Newbie 1859 (Game Over)

[pinturicchio]

@skitter about my backwards reads...
I don't think I make them only as scum, but thanks for the advice to get better at making reads!

[Scioness Sajj]

ah the Oxy thing well, all the lamist things he said felt forced to me and that tunnel and people scumreading me for I still don't really know for what that early in the game.

I felt that I needed him gone to play the game it didn't really matter to me if he was town or scum when I posted my case, so that probably also this.
and I was overproducing content becuase I thought that people didn't understand me becuase I can't speak enlgish. Idk, d1 was awful for me.

[pinturicchio]

ah the Oxy thing well, all the lamist things he said felt forced to me and that tunnel and people scumreading me for I still don't really know for what that early in the game.

I felt that I needed him gone to play the game it didn't really matter to me if he was town or scum when I posted my case, so that probably also this.
and I was overproducing content becuase I thought that people didn't understand me becuase I can't speak enlgish. Idk, d1 was awful for me.

I feel you. That's why I wrote #486 to you, it was obvious that you weren't having fun at that point

[Oxy]

ah the Oxy thing well, all the lamist things he said felt forced to me and that tunnel and people scumreading me for I still don't really know for what that early in the game.

I felt that I needed him gone to play the game it didn't really matter to me if he was town or scum when I posted my case, so that probably also this.
and I was overproducing content becuase I thought that people didn't understand me becuase I can't speak enlgish. Idk, d1 was awful for me.

Sorry, about that Sajj.

I did the about face in part because I was like oh no reacting like this she could well be pr

but also because I didn't want to ruin your fun.

I hoped that helped with the rest of d1

[skitter30]

ah the Oxy thing well, all the lamist things he said felt forced to me and that tunnel and people scumreading me for I still don't really know for what that early in the game.

I felt that I needed him gone to play the game it didn't really matter to me if he was town or scum when I posted my case, so that probably also this.
and I was overproducing content becuase I thought that people didn't understand me becuase I can't speak enlgish. Idk, d1 was awful for me.

Sorry it was difficult for you

I thought your day1 was pretty strong tbh.

And once I realized English was your second language a lot of the awkwardness in your posting that people were scumreading you for became NAI and I kept on trying to point that out because the reasons you were being scumread were kinda inane imo

[Mathdino]

You guys shouldn't worry about overproducing content as long as it's good content!

There were tons of good stuff I found reading through the game, in everyone's ISOs. It just got drowned out by the 1v1s and back-and-forth overexplanations.

Personally, I don't think a good case or a good defence needs to be COMPLETE. One of my best scumgames involved me basically mislynching someone for trying to come up with a "Here's why every one of Mathdino's posts scream scum".

But when you try to go THAT all-encompassing, you WILL fuck up. No one is scum by every post, and no one is town by every post. And no one is good enough to make a totally airtight case! So I crucified an otherwise fantastic player by saying "Hah, see, she messed up points #3 and #6, therefore she's scum!"

You find the good points and you stick to them. And you broaden your good points to include more good points and suddenly you have an entire theory of the game. But you don't have to respond to or comment on every post, because while it may feel more complete, it often won't help with the ultimate goal -- finding town and catching scum.

You had a lot of good points, Scioness. I agree that when you felt backed into a corner you overcompensated a bit. You didn't need to! Your English/debating skills are actually really good and I found myself following a lot of your posts until you accidentally ran into weaker points.

[Oxy]

@dino

In our back and forth, I don't make that town slip unless you flatter me like you did.

so well played there.

[pinturicchio]

That being said: hi NSG, welcome! I think this is the best replacement we could get for this game!

flattering!

can i assume from you saying this that you're not scared of me catching you like last time?

Haha I just meant that you have great reads, and I know that because of that game. But I'll give you that: neither as town or scum I would be scared as I learnt a lot from than game!

Just wanted to say that post 308 was the post that scared me the most in this game, and that 322 was the reply I took the longest to think what to say

[Mathdino]

I'm fairly sure that exchange was what fooled her, lol. Well done. You deserve more scum wins than you've gotten after
1. town literally won a 50/50 call
2. town won because of PoE and hilarious claims

I was cracking up when I woke up and read through the 4th claim.

