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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:53 pm

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@the worst

I doubt that
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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:58 pm

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In post 267, Mathdino wrote:anyway i didn't vote you because i didn't feel like pressure would make you more readable

and also i felt bad
I agree SS's entrance was a little bit weird but I think this is weirder

I used this same excuse when I was scum. I think it's a little bit true but I think a town player would try anyway

And I think town!dino plays to win 100%, so the other reason is a bit fishy to me too

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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:58 pm

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In post 258, ruru wrote:Oxy seems more diplomatic in this game
In post 272, Scioness Sajj wrote: oxy seems a lot less opinionated and that's worrying.
Is this AI though?
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:04 pm

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@ruru

Dino could be scum, but I don't think that's the read that exposes him. Dinosaurs have hearts, too. =(
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:06 pm

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In post 277, ofrhz wrote:
In post 258, ruru wrote:Oxy seems more diplomatic in this game
In post 272, Scioness Sajj wrote: oxy seems a lot less opinionated and that's worrying.
Is this AI though?
it might be. he has been agreeing with people and cracked a bad joke. don't remember him posting anything interesting just yet.
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:09 pm

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In post 276, ruru wrote:I agree SS's entrance was a little bit weird but I think this is weirder

I used this same excuse when I was scum. I think it's a little bit true but I think a town player would try anyway

And I think town!dino plays to win 100%, so the other reason is a bit fishy to me too
so here's the dealio

i've seen scioness flip out under pressure as both alignments, in two different games (i spectated the good scumgame that i kept talking about)

i tunneled her last game because i thought her behaviour was similar and fakable. i was wrong (it turns out that being good at scum legit just means playing the same way as either alignment)

i am bad at reading AtE.

so it does not constitute "playing to win" to call for an early wagon on someone who i know will likely flip out and produce unreadable content. it's a lot easier to step back and let her do her thing.

plus the vast majority of wagons don't actually lead to lynches. while she was (until she made her last wallpost) my top scumspect, it doesn't necessarily benefit me to speedlynch my top scumread today, ESPECIALLY when i've been shown to have little ability to readh er
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:11 pm

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Let me try to do one of these:

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Ruru, pin, Scioness
The worst, Mathdino

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Draynth, Sunshine, Oxy, skitter

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Mohab500, UglyDuck, AP
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:13 pm

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How is it bad to lynch an unreadable strong scum player d1
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:14 pm

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are they useful as town?
have you found probable scum?
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:16 pm

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He’s a strong town player. and if what he says is true, he’ll bus his own scum partners, thereby doing some of the work for us.

So no, I don’t want to lynch him d1. Plus I think everything he said in 280 is true.
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:17 pm

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In post 284, ofrhz wrote:He’s a strong town player. and if what he says is true, he’ll bus his own scum partners, thereby doing some of the work for us.

So no, I don’t want to lynch him d1. Plus I think everything he said in 280 is true.
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:17 pm

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In post 282, ruru wrote:How is it bad to lynch an unreadable strong scum player d1
oh it's perfectly fine, i could D1 lynch scioness if i end up with too many townreads

it's just not useful to do it on like page 2

i suspect there are things about her that ARE readable though now that i have 2 data points instead of 1

so we'll see where things go down the line

do you feel like helping me wagon anyone not in the townbloc

cuz like full disclosure

your vote on me is really just gonna get me to argue with you more today -- while i accept being your top scumread (for what's not a good tell and especially not a good tell for my meta), it's not a useful place for your vote right now

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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:18 pm

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I'm town reading strongly

Pretty decent shot scum!dino pushes that wagon on both town!Sajj and scum!Sajj

I've heard that 1v1'ing Sajj is a quick road to an unproductive town.
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:18 pm

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In post 282, ruru wrote:How is it bad to lynch an unreadable strong scum player d1
In post 284, ofrhz wrote:He’s a strong town player. and if what he says is true, he’ll bus his own scum partners, thereby doing some of the work for us.

So no, I don’t want to lynch him d1. Plus I think everything he said in 280 is true.
i'm pretty sure ruru is talking about scioness being an unreadable strong scum player

i'm actually readable but i produce so much content that people get a headache trying to read/meta me
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:19 pm

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Lmao Oxy
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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:20 pm

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you also have an impregnable defence ready to go
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:20 pm

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280 is good but it mentions that one game so i hate it

okay yeah, I'm will be back tomorrow

@the worst would like you to answer my questions.
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:21 pm

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@Math, Yeah oops. Do you have any scum games you can point me to?
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:23 pm

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In post 287, Oxy wrote:Pretty decent shot scum!dino pushes that wagon on both town!Sajj and scum!Sajj
I can't imagine what SS looks like when she's about to get bussed but I actually feel like I would want to avoid that risk as scum due to her tendency to produce a lot of text
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:25 pm

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In post 1, brassherald wrote:Factional communication: During the day or night phase you may talk with your partners here [QuickTopic link].
scum have daytalk, be careful with assumptions like that
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:28 pm

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In post 292, ofrhz wrote:@Math, Yeah oops. Do you have any scum games you can point me to?
Three In One Part 2
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i don't roll scum very often

feel free to go through my topic history for more
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:46 pm

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PFP

ofrhz is the only player so far not to townread me.

I like this.

I don’t like that they’re not doing anything about that.

Also, you guys shitpost a lot more than I’m used to. Though I’m used to 72hr day phases, so I guess there’s more time to piss about here...

Anyway, shameless kinda sorta OMGUS ‘cause you should follow the rest of the herd, damnit.

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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:49 pm

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do you scumread ofrhz?
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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:50 pm

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[quote="In post 296, Sunshine13"][/quote]

Hmm

I don't townread you either, and I think ofrhz is town

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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:04 pm

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PFP

Hm indeed.

What makes you read ofrhz as town?

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Math recently stated Sajj was his top scumpick. What are your thoughts on one of your townreads thinking another of your townreads is worthy of the lynch?
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