Yeah. I don't like the wagon on maria because reasons for being there are damn near non-existent. When you have a wagon that has this many people on it with as few reasons that have been given as this one, you know it's a shitty wagon and is probably on Town.In post 2499, Gorkington wrote:could poke at what aspects of the reasons brig likes/wants to sheep and then try to pull them apart if you think that maria isnt the best lynch instead of just saying that we shouldnt do it? you get a chance to pull apart brig's mindset here if you do and a chance to derail momentum on maria if its genuinely a bad lynch for right now.
otherwise we're just inflating the postcount with more "this person is a bad lynch!" "this person is a good lynch!" conversation, which is honestly just pretty tedious and pointless.
im not going to unvote maria because you point at votes on maria that you think are bad.
maria's play stands regardless of what other people do with it.
you should be attacking why things with maria are NAI rather than just telling us that they are.
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She was fairly useess this game, soft claimed a PR to get out of a lynch. I'm not sure why thats hard to see as scum?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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shhh, quick is just scum. Ignore him Gork.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I still feel pretty much everything Maria has done is NAI. We can find a better lynch than that.In post 2501, Gorkington wrote:except i gave reasons and you ignored them to just tell me that maria is nai. so. no?-
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As is pretty much everyone else on that wagon. Otherwise, the reasons for being there are extremely convenient.In post 2505, Brigand Vvulf wrote:would've been better to let quick come to that realization himself
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im telling you this one more time. so you have literally no excuse if you ignore it again and i will feel justified in just ignoring what you have to say. if you dont directly address the internal logic and just say that something is NAI. and thats all you say. and you dont explain why people are wrong. then you are not doing anything. i really dont care about what you feel. you arent an authority on lynching people that gets people to listen to you just because you feel something. if you want maria lynch to not happen you have to actually explain why other lynches are better or explain why the reasons that people think she is scummy are wrong and are just nai. every post you make that isnt doing that might as well be literally blank but it is accomplishing the same level of progress within the game.In post 2504, Quick wrote:
I still feel pretty much everything Maria has done is NAI. We can find a better lynch than that.In post 2501, Gorkington wrote:except i gave reasons and you ignored them to just tell me that maria is nai. so. no?trash- Mulch
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Maybe Ellibereth tried something, but don't remember seeing you doing much.In post 2474, Centipede Syndrome wrote:
what the heck, Creature? was i not here and doing "real game stuff" last night?In post 2452, Creature wrote:Ellibereth and Chara have up to 4 game days to start doing real game stuff otherwise lynch them.
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if you can present me with an argument for this is how town!maria defends herself from meta reads, I might actually consider it over just hearing you shouting "this is NAI" over and over againIn post 2507, Quick wrote:
As is pretty much everyone else on that wagon. Otherwise, the reasons for being there are extremely convenient.In post 2505, Brigand Vvulf wrote:would've been better to let quick come to that realization himself
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Repeat your reasons for SRing Maria and I will try and debunk it because I think they are made up just because you want to sheep Elli.In post 2508, Gorkington wrote:
im telling you this one more time. so you have literally no excuse if you ignore it again and i will feel justified in just ignoring what you have to say. if you dont directly address the internal logic and just say that something is NAI. and thats all you say. and you dont explain why people are wrong. then you are not doing anything. i really dont care about what you feel. you arent an authority on lynching people that gets people to listen to you just because you feel something. if you want maria lynch to not happen you have to actually explain why other lynches are better or explain why the reasons that people think she is scummy are wrong and are just nai. every post you make that isnt doing that might as well be literally blank but it is accomplishing the same level of progress within the game.In post 2504, Quick wrote:
I still feel pretty much everything Maria has done is NAI. We can find a better lynch than that.In post 2501, Gorkington wrote:except i gave reasons and you ignored them to just tell me that maria is nai. so. no?- Creature
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Hopkirk. Tchill (who never met a wagon he didn't want to be on).In post 2449, Spiffeh wrote:
Who are the scum driving the wagon?In post 2438, GreyICE wrote:The Panopticon wagon is so obviously scumdriven it hurts me.
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i feel like there are other points that spiff has made that youve also been completely ignoring?In post 2457, Gorkington wrote:In post 2439, Gorkington wrote:hello my name is maria and i have a strong power role that can apparently clear people. im going to tell people im using it. instead of just using it.
the entire fiasco of making a big deal of her getting a result is super unnecessary as town and paints a target on herself that i doubt she would actually want to have as town with a role like that when shes insinuated that she needs to make it until d2.
like, i dont get why youre very clearly intentionally avoiding actually directly debunking aspects of the case instead of just spamming the game telling people to stop voting her.
are you just annoyed that it feels like people are sheeping elli and this is an ego thing? or what?trash- GreyICE
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I am so, so, so far ahead of you.In post 2506, Spiffeh wrote:You guys need to realize that interacting with Quick is useless- Quick
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That's one fucking reason and it's not a good one considering Maria could actually be a PR here. The PR claim should be read as NAI.In post 2517, Gorkington wrote:
i feel like there are other points that spiff has made that youve also been completely ignoring?In post 2457, Gorkington wrote:In post 2439, Gorkington wrote:hello my name is maria and i have a strong power role that can apparently clear people. im going to tell people im using it. instead of just using it.
the entire fiasco of making a big deal of her getting a result is super unnecessary as town and paints a target on herself that i doubt she would actually want to have as town with a role like that when shes insinuated that she needs to make it until d2.
like, i dont get why youre very clearly intentionally avoiding actually directly debunking aspects of the case instead of just spamming the game telling people to stop voting her.
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