren't you advocating for him if you believe in the vote strong enough to park on it while the rest of the game is clearly ignoring him as an option now (and, indeed, some are starting to town sort him while you sit there silently)
3. You really have no *stronger* scum read on anyone else for any reason? (<--this is the part making me curl my toes at your play slightly)

Whassup?
I want to put you in a town sort - why you making it hard?

[Quick]

is it bad i wanna tr nero just cause i think he's whining too much to be scum
also can we vote bins let's vote bins she's scum

you have a reason there or u just feeling like you wanna throw that out there to see if it actually sticks

your iso is full of filler and sheeping popular opinions and you feel nothing like team mafia.

this game is nothing like team mafia and why would I wanna emulate team mafia considering I threw it
I was trying to go tryhard and I just ended up second guessing my gut a lot

i dont think my reads follow popular opinion at all
the fact im voting the biggest wagon is also not something you can call out as bad unless you didnt like my vote, but i had expressed dislike in centipede before they even had two votes

i also havent read and stated clearly im just going to be parroting stuff i agree with
but i dont think people are in "majority" in agreeance with me idont think ive really discussed enough for you to get that feel

Why are you tryana excuse your play rather than defend it?

[Thor665]

Whiffed that post...still back on page 35, but since for every page I read another pops up, might as well just break up this post.

from above - @Quick - basically you're just arguing that not explaining reads is scummy. I'll agree with that. Indeed, I've already said I scumread the slot. What point are you trying to advance here? I already town read you and scumread him, so...?

i actually don't mind being lynched if I'm sheeped unconditionally after and d1 lasts 75 pages or so.
for people who don't know I'd recomend them search around for certain things about me lel

Please don't waste time with AtE.
You've been called out on doing spit - you are half agreeing with it.
Either up your apparent activity, or accept that this is a scumtell you'll absorb repeatedly.
I don't like the yucky feel of the bargain toss out.

[Bins]

also there have been a lot of townreads thrown out that have been like "uh why"

beeboy townreads being one



I'm not really scumreading Maria but it would have been nice if I was

pedit - I don't see why I'm not allowed to say I don't think Maria's assessment is accurate? she's essentially calling me a sheep which is not necessarily a bad thing and something I tend to get called out for a lot near the start of games. I also do have some original reads and I came in here saying I liked Quick's entrance and I think GreyIce is town and she's telling me I'm following popular opinion lol

[MariaR]

Every single one of your votes has been on popular wagons and timing that makes me go :think: nor do you look genuine I was already scumreading you a bit before and this is just helping but hey as I said with gork if you wanna just call me scum go ahead the questions you ask have no follow up and you seem like you're posting just to post.

aaaand I'm board again

[Quick]

[quote="In post 1082, Thor665"]from above - @Quick - basically you're just arguing that not explaining reads is scummy. I'll agree with that. Indeed, I've already said I scumread the slot. What point are you trying to advance here? I already town read you and scumread him, so...?/quote]

Perspective so people can see where I am coming from so I can nail my SRs to the cross.

[Centipede Syndrome]

Whiffed that post...still back on page 35, but since for every page I read another pops up, might as well just break up this post.

from above - @Quick - basically you're just arguing that not explaining reads is scummy. I'll agree with that. Indeed, I've already said I scumread the slot. What point are you trying to advance here? I already town read you and scumread him, so...?

i actually don't mind being lynched if I'm sheeped unconditionally after and d1 lasts 75 pages or so.
for people who don't know I'd recomend them search around for certain things about me lel

Please don't waste time with AtE.
You've been called out on doing spit - you are half agreeing with it.
Either up your apparent activity, or accept that this is a scumtell you'll absorb repeatedly.
I don't like the yucky feel of the bargain toss out.

have you read or are you aware of inventions mafia

[Quick]

from above - @Quick - basically you're just arguing that not explaining reads is scummy. I'll agree with that. Indeed, I've already said I scumread the slot. What point are you trying to advance here? I already town read you and scumread him, so...?

Perspective so people can see where I am coming from so I can nail my SRs to the cross.

EBWOP

[GreyICE]

I think every vote on Quick is because people are tired of him generating almost 8 pages of "content" in a game that's less than two days old. I know between him and Torantaga I'm damn close to replacing out because this shit is dreadful to read, and I'm coming close to supporting a policy lynch.

[Gorkington]

vote: vvulf

sure

[Nero Cain]

1. Toranaga (they've said some things i agree with but i can't shake the feeling something isn't right. gut read)

21. Nero Cain (I was townleaning you before, but I'm reading your argument with Toranaga being a lot less productive than it could have been)

This feels like playing both ends against the middle and I hate it.

True, the thing I hate most about Tor is how he was playing a balancing act with his Creature read.

Sure, what are your thoughts on Nero atm?

What made you want to talk about me?

[Srceenplay]

Now, I can see you still thinking that's scummy, but...

1. Has he done nothing else worth voting over since?
2. Why aren't you advocating for him if you believe in the vote strong enough to park on it while the rest of the game is clearly ignoring him as an option now (and, indeed, some are starting to town sort him while you sit there silently)
3. You really have no *stronger* scum read on anyone else for any reason? (<--this is the part making me curl my toes at your play slightly)

Is this toward me?


1: Idk. I’m 10-ish pages behind.
2: I did ask for their lynch. It’s not my style to make elaborate cases. I can’t do that. I see weird shit that pings me and I go vote it.
3: Not really. Brian pinged me earlier but I don’t remember why. I would have to iso.

[Bins]

Every single one of your votes has been on popular wagons and timing that makes me go :think: nor do you look genuine I was already scumreading you a bit before and this is just helping but hey as I said with gork if you wanna just call me scum go ahead the questions you ask have no follow up and you seem like you're posting just to post.

aaaand I'm board again

would you rather I push unpopular wagons I don't truly believe in and have them go nowhere

[MariaR]

Every single one of your votes has been on popular wagons and timing that makes me go :think: nor do you look genuine I was already scumreading you a bit before and this is just helping but hey as I said with gork if you wanna just call me scum go ahead the questions you ask have no follow up and you seem like you're posting just to post.

aaaand I'm board again

would you rather I push unpopular wagons I don't truly believe in and have them go nowhere

Fair point. Do you believe all the popular wagons are scum atm or better yet can you give a few sentences on why you sr the people you do rather then just "I can do this" and place down a vote

[Creature]

MariaR, can you read Tchill?

[Creature]

lol that game someone thought we would lose to Mumble and katherine

[Toranaga]

1. Toranaga (they've said some things i agree with but i can't shake the feeling something isn't right. gut read)

21. Nero Cain (I was townleaning you before, but I'm reading your argument with Toranaga being a lot less productive than it could have been)

This feels like playing both ends against the middle and I hate it.

True, the thing I hate most about Tor is how he was playing a balancing act with his Creature read.

Sure, what are your thoughts on Nero atm?

What made you want to talk about me?

a balancing act? pfft. are you trying to make me scumread you now? what the hell are you talking about?

[Toranaga]

yeah maria can you ISO tchill then join his wagon? it's quite a terrible ISO and it's especially worse in context with the timing he made the posts he made

opengivenup wolf imo

[MariaR]

MariaR, can you read Tchill?

I'd say I can pretty well let me take a look

[Bins]

Fair point. Do you believe all the popular wagons are scum atm or better yet can you give a few sentences on why you sr the people you do rather then just "I can do this" and place down a vote

I'm scumreading Centipede for similar reasons I think to you scumreading me which is I don't feel like their posting is genuine and it's fairly empty and similar to how I like to feign importance and interest in the game as scum