Gunner Mafia [Endgame]

Centipede Syndrome · Post Post #2475 (ISO) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:34 am

In post 2453, Gorkington wrote:or we could lynch maria and if she flips scum [which she probably will] then centipede is probably dead tonight anyways?

Tchill13 · Post Post #2476 (ISO) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:35 am

It's a fact that if I'm town from your pov I'm the easiest lynch to get pushed through today. If a wagon on another townie gains traction there is no reason to come back to me. If a wagon on scum gets traction there's a ton of reason to come back to me.

Grey didn't vote Maria or pan. Grey voted me.

If one of those players flip scum then there's an association link there.

I'd bet a lot that one of Maria or pan is scum and I wouldn't be surprised if Grey was scum with either.

Centipede Syndrome · Post Post #2477 (ISO) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:37 am

In post 2467, Spiffeh wrote:I think Bins is town again

help me out with this one, Spiff? i'm scumreading Bins for tone + Maria association + wagon choices from her, but i scumread Bins in team mafia too so i'm not sure how much i can trust my read.
~Chara

Spiffeh · Post Post #2478 (ISO) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:39 am

scum!Bins will fake opinions and reasons for them in a more overt way than her reads here have been expressed

I was a little wary earlier on but her more recent posts seem a lot more carefree and also genuine in a way that I'd expect town!Bins to behave

Spiffeh · Post Post #2479 (ISO) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:39 am

In post 2476, Tchill13 wrote:It's a fact that if I'm town from your pov I'm the easiest lynch to get pushed through today. If a wagon on another townie gains traction there is no reason to come back to me. If a wagon on scum gets traction there's a ton of reason to come back to me.

Grey didn't vote Maria or pan. Grey voted me.

If one of those players flip scum then there's an association link there.

I'd bet a lot that one of Maria or pan is scum and I wouldn't be surprised if Grey was scum with either.

Ok yes I think these are fair points.

Come vote for Maria though I'm more confident in her being scum than Pan

Brigand Vvulf · Post Post #2480 (ISO) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:44 am

Yeah ok i think this is the lynch today

VOTE: mariar

Spiffeh · Post Post #2481 (ISO) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:48 am

In post 2256, GreyICE wrote:There's DEFINITELY nothing about daytalk in the rules.

1. Mafia may or may not have daychat.
Holy shit, did we just witness a genuine scumslip in the wild?

There's no way you actually believe this

Gorkington · Post Post #2482 (ISO) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:49 am

chara can you talk at my face about whether you were scumreading maria independently of elli and if so, why?

Gorkington · Post Post #2483 (ISO) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:51 am

also can you talk about the posts from maria/bins that you felt were linking them together?

Spiffeh · Post Post #2484 (ISO) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:52 am

In post 2282, Centipede Syndrome wrote:but for real 2276 is a pretty scummy "gotcha" post. calling it "that slip" is shorthand for "that post where Quick said the scumteam don't have daytalk" and pretending it's synonymous with "that scumslip" is the actual definition of a misrep, and not the fake definition people usually throw the word around as.
~Chara

Agreed

Either both heads of Panopticon got really horrible at mafia all of a sudden or they're scum

Spiffeh · Post Post #2485 (ISO) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:54 am

That was mean but I think they're scum so it wasn't THAT mean

Bins · Post Post #2486 (ISO) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:59 am

In post 2477, Centipede Syndrome wrote:
In post 2467, Spiffeh wrote:I think Bins is town again
help me out with this one, Spiff? i'm scumreading Bins for tone + Maria association + wagon choices from her, but i scumread Bins in team mafia too so i'm not sure how much i can trust my read.
~Chara

you think maria and i are scum together?

did you even read our interaction

she might be scum but im feeling like she's more similar to team mafia (she pinged my gut like crazy in that but i was wrong). her interaction with me was actually similar and made me town but the claim thing is still weird i guess

Bins · Post Post #2487 (ISO) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:00 am

In post 2476, Tchill13 wrote:It's a fact that if I'm town from your pov I'm the easiest lynch to get pushed through today. If a wagon on another townie gains traction there is no reason to come back to me. If a wagon on scum gets traction there's a ton of reason to come back to me.

Grey didn't vote Maria or pan. Grey voted me.

If one of those players flip scum then there's an association link there.

I'd bet a lot that one of Maria or pan is scum and I wouldn't be surprised if Grey was scum with either.

lol

but i bet even if maria or pan flips town you'd still go for grey right

Tchill13 · Post Post #2488 (ISO) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:01 am

Why would I do that?

Tchill13 · Post Post #2489 (ISO) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:01 am

The only independent scum read I have rn us ausuka.

Tchill13 · Post Post #2490 (ISO) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:02 am

VOTE: maria

Spiffeh · Post Post #2491 (ISO) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:04 am

In post 2365, Creature wrote:At this point, can you tell if Spiffeh is scum?

He thinks I'm town at this point but doesn't want to admit it because I've burned him so badly in the past

Quick · Post Post #2492 (ISO) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:04 am

In post 2480, Brigand Vvulf wrote:Yeah ok i think this is the lynch today

VOTE: mariar

Feels like a mislynch with shit like this happening.

Gorkington · Post Post #2493 (ISO) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:06 am

is brigand scum?

Quick · Post Post #2494 (ISO) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:07 am

In post 2493, Gorkington wrote:is brigand scum?

Not my point at all.

Brigand Vvulf · Post Post #2495 (ISO) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:08 am

ok whats ur point then

Gorkington · Post Post #2496 (ISO) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:08 am

In post 2428, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 2413, Hopkirk wrote:VOTE: Panoptican

In post 2414, Hopkirk wrote:Serious vote. We're lynching here today.
VOTE: panoptican

In post 2429, Quick wrote:VOTE: Pan

why are these better than brig's vote?
why did you vote alongside them if you think naked votes like that are troubling?

Quick · Post Post #2497 (ISO) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:09 am

In post 2496, Gorkington wrote:
In post 2428, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 2413, Hopkirk wrote:VOTE: Panoptican

In post 2414, Hopkirk wrote:Serious vote. We're lynching here today.
VOTE: panoptican

In post 2429, Quick wrote:VOTE: Pan
why are these better than brig's vote?
why did you vote alongside them if you think naked votes like that are troubling?

I talked about Pan being Scum early. Can only speak for myself.

Brigand Vvulf · Post Post #2498 (ISO) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:14 am

but somehow my vote instantly invalidates everything that has happened that could point to maria scum, got it

Gorkington · Post Post #2499 (ISO) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:20 am

could poke at what aspects of the reasons brig likes/wants to sheep and then try to pull them apart if you think that maria isnt the best lynch instead of just saying that we shouldnt do it? you get a chance to pull apart brig's mindset here if you do and a chance to derail momentum on maria if its genuinely a bad lynch for right now.

otherwise we're just inflating the postcount with more "this person is a bad lynch!" "this person is a good lynch!" conversation, which is honestly just pretty tedious and pointless.
im not going to unvote maria because you point at votes on maria that you think are bad.
maria's play stands regardless of what other people do with it.
you should be attacking why things with maria are NAI rather than just telling us that they are.