Newbie 1859 (Game Over)

[skitter30]

Okay. I legit don't see my town tell this time, but whatevs. I'll be around this evening.

My gut started pinging me around the time I made that post with yellow writing inserted into your quote explaining how your quote was scum. Take a look at my ISO from then onward.

Specifically this.

I went back and checked, and the timeline matched up pretty much exactly. It's hard for me to imagine that scum, 5 days later, would be able to pinpoint the exact post where a fabricated scumread became a gut townread, and that everything they posted afterwards matches that POV.

It makes more sense to me that like that was a natural turning point in someone's read that was memorable to them for whatever reason.

[skitter30]

I really, really don't think ofrzh is scum.

[Oxy]

Liek the whole case here is a big maybe. She doesn't commit yet demands that I should address it. Come on.

So i read through your post

Every time you ask if she is scum reading you for something - the answer is, yes. She is.

A lot of what you dismiss should not be dismissed.

I don't agree with every point she makes, for instance I don't really find your 217 and 284 to be that weird

but a lot of it rings true...

Maybe you should read it again? Idk.

[Oxy]

Yo, skitter!

How do you feel about walking through slots 1 by 1 real quick with me?

Easy ones: NSG - we're both on board that sheeping dino is correct here, right?
Ruru: Are we both on the ruru town train yet?

[skitter30]

Sure.

I'm actually not sure if sheeping dino is correct. Like intellectually I know it probably is, but I'm kinda running out of places where scum could be, and I personally don't townread her.

Also ruru is a tentative townread atm cuz she voted scioness instead of me, but like, probably weakest level of townreads. And since I'm like townreading everyone, it isn't a strong enough townread for me to take her out of my lynchpool atm.

[Oxy]

Maybe they weren't the easy ones. =)

My personal opinion on NSG, based on reasons that should not be gone into, is that she is bored of this game.

I know she talked about feeling disconnected/unwelcome

this is separate from that, but yeah she feels less connected, and that makes it hard to town read her independently. I have a hunch that lylo nsg will kick it up a notch in the bleed town dept.

[skitter30]

Yeah, that's the vibe I'm getting too. Like she feels very disconnected and like she just doesn't really care. It's hard for me to townread someone who isn't really here. Like I don't get the vibe she actually wants to solve the game.

Like I get math townread her, but someone telling me they have a townread isn't the same thing as me having a townread, even though I know that person is supposed to be pretty accurate.

And thinking she might kick it up a notch later doesn't really help when we kinda need her input today.

[northsidegal]

it's not that i don't care, quite the contrary actually. (by the way, bad timing on checking the thread again when people are talking about me)

i care a lot about this game. the thing is, i don't really feel good about my ability to solve or my ability to productively contribute to discussion.

[northsidegal]

I think i want to lynch scioness.

Like, I still feel like this isn't her scumgame but going off of a lot of other assumptions, anything but Pintu + Scioness just doesn't make sense to me.

[Oxy]

Can you explain why you feel that way?

and/or

Is there something we can do to better position you for success?

[northsidegal]

Vote Count 2.12

ofhrz [3]:

skitter30, Scioness Sajj, pinturicchio [L-1]

Scioness Sajj [3]:

ruru, Oxy, ofrhz [L-1]

Not Voting [1]:

northsidegal

With

7

alive, it takes

4

to lynch.

Day ends in (expired on 2018-04-21 13:00:00) on

April 21, 2018

.

[Scioness Sajj]

Damn nsg I feel betrayed.

[Oxy]

I must admit, I haven't kept up on votes, but I'm pretty sure neither of those wagons are still L-1. Don't quote me on that, tho

[northsidegal]

Can you explain why you feel that way?

and/or

Is there something we can do to better position you for success?

haha, i feel very flattered at you taking the steps to include me, but i think it's as you said. i think no matter how today turns out that if i survive through the night i'll be able to kick things into gear for tomorrow, either after a scum lynch or to solve in lylo.

if you were asking about why i feel that way about the scioness lynch, as i said, it's based off of a few assumptions. One thing i can just point to, though, is that votecount right there.

Knowing that I'm town, we know that both scum are somewhere on the two wagons. Now, what do you think the odds are that both scum are voting separately?

If both wagons are on town, then i think it's possible that the scumteam would have their votes split up. But, if one of the wagons were on scum, then of course both scum would be voting on the other wagon. That's kind of what i'm seeing right there.

[skitter30]

Idk. How do you think the rest of us can make you feel more involved? You just feel very .... lackluster and indecisive, idk.

Like your posts from this morning were kinda, like, meh to me. Like there were two L-1 wagons and I didn't really get the vibe that it mattered to you which one went through.

Also I really, really don't think pin is scum. I really don't think scioness is scum. (Slightly less sure on scioness).

[Scioness Sajj]

Yeah skitter and ofrhz unvoted

I don't really know how lynching me would actually help here if you are not scumreading me nsg

[northsidegal]

Damn nsg I feel betrayed.

it's so hard for me to say this because, like i said before, i really don't

want

you to be scum here. like, i feel like i see you as town from your play, but a lot of other things point to you being scum.

i'm going to say the same thing i said last time, if you're scum i think you're playing an amazing game - even moreso than last time, and with the added comment that your scumgame improved massively i think just since that last game.

[Oxy]

Can you walk me through the Pin read?

He's right about me - My read on him has been ping ponging all game

[Oxy]

that's @skitter, but anyone really

[pinturicchio]

Yeah skitter and ofrhz unvoted

I don't really know how lynching me would actually help here if you are not scumreading me nsg

Um, ofrhz hasn't unvoted, you're still on L-1

[Scioness Sajj]

I mean I guess there is an upside to lynching in {me, ofrhz}

Listen nsg I'm basically Profii this game.

No clue what things point to me being scum.

[northsidegal]

Idk. How do you think the rest of us can make you feel more involved? You just feel very .... lackluster and indecisive, idk.

Like your posts from this morning were kinda, like, meh to me. Like there were two L-1 wagons and I didn't really get the vibe that it mattered to you which one went through.

Also I really, really don't think pin is scum. I really don't think scioness is scum. (Slightly less sure on scioness).

i don't think you should consider the onus on you to make me feel involved.

if your goal is just to get me to post more, though, over just trying to make me feel involved, i'd just yell at me more about how i'm being disappointed. (not being snarky / ironic here)

i didn't get that much time to read through this morning, i made those posts from my phone.

i agree with you on both of those reads, in terms of reads. the question becomes - who else could be scum?

Yeah skitter and ofrhz unvoted

I don't really know how lynching me would actually help here if you are not scumreading me nsg

like i said, i think you're decently likely to be scum, it's just that by play i feel like you've been towny.

[Scioness Sajj]

Since you are mentioning my scum game like this is that intent to hammer?

[Oxy]

Pin right, sajj at L-1

[northsidegal]

i would like you to claim, yes.