Gunner Mafia [Endgame]

[Nero Cain]

I kinda hope Pan flips town so I can laugh at you guys for letting Grey slip by. I guess if Pan flips scum then you guys get to do the opposite.

[Shad]

I wish you were still here so I could ask why you are putting words in my mouth but I'll just lynch Shad instead.

Well

Sorry your top scum read was a villager

Hi I'm Shad AMA

[Nero Cain]

I wish you were still here so I could ask why you are putting words in my mouth but I'll just lynch Shad instead.

Sorry your top scum read was a villager

How do you know Grey's allignment?

[Nero Cain]

like, idk. The way I see this game rn is that Grey is scum, Cheekys vote on Spiff was dumb and I really hated Quicks misrep/putting words into my mouth. They can all die as far as I'm concerned.

Still don't really like Bins but I guess the prevailing theory is that scum sat on her so she must be town. I don'y really think its impossible that she sits on a buddy (scum often do do that)

[Thor665]

Scum often do that to town also.

[Nero Cain]

true, its null though. What do you think of Bins content?

[Creature]

Still think VC suggests Panopticon is town.

[Bins]

I kinda hope Pan flips town so I can laugh at you guys for letting Grey slip by. I guess if Pan flips scum then you guys get to do the opposite.

it's funny cause both are town


probably more likely Pan scum then Grey, i'd say

[Creature]

Maybe it's a better option to just lynch Srceenplay so we don't come next day unmotivated.

[CheekyTeeky]

Nero if I'm right I'm going to death tunnel you every game we're in Nero for constantly being a hypocrite and calling me dumb. You don't know me at all so stfu.

Anyway I'm not going to have much time over next couple of days so I'm sheeping CS to make my vote useful and I'll try Spiffeh again tomorrow if we're both still here.

CS who are you voting?

[Shad]

I wish you were still here so I could ask why you are putting words in my mouth but I'll just lynch Shad instead.

Sorry your top scum read was a villager

How do you know Grey's allignment?

I don't think I've even encountered this person yet.

[Shad]

Creature why did you not rub my nipples

[Spiffeh]

Literally false, as I've always stuck to Maria as long as I was alive and posting and aware of the guilty, but, furthermore, do you really think scum (especially scum in my position) is more likely to prop obvious counterwagons when there's an in-thread 1v1 guilty on a scum slot? Are you fucking daft?

There was NO guilty. This has been explained several times. Centipede themselves said it wasn't a guilty, just that they were very confident in the read. Your hydra partner OBVIOUSLY acted under the assumption that there wasn't a guilty on Maria so I don't get why that's so hard for you to figure out. It makes no sense that you'll insult everyone voting for you for being bad at mafia when you clearly haven't even read the game, which means your anger look less genuine and more like you're throwing out AtE to save yourself.

So yes, I do believe that your slot has a lot to gain from pushing counter wagons to scum!Maria. The fact that your hydra partner does hop on a counter wagon to flipped scum for shitty reasons makes me think that is actually the case.

[Spiffeh]

Here, Quick makes a joke response to Nero's joke question:

Whats all happening in your scum PT, Quick?

There's no day talk.... LOL.

The "LOL" makes it pretty obvious that it's a joke. After votes from GreyICE and Nero Cain, your slot votes for Quick as well, later implying that it was for this slip:

VOTE: Quick

Anybody that just hopped in that slip is viable.

>admits that it's a scumslip
>still doesn't want to lynch scum
>

This results in this votecount, where Maria and Quick are within one vote of each other.

In the second quote from above where it becomes apparent that the reason for the Quick vote was because of a slip, he also shades Tchill, another very viable Maria counter wagon at the time. This avoidance of the Maria wagon is all while Pan apparently had what's basically a scum read on Maria:

Youre scum.

Maria or ellis hydra are scum

. Gork is back to neutral, quick is still an annoyance, grey is still town, bins is still town, busboy is probably town but needs to post soon.

Pan literally votes for someone who is "an annoyance" over someone that is 50/50 scum based on the "slip" that obviously wasn't a slip from above. After this post, there is no read or talk about Maria from this slot ever again. They took the easiest excuse they could find to not vote for Maria, and vote/shade all her potential counter wagons.

[Shad]

It makes no sense that you'll insult everyone voting for you for being bad at mafia when you clearly haven't even read the game, which means your anger look less genuine and more like you're throwing out AtE to save yourself.

To be fair I feel like half of the roster has had an angry meltdown just in the three pages I have existed for and I'm kind of like waiting for most of them to start playing Mafia lol

[Spiffeh]

This isn't to mention Gork's case on Pan from earlier in the day that basically boils down to:

tn is just talking at people in this game.
hes not trying to sort people.
theres nothing genuine about anything hes doing.

theres nothing genuine about doubtcasting someone because theyre scumreading something your hydra partner did because you didnt post it.
theres nothing genuine about anything hes pushed on tchill.
and theres especially nothing genuine about him trying to walk back his read there as not being strong when hes indicated anything but the contrary.

But everyone in this game doesn't even read it so I'm sure no one knows about that!

[Spiffeh]

To be fair I feel like half of the roster has had an angry meltdown just in the three pages I have existed for and I'm kind of like waiting for most of them to start playing Mafia lol

The difference is that the Varsoon head of Pan (who I am talking to) should actually know better.

[Spiffeh]

I felt like his push on you was too opportunistic given the timing of everything. It's annoying me that I keep flip flopping on him so I would appreciate some help clearing his slot si vous plait.

What about the timing was opportunistic? Maria had just flipped leaving Tchill as the leading wagon, and since Panopticon was my second lynch choice after Maria and looked even worse with her flip, I urged people to vote there instead.

If you really want to sort me why don't you ask me questions or do something to make that happen? I think I've provided enough content to make you have an opinion one way or the other so idk how a basically naked vote on me is going to accomplish what you're claiming you want done.

CheekyTeeky I would like a response to this.

You don't get to be completely useless by parking and me without explaining why/trying to engage with me about your suspicions that you apparently have.

[Shad]

Spiffeh feels like a villager

[Shad]

Pocketed yet? lmk

[Panopticon]

Motherfucker, how dense are you--I was not made aware that it wasn't an actual guilty until just recently.
Also, stop trying to hold me responsible for some shit my other head did.
Dat wasn't me, so judging MY alignment based on HIS play is backwards as fuck

Also, I haven't insulted EVERYONE on my wagon, just the particularly stupid people pushing me for the worst reasons.

I don't see how you being a dick like this is supposed to help me 'do town things', as fucking nebulous of a hurdle as that is that you've set

-obserVed

[Panopticon]

Like holy shit stop pressuring me to justify fucking plays I didn't make
This is what white people must feel like for being held accountable for all the horrible shit they've done hundreds of years ago.

-obserVed

[Nero Cain]

Like anyone that bought a day guilty is kinda dumb. They happen but so rare.

[Panopticon]

This is a game with confirmed resurrection mechanics, claim-punishment mechanics, and dayvigilante
You think it's dumb of me to believe someone's a daycop?

-obserVed

[Shad]

I mean I am not an MSer but anticlaim kp and day vigs are completely standard in my world and the rez mech is stated in the OP?