Open 721: Pick Your Poison (Game Over)

[the worst]

while we're getting stuff of our chests
townreading Mohab500 without more content is weird as shit

I'm not adverse to it but there are certain boxes he needs to tick first imo

[Oxy]

gonna need help reading ofrhz (i have also been spelling his name wrong the whole time fucking lol) from 1859ers

He is showing a very different mindset to D1 of 1859.

However, D2 Ofrhz was a clear shift in mindset, and that shift was in the direction of what we're seeing here.

More data needed.

[Mathdino]

Yeah that was a gross read on me tbh.

yoooo

it was how i communicated it, not the logic itself

it was right! i also correctly lockscumread one of the scum

i was legitimately trying to scumhunt there

i just act different when i'm scum i guess

guys pls help with ofrhz though

Edit: that's why i didn't/don't really wanna talk about my mohab read lol

Edit2: got it thanks

[Oxy]

Is this talking about me or talking about math?

I don't think that your response to his entrance is NAI for you.

Thus, I don't think that his understanding the wifom around that entrance necessitates him being scum.

[skitter30]

Okay I give up on sleeping

@skitter

I feel like AP's roleplay would be increasingly awkward/hard to pull off as scum as the game progresses making him a poor D1 lynch.

What do you think?

Do you still think Oxy is town?

Honestly know nothing about AP so I'm not really seeing roleplay? Maybe I'm reading him badly cuz of that?

I kinda think it's easier for scum to hide behind roleplay tbh, cuz they can brush away weirdness as roleplaying.

I don't think that roleplaying is inherently hard for scum to do, or that stopping the rp is AI. Like I don't think that keeping the roleplay up or failing to do so is inherently AI. Unless you're trying to say something else with the bolded.

Only thing AI I got from Oxy is that he picked up on town!you around the same time that I did, so I don't really have a strong read on him. ~nulltown

[pinturicchio]

I apologize for the delay in getting the vote count up, ended up watching Who Framed Roger Rabbit and I forgot how long it was.

@mod, can we assume that the scumteam framed Roger Rabbit??

[the worst]

i um
i actually uh
find them pretty townish
i just don't really wanna go into that right now
i'm kind of embarrassed to townread garbageposting tbh

pedit: lmfao pingu you're great

[skitter30]

it was how i communicated it, not the logic itself

Well, sorta, more that you were calling me town for how I cased people *while ignoring that the major case I'd made in the game thus far had been on you*.

Ofrhz kinda bled town last time, and he hasn't yet here, but that isn't really a reason to scurmead someone. A few of his posts while I read through town-pinged me; I'd have to go back and find them though. I don't particularly think he's done anything scummy at this point.

So ~nulltown too.

Is this talking about me or talking about math?

I don't think that your response to his entrance is NAI for you.

Thus, I don't think that his understanding the wifom around that entrance necessitates him being scum.

That's not particularly where the scumvibes on math were coming from, so much as it occurred to me that that's how scum!math might try to approach my slot. But since I can kinda see town!math doing it too I don't' particularly think it's AI.

What I'm kinda wondering is if I'm the person town!math decides to prioritize sorting here though.

[the worst]

I want to hear something interesting from:-
Draynth
UglyDuck
AP
Scioness Sajj



loosely in that order [:

[Mathdino]

- i trust NSG and skitter30 the most to read this guy out of the playerlist, will double check my read by their ISO
- wow NSG is scumreading him but is either not explaining or has shit reasons, got it
- skitter30 doesn't really look like she's scumreading him, good

...i'm on record for seeing you as a good player lol

also i think that's a perfectly valid reason to scumread someone. it's how i've caught scum-NSG 100% of the time lol

keeping vote on draynth because UTTERLY BAMBOOZLED but definitely willing to wagon ofrhz

[Oxy]

What I'm kinda wondering is if I'm the person town!math decides to prioritize sorting here though.

He was. He said he was a page or so back.

The reason he gave for prioritizing you was really pro town

Actually, I remember thinking it was pro town moments after I voted The Worst.

I didn't know about all this meta stuff at that point,

so I felt low key bad because I could have voted you just as easily and helped him sort you.

[ofrhz]

ok I'll do this point by point. sorry about long post

@Sunshine, This was your original question:

What are your thoughts regarding ruru voting me based on townreading you, then?

In my original answer, I packaged my thoughts concisely for you. I actually thought I was doing you a favor given how people don't like wallposts on this site. I didn't realize you wanted me to literally regurgitate my thoughts.

