NEWBIE 1858: MEDICAL MAFIA (fin)

[Draynth]

Also I'm not saying POE is an inherently bad scum hunting tool, I'm trying to explain that from my POV it doesn't accomplish much if you don't have any actual scum tells / inklings / anything to pair with it.

Well let's put it the way you put it.

3 people are being suspected 2 have good reasons 1 refuse to speak.. Does he get a pass? How can we get a scum tell coming from him if he refused to speak in the first place?

That's what NM is doing this game he's just repeating himself like a douche without explaining or saying anything valuable.

I completely agree with you, it's god damn infuriating, but in my eyes it's way more anti-town than scummy. Also having played with him before (If I remember correctly) it's who he is when he plays. I'm not happy about it, but I also can't really think of any reasons why scum!NM would actually do it at all given how much attention it brings.

Who knows maybe he'll surprise me and actually say something other than 'Shatt is obvscum' but if not, he's getting lynched today or tomorrow either way.

[Shattiel]

Ok so like shat not voting wheme is added to the bad stuff pile.

not sure why I would vote him

Hello people.

Some fun things happened last night. For instead I have a lovely pm from my good friend bins that Wheme is a dirty, stinking, Mafia scumbutt.

Considering how obviously scum shat is, I reckon we win tomorrow.

vote: Wheme

oh I missed this post

So 2creat is indeed scum kek
I told you scum would make bad jokes on d1

Why didn't you vote Wheme at this point

does it matter? He's already outed I wanted some discussion before ending the day

[Shattiel]

Also I'm not saying POE is an inherently bad scum hunting tool, I'm trying to explain that from my POV it doesn't accomplish much if you don't have any actual scum tells / inklings / anything to pair with it.

Well let's put it the way you put it.

3 people are being suspected 2 have good reasons 1 refuse to speak.. Does he get a pass? How can we get a scum tell coming from him if he refused to speak in the first place?

That's what NM is doing this game he's just repeating himself like a douche without explaining or saying anything valuable.

I completely agree with you, it's god damn infuriating, but in my eyes it's way more anti-town than scummy. Also having played with him before (If I remember correctly) it's who he is when he plays. I'm not happy about it, but I also can't really think of any reasons why scum!NM would actually do it at all given how much attention it brings.

Who knows maybe he'll surprise me and actually say something other than 'Shatt is obvscum' but if not, he's getting lynched today or tomorrow either way.

nah he's getting lynched today.

Even if it's not for poe I'd rather bring a scummy person in lylo than a potato who only votes for no reason.

[Not_Mafia]

Omg

[schadd_]

VOTE: 2Create
the last post has the possibility of being AI. actually, everything that sounds like a joke but is obviously thought through and involves voting, could be AI. not sure in what direction yet though

If you're not sure which alignment the post made you think 2create was then why did you vote them anyway?

this is only kind of defending (in conjunction with 58) but it makes a good bit of sense as like data gathering whether the vote needs worrying about

that's something i occasionally feel as scum, like, any early pressure-y stuff on me or a partner i will want to have some plan for how to deal with and i want to do something about it that isn't an obvious hard defense

[schadd_]

(

For the sake of everyone's sanity

avoid

posting a massive wall wherever possible please

)

ok i knew there was someone still alive for whom i was doing this

my habit is usually a big ol' wall with a bunch of quotes in it but this style also makes my post count bigger which is always a plus

[schadd_]

[quote="esp: "2010 scum"; shatt: "fuk u" "]...

