Open 721: Pick Your Poison (Game Over)

[the worst]

Pretty sure scum!you never starts a thing with dino here.

Ah-ha! So you do trust in Dino being town himself here. Otherwise, why wouldn't scum.ruru try to distance herself from her partner?

Yo! I saw this too! Cog dis much, skitter?

I think AP is alcohol'd perpetually
He speaks in very abstract phrases

[Sunshine13]

UNVOTE: ofrhz

I’m getting off this wagon. ofrhz is probtown.

Consider me on the Ugly Duck wagon, don’t wanna vote yet ‘cause I don’t know how many votes there are and I’m too tired and old and lazy to check on my phone.

UG: Those reads bro. Your main scumspect is scum ‘cause of frickin’

laser

theory, man.

Also not feeling ruru as town.

bro... wtf is a laser theory?

also as a side note. The amount of hate I am picking up based on such a limited skum list should probably raise some eyebrows.

You missed the strike-thru. You’re scum-reading someone on game theory about 20 pages after the fact.

Double-you-tee-eff.

[Mathdino]

so guys

while i would love to nail skitterscum off of cogdiss (i.e. "she slipped that she knows dino is town")

i don't believe that's actually a scumtell, and the majority of the time i've seen people try to nail players off this, they flip town

sometimes town doesn't think about what they're saying or what their narrative is

skitter's meta-analysis of me is actually a little bit townish

i think skitter also gets sorted by the NK if not cop-checked fwiw

[ruru]

Acceptable D1 lynches: the worst/ruru

Acceptable N1 Vig shots: UglyDick/Pintu/skitter (in that order.. I think)

Why isn't UD in your acceptable D1 lynches?

[Oxy]

Yeah but since he's already started the game by prioritizing me, scum!math has to say that's what town!him would do, so the fact that he says that's what he would do doesn't mean much.

ie: idk if I believe him saying that town!math prioritizes sorting me in the playerlist.

I don't know if he does or not, but his reason for prioritizing you was pro town. Thus, I think that unless you can argue that someone else would have been a more pro-town player for Mathdino to sort, you have to call his opening either NAI or town-indicative. I would lean towards NAI.

p.edit Yeah, you're probably right about the cog dis thing, Mathdino

[AP]

Acceptable D1 lynches: the worst/ruru

Acceptable N1 Vig shots: UglyDick/Pintu/skitter (in that order.. I think)

Are you really willing to shoot a little innocent young padawan?

Not if UD flips red

[ruru]

I think skitter is a really questionable vig shot btw

[Oxy]

"you're not obvtown yet even though you're usually obvtown as town"
is a valid reason for voting someone IMO

it's actually currently the case being used against me, haha

would lynch: Draynth, UglyDuck, ofrhz

I could see this. He's kind of been buddy af to Ruru

And he was asking biting questions of everyone during D1 1859

[Oxy]

^about Ofrhz, sorry for ambiguity

[AP]

so guys

while i would love to nail skitterscum off of cogdiss (i.e. "she slipped that she knows dino is town")

i don't believe that's actually a scumtell, and the majority of the time i've seen people try to nail players off this, they flip town

sometimes town doesn't think about what they're saying or what their narrative is

skitter's meta-analysis of me is actually a little bit townish

i think skitter also gets sorted by the NK if not cop-checked fwiw

Did you read my report? Skitter is my 5th suspect, so let's nail one of the top 2.

[ofrhz]

@tw, could I get an updated reads/lynchpool list from you?

[Oxy]

In post 401, Draynth wrote:
TheWorst - Seems to be trying super hard to be friendly, could be a playstyle thing but I've never played with TW before so I have no idea. Either way I agree with Math's reasoning for scumreading this slot


I don't get why you're voting here if you think it could be a playstyle thing.

Don't get why you're sheeping math either

He town reads mathdino.
He agrees with the reasoning.
What is not to get?

[AP]

Acceptable D1 lynches: the worst/ruru

Acceptable N1 Vig shots: UglyDick/Pintu/skitter (in that order.. I think)

Why isn't UD in your acceptable D1 lynches?

Because I'm not SURE he's scum, so I would rather lynch my confident SRs and let the Vig take care of the shaky ones. (and of course, being ugly it's not that hard to see where I'm coming from)

[AP]

I think skitter is a really questionable vig shot btw

Agai, skitter is 5th in line, so worry about the first 4 first.

[ofrhz]

I'm feeling townvibes from AP that I can't explain

@AP - can you explain the TW read for dumb me

[ruru]

Acceptable D1 lynches: the worst/ruru

Acceptable N1 Vig shots: UglyDick/Pintu/skitter (in that order.. I think)

Why isn't UD in your acceptable D1 lynches?

Because I'm not SURE he's scum, so I would rather lynch my confident SRs and let the Vig take care of the shaky ones. (and of course, being ugly it's not that hard to see where I'm coming from)

Are you willing to be lynched if I flip green?

[AP]

@Dino: Could you skim read the game from the beginning with my scum team/suspects in mind and tell me if you see what I see?

P-edit:

@ofrhz: Check the opening 2-3 pages.. better yet, ISO TW vs ruru. I think you will see it clearer that way.

[Mathdino]

AP, i'm not going to confbias myself, sorry

i have no doubt that whatever scumteam you have in mind is consistent (that is there's probably nothing ruling it out)

but that doesn't mean i want to tunnel that specific team

[Oxy]

You tried pulling something like this in MKUltra when I scumread you there too.

Like you're agreeing with me and saying you get where I'm coming but at the same time downplaying what I'm saying. Also you're trying to say that town!math would do the exact same thing here.

It's weird to tell me that you agree with me but that you don't think the point I'm making is worth responding to.

This gave me flashbacks. This feels a lot like 1859. Skitter comes into a game with a suspect, and that suspicion just kind of taints that person for them for the entire game.

[AP]

Are you willing to be lynched if I flip green?

Yes. I'd be the Vig shot instead of UD even to save the town a mislynch if you flip green. Would you please vote yourself in return?

[Oxy]

Like you're townreading him for it and pushing a pl on someone you're townreading just cuz they're garbage-posting is stupid.

I'm pretty sure mathdino was town reading mohab500 by this point, and not actively pushing a policy lynch??

[AP]

AP, i'm not going to confbias myself, sorry

What if I asked nicely? What if I said "please"??

[ruru]

VOTE: ruru

[Mathdino]

while i disagree with the cogdiss argument

i really am starting to feel like skitter is scum here :/

could use a cop guilty on her.

Edit: guys stop talking about whether or not you're willing to be lynched/shot

Edit2: @AP: maybe if you did a dance or something

Edit3: ruru get your vote the fuck off yourself

[AP]

]v]ruru[/v]