Your responses make sense if you’re buddying her, also if you give newer players some slack or if you’re just trying to look like you’re active without revealing too much. The first one is scum-leaning, the second NAI, the third mostly just anti-town. I note you answered the questions I asked to the letter,

not really revealing that much more than when you evaded the initial question

, just with more words and a bit more reference to your experiences with ruru. Not a good sign.

I actually am a newer player, so maybe I can empathize a lot with newer players.
Just went over the fact that I didn't intentionally evade your original question. After I realized what you wanted, I did give you all of my thoughts about ruru's vote on me. (How many thoughts do you expect me to have on 298?) You can choose to believe that or not.

I am disturbed by the falsehood I pointed out previously.

OK about this "falsehood," would you not say this is singling me out:

ofrhz is the only player so far not to townread me.

You clearly made a few assumptions (that no one else was not-townreading you) when posting this. But at the time, I didn't realize this. That is why I said "Additionally, neither ruru nor I were townreading you, yet you chose to single me out for doing so.

I think this was genuine mistake on your part though

." How is this a falsehood?

Should I let someone who might be scum slide just because they’re new?

Not at all. I think you should consider a player's experience when trying to read them. You didn't do this, which is why I think your read on ruru is wrong.

This is also why I don’t like

ofrhz saying I’m ignoring other people for not townreading me

, as mentioned previously: when I voted, nobody else had said as much, and when ruru voted me, I put some pressure on her. You’ve joined that party, but I only have one vote *shrug*

?????? I never said this.

[pinturicchio]

Wow you're all here, it's 4 in the morning here so I expected total silence.

Guys, I got the first freshly baked tinfoil hat theory just for you: scum!Dino and scum!the worst. Enemies of the heir ... beware.

Sunshine is town by the way

@skitter reads on me please?

[Oxy]

TBH,

Mathdino is obv!town

And it's because he's holding back.

Strongest town read outside of Ruru

[pinturicchio]

Really!?!? Holding up is exactly why I think he could be scum haha

I mean Dino always becomes obv!town on page 2, and here he wasn't

[pinturicchio]

EBWOP holding back

[UglyDuck]

I want to hear something interesting from:-
Draynth
UglyDuck
AP
Scioness Sajj



loosely in that order [:

yeah thats mb typing it up now. will be more active from here on forth. sorry.

[the worst]

Really!?!? Holding up is exactly why I think he could be scum haha

I mean Dino always becomes obv!town on page 2, and here he wasn't

EBWOP holding back

saaaame

Math can be a d2 sort. What he does is amazing and I get he needs to be in the swing of things to do it.

[the worst]

TBH,

Mathdino is obv!town

And it's because he's holding back.

Strongest town read outside of Ruru

Hm?

[UglyDuck]

OK I lied half way through write up, but I am exhausted. Will post and start contributing tomorrow.

[the worst]

rock and roll I'm holdin u to that

[Mohab500]

Too lazy to read all of this and write my answers, have exams and also writing from my tablet, dont expect much tiday

[brassherald]

Vote Count 1.6

Draynth (2)

Mathdino, the worst

Mohab500 (2)

ofrhz, oxy

ofrhz (1)

Sunshine13

AP (2)

pinturicchio, skitter30

Mathdino (1)

Draynth

Oxy (1)

AP

Sunshine13 (1)

ruru

the worst (1)

Scioness Sajj

Not Voting:

UglyDuck, Mohab500

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.
Deadline: (expired on 2018-04-30 16:45:00)

Sunshine13 is V/LA until Tuesday April 24, 2018

Please let me know if there is anything I can do to make votecounts easier to read and use. I reorganized the wagons to be alphabetical as well, so, don't try to analyze the list order, it is by number of votes and then by the alphabet. I have seen too many people try to analyze meanings in Vote Counts, but I believe that you can do this.

Oh, and it turns out Roger Rabbit wasn't framed at all, he did it. That's how the movie ends, and don't argue with the mod even if he lies to you.

[Mohab500]

I had an exam today and one tomorrow, which means tomorrow after I am done I can write a bit. I will be moderatly busy until 12 may to 17 may, where I won't be able to post at all in that time period. Not aure if this is necessary or if its how we do it, but

@mod, I will be v la from 12 may to 17 may

If you can wait until tomorrow night, I can maybe explain my viewpoints. Otherwise I don't mind being lynched.

[brassherald]

I'm going to ask Mohab to remind me of the VLA when the time is closer.