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Post Post #4850 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:19 am

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Im starting to think that red is bp and they mightve been hit by orange tonight and/or i was shot and/or gamma was shot (less likely by orange)
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Post Post #4851 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:19 am

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In post 4848, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 4844, Joey_ wrote:BTW thinking about it, a50 was red's night kill, they probably thought they would hit orange rel spreader
that is true, if so red is hunting orange which may mean the Nero kill could implicate people suspecting him
PEdit: yes I commuted, but who among orange scum would want to kill me? I'd consider a last red more willing to kill me because my track would be able to clear someone from being it
fucking, i keep answered you w/o reading the totality of your posts #OTM
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Post Post #4852 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:20 am

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because I had forgotten about the game and didn't really have a good idea of who to track
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Post Post #4853 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:20 am

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hm, are you okay with using it tonight ? its fine if you get killed for it since you have no power left, oki?
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Post Post #4854 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:21 am

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BTW gamma, read klazoum flip flopping while claiming, i think hes bp
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Post Post #4855 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:26 am

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don't have really any time for right now, but i don't want to lynch Mark. i see how he's coming to his conclusions and in fact i agree that Shaziro isn't clear by his claim even if i don't think he's scum.

i don't think red would be hunting orange. but red being BP could make sense. Gamma is a possibility for a shot too if he's town, they might have decided to risk it due to his track. but if that's the case Joda would have been better i think, especially from an orange scum perspective.

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Post Post #4856 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:27 am

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VOTE: Klazam
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Post Post #4857 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:28 am

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regarding the Mark read i'll go into it later, without revealing tells i can probably adequately explain why i'm pretty confident he's town.
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Post Post #4858 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:29 am

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okay
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Post Post #4859 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:38 am

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i guess i have a little time. the way Mark is staunchly arguing stances that don't benefit his survival in the least, and the sense he genuinely believes them for reasons i can see very well town Mark would have, just based on what i know about him as a player. the against the grain approach to lynching Shaziro under him being an SK when Mark knows that an SK flip wouldn't earn him any townpoints to begin with, and a town flip even worse. if he's scum it's a gambit and a badly-executed one.

but that's secondary to the main reason, which is that he does consider this optimal and that Shaziro is an SK.

speaking of that Mark: i don't believe orange and red by extension if we assume red wants to work with orange, would necessarily avoid shooting in the religion spreaders. i'm not even sure i buy that one of them is scum. it could be a red herring and the teams are balanced another way. of course at this point that fact doesn't mean i don't think it's possible one is, and i agree neither marshy nor pidgey are last red.
Klazam is my best guess for scum right now, speaking of sides i don't really know. red associations are difficult because of how early it was. though the same might be said for Varsoon dying night 1. and i just reminded myself Joey wants me to look there so i will when i'm home.

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Post Post #4860 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:39 am

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OTM im expecting you to stay on brass

@Gamma you shouldnt track Joda/OTM and rel spreaders (especially those rel spreaders since they can prove they didnt factionnal kill by themselves and if tracked to a kill aka who he had to convert it doesnt help)


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BRASS -> CHARA -> GAMMA


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SHAZIRO -> BAJUBER -> BRASS


Do you agree brass ?

I put you on odd night because you should be protected by OTM
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Post Post #4861 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:39 am

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does marshy's list work? i'm already converted by him, it wouldn't really prove anything.
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Post Post #4862 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:40 am

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Hm. religion spreader serves the purpose of being a false clear I feel. so if no religion spreaders are scum, I'd bet other scum have something similar, possibly a ninja. Which probably means either a VT or religion spreader claim is orange scum
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Post Post #4863 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:41 am

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Chara. What is your read on me and Marshy? Pidgey?
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Post Post #4864 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:41 am

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In post 4860, Joey_ wrote:OTM im expecting you to stay on brass

@Gamma you shouldnt track Joda/OTM and rel spreaders (especially those rel spreaders since they can prove they didnt factionnal kill by themselves and if tracked to a kill aka who he had to convert it doesnt help)


CONVERTING LIST v1.0

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SHAZIRO -> BAJUBER -> BRASS


Do you agree brass ?

I put you on odd night because you should be protected by OTM
oh forgot


CONVERTING LIST v1.1***

Marshy
Religion list :
BRASS -> CHARA -> GAMMA


Pidgey
Religion list :
CHARA -> BAJUBER -> BRASS
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Post Post #4865 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:42 am

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maybe switch buja and chara across lists?
PEdit: or that, but marshy is already proved to chara so w/e
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Post Post #4866 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:42 am

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This should could be improved by i need to take a shower cause im working soon so eh, will check that tomorow or tonight
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Post Post #4867 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:43 am

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In post 4865, Gamma Emerald wrote:maybe switch buja and chara across lists?
PEdit: or that, but marshy is already proved to chara so w/e
i want marshy to be on brass because hes protected tonight + a clear (and marshy's my fos)
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Post Post #4868 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:44 am

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assuming we lynch klazoum today (hes not orange) you have a higher chance to find orange-faction-killing if we leash marshy to someone protected
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Post Post #4869 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:45 am

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the problem is I remain unprotected, what prevents scum from just attacking me?
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Post Post #4870 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:47 am

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Confused at work
Whoever you want me on I will heal but like why would Marshy hit Chara with religion? Didn’t Chara already claim that and the whole catholic/Protestant joke?

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Post Post #4871 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:49 am

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In post 4863, Ranmaru wrote:Chara. What is your read on me and Marshy? Pidgey?
this is my leftovers pile with outside townlean on Joda and a stale one on pidgey.
i decided Gamma/Shaziro is unlikely and would sort itself out and i think Gamma is town. shaz isn't scum without Gamma scum first, anyway.
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Post Post #4872 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:50 am

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In post 4870, OnTheMark wrote:Confused at work
Whoever you want me on I will heal but like why would Marshy hit Chara with religion? Didn’t Chara already claim that and the whole catholic/Protestant joke?

Is my memory bad? will read the rest later
no you're right, i also think the list should be changed.
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Post Post #4873 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:51 am

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Red being BP would make sense, yes, but we have no way to verify that was the case.
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Post Post #4874 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:52 am

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What do you mean by leftovers pile? Go more into that.
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