[skitter30]

neapolitan role blocked checking skitter

I was nea-hunting early day2 cuz I was pretty sure nearly everyone checks me as nea last night, and I was hoping I could townbin someone for inexplicably townreading me at daystart.

[Oxy]

I was hoping to town bin you early d2

[Oxy]

i think more of you should /in for this 721. I promise to have a more moderate footprint

[pinturicchio]

I'm in, brassherald is a fine chap, the setup seems fun and it looks like we're dominating the queue

[Oxy]

so far dino, skitter, pin, and I are in it

[Mathdino]

oh btw i know the "don't take my mean things personal" is kind of a tired cliche

but i really would hope people don't take it personal when i criticise people ingame

things like "this case is garbage" or "your reads are all wrong and anti-town" or "omfg i'm not reading the game thanks to these trash walls"

ultimately it is a game and it's not really something i'd say outside of the context of a social game

i say those things not to breed toxicity (although i apologise if it has that side effect) but to project confidence/power over the game for my slot

to get what i want, basically. and i think the fact that most of that is an act goes pretty unrecognised in forum mafia.

mafia is emotionally rough and super harsh critique of people's play (not of them as a person but of their play) is entirely within the rules and the context of the game

so if you're not into that, i totally get choosing not to play

but if you can recognise that basically everyone in mafia is putting on an act (even town), the game can get a lot more fun

so i hope everyone here sticks around!

[ruru]

Does it say anywhere how long are days? I kind of want to sign but I don't know how much of a time commitment it would be

Also I don't want to ruin the game by making pin replace out if we both roll scum

[Mathdino]

Hahaha.

No harm in asking in the queue! Standard on this site is usually 2 weeks but mods pretty much get to choose. I personally decrease deadlines as people die.

Fair warning that it's 13p so 4 more players to keep track of. Can be more fun (as games will last about 2 game days longer than 9p games do) but it can also be overwhelming for some people.

[ofrhz]

LOL ruru

I feel like I need to play another newb game cuz I didn’t play well this game. But I’ll be cheering all of you on from the sidelines!

[pinturicchio]

Does it say anywhere how long are days? I kind of want to sign but I don't know how much of a time commitment it would be

Also I don't want to ruin the game by making pin replace out if we both roll scum

Lol ruru, I loved playing with you, including you throwing the game, that was a good laugh

[Oxy]

ofrhz, you called out scum in like the first 2 pages, and I think(?) you had pintu in your scum pool for a good while.

come on, mate!

ruru, you should play, too! I bet pin would welcome the chance to scum with you again. I would like to scum with you as well

[pinturicchio]

LOL ruru

I feel like I need to play another newb game cuz I didn’t play well this game. But I’ll be cheering all of you on from the sidelines!

You should play with us ofrhz. My second game in this site was an Open game and one of the worst things about it was that everyone knew each other so I felt a little off there, but in this game you will know at leas 1/3 of the players, so it could be a great experience to improve. I'm still pretty newbie, Oxy is new too, so it won't be a overwhelming game

[Mathdino]

haha, up to them

13p games are definitely intimidating

if you wanna follow the game you should be able to PM the mod and ask to spectate

mods usually throw spectators in with the dead PT

[skitter30]

LOL ruru

I feel like I need to play another newb game cuz I didn’t play well this game. But I’ll be cheering all of you on from the sidelines!

You should play with us ofrhz. My second game in this site was an Open game and one of the worst things about it was that everyone knew each other so I felt a little off there, but in this game you will know at leas 1/3 of the players, so it could be a great experience to improve. I'm still pretty newbie, Oxy is new too, so it won't be a overwhelming game

Yeah, I agree tbh.

Scaling up from 9->13 is a bit hard at first imo, and I imagine it would probably help if you already knew a bunch of players.

[ofrhz]

Ugh it’s so tempting but I also go on vacay in a few weeks

I’ll def be spectating and spamming the dead pt

[Oxy]

alright, mate! Had a blast playing with you. Sorry for scum reading you, d2