Think I agree with Espeonage here
Seems super flippant, and the follow up 'Everyone here is null by the way' feels like an excuse to try and prevent and pressure being applied because of it[/quote]
this i think is the big point in favor of draynth town, in conjunction with 314

it's a sort of internal consistency type thing, the reasoning of these two posts is very similar. town does that very often because ... they are the same person and will view situations in a similar way, and scum can e.g. worry "oo am i doing too much of the same reasoning"

so i guess him being scum necessitates that he's the kind of person that can fake reasoning pretty naturally (for this and a couple other things i think)

[schadd_]

Maybe it's just me but pre flip I rarely look for associations like this.
Could be a personal gameplay thing but it's rarely useful to do so and it's the type of thing scum like to fake to appear townie in my experience

meernhnh i guess one doesn't especially have reason to lie about experiencial stuff like that but like, do you really not see town doing preflips often

[Draynth]

(

For the sake of everyone's sanity

avoid

posting a massive wall wherever possible please

)

ok i knew there was someone still alive for whom i was doing this

my habit is usually a big ol' wall with a bunch of quotes in it but this style also makes my post count bigger which is always a plus

Like I don't mind them if they're not a big mess, but for example Shatt's response to Rei on the last page was a pain to go through because it wasn't formatted.
I completely understand that walls are somewhat unavoidable, but I said this at a point in the game where I felt that it was avoidable.
It's a selfish thing to ask though, I get that

Maybe it's just me but pre flip I rarely look for associations like this.
Could be a personal gameplay thing but it's rarely useful to do so and it's the type of thing scum like to fake to appear townie in my experience

meernhnh i guess one doesn't especially have reason to lie about experiencial stuff like that but like, do you really not see town doing preflips often

I see it all the time and think it's pointless.
Why bother wasting so much time and energy thinking about:
"Well if A is scum, then B and C are definitely town but D is probably scum too.
But if B is scum, then D is still scum but C might be..."
You get the idea.
I think Town is far better served trying to get as much actual information not based on random conjecture while they can.
And as I said above I think it's something scum do quite often to appear as if they're contributing.

[Draynth]

Schadd who do you think is scum right now if you had to guess?

@Mod
Can we get a prod on Rei whenever you get a chance? Thanks

[Rei]

@Shat i can understand a bit which answer is for what
I still dont get though why you gave a pass to 2crea when you didnt townread him as much as you did to scahadd

[Shattiel]

soul
Rei
Draynth
Not_Mafia
Espeonage

As of right now I'm pretty sure 1 scum is here and around 70% sure two scums are here. It's still pretty early but let's see.

If you're not townreading Rei, do you think her latest posts were NAI? What is your read on her? And why are you townreading 2cre?

not exacly nai I'm just not sure how to approach her posts. It could come from mafia/town from my pov because most of her posts are just a counter attack to 2creats post.

2cre isn't a solid town read. That long post he made in reply to rei sounds genuine.

saying he "isn't a solid town read" when pressed is mreennhh but this also just strikes me as not caring about a narrative

I just really forced that townread on 2c though. There's hardly anything I could read people at that time.

@Rei
After that I pretty much just went V/LA for the whole d1 so I wasn't able to backread or focus on other people other than espeo

[Draynth]

Rei do you think NM or Shatt is more likely scum?

[Not_Mafia]

Shatt

[Draynth]

Thanks for the input

[Rei]

@dray probably shat
It scares me though because it makes me think the reason I’d go for shat is because nm has barely any content so we cant actually read him
I’d rather finish isoing tho before i lynch

[Draynth]

Presumed as much
4 days left anyway, more than enough time to discuss

[Shattiel]

Kek idk why I'm scum..
But it's gonna be NM or Me this day and really NM's iso doesn't take a whole day just even a minute.
Idk why you guys are taking their time I've already answered everyones question what else is there to discuss?

[Shattiel]

Just pick a side. This day have gone for too long and

and mostly it's just me answering everyones question while NM is just being a potato.
Just pick then end this.

[Draynth]

(I'm just waiting for Rei and schadd to finish up)

[Shattiel]

(I'm just waiting for Rei and schadd to finish up)

Pick a vote then.

[Shattiel]

I'm done here.
If you guys still think I'm scummy after everything I've said then I'm not even gonna bother anymore.

So just vote

[Draynth]

I'd prefer to wait for them to make their minds up thanks

[Shattiel]

I'd prefer to wait for them to make their minds up thanks

so you're just gonna go with the flow?
That's oppurtunistic

[Not_Mafia]

I agree with Shat, just vote, this is pointless