Open 721: Pick Your Poison (Game Over)

[AP]

Nup. I thought I might know her from Discord mafia a while ago but I dropped that theory now

So you agree there's a chance she was actually referring to UD by "only one duck" and that your interference helped her out? How do you feel about a ruru/UD scum partnership?

[Oxy]

Well, this overwhelmed newb!scum is pulling it off better than you did, for sure.

You could be right, but I think we have better choices right now. I'm feeling Ofrhz atm. I'm a constant 130 pages behind current posting.

[the worst]

Nup. I thought I might know her from Discord mafia a while ago but I dropped that theory now

So you agree there's a chance she was actually referring to UD by "only one duck" and that your interference helped her out? How do you feel about a ruru/UD scum partnership?

Read page 1 and tell me if you still want me to answer this.

[ruru]

I really want to know why you, in the past, thought ruru+TW+UD was more likely than ruru+TW+not UD

[Oxy]

You told me that you agree with my suspicions wrt the mohab wagon and than preceeded to ask me why I'm questioning it. It's disingenuous. Either I have a point and I should be pursuing it, or I don't have a point and I shouldn't be questioning it and you don't have to bother responding to me.

You completely misread him.

He's not dismissing it. This is the conversation so far:

Skitter30: Mathdino, I think Mohab is lynch bait! What do you think about that?
Skitter30: Mathdino, I think Mohab is lynch bait! What do you think about that?
Mathdino: (Having just said he found Mohab's posts townie) I agree, that's why we're not pushing on Mohab. What do you want me to address (kind of snippy, probably could have avoided this but nbd)?
Skitter30: You're saying you agree and dismissing it!
Mathdino:I agree which is why we are taking the inaction towards that slot that we are. I'm not dismissing you. There isn't a fight about this happening right now.

[Sunshine13]

UNVOTE: ofrhz

I’m getting off this wagon. ofrhz is probtown.

Consider me on the Ugly Duck wagon, don’t wanna vote yet ‘cause I don’t know how many votes there are and I’m too tired and old and lazy to check on my phone.

UG: Those reads bro. Your main scumspect is scum ‘cause of frickin’

laser

theory, man.

Also not feeling ruru as town.

bro... wtf is a laser theory?

also as a side note. The amount of hate I am picking up based on such a limited skum list should probably raise some eyebrows.

You missed the strike-thru. You’re scum-reading someone on game theory about 20 pages after the fact.

Double-you-tee-eff.

So when we skum read people day 4 for things they did day 2 that isn’t a acceptable? It only matters when someone said something in relativity to the choronological aspect of it. Yeah it could be 20,40, fuck ... 100 pages later. I found them skummy for it then and Nothing since then has flipped my mentality.

And i still have no idea what laser means then

It means you obviously haven’t watched AP

Re-written first sentence ‘cause I calmed down a little. I was not very pleasant. Probably should’ve edited more but then it would lose some of the impact and not actually express how I feel.

I’m super-weirded out by the fact you think a theory post 20 pages back, despite having oodles more content to sr the man for. You could sr him ‘cause I said he was a liar - yes I know ofrhz, you weren’t I accept that now - or ‘cause he thinks you’re other scumpick is town, but no, you choose to do it because of his opinion on what a role should do, which is about as ai as whether or not he smells like fucking fish.

Christ I am literally shaking with rage at how fucking stupid that is.

Just.. fucking wow.

Wow.

I’m going to bed.

The really fucking annoying thing is upon further consideration I can’t fathom how scum!you would be that stupid, so I can’t bring myself to actually vote for you anymore.

I’m also sorry for how I’ve communicated this, but seriously man. Wow.

wow

.

[AP]

Read page 1 and tell me if you still want me to answer this.

I'm not sure what you're saying, but I'll guess you're still SRing Math+Sajj so a ruru+UD partnership isn't likely for you. Am I close?

Anyway, I really need to go now. It's past my Cinderella spell-breaking time already. ttys

P-edit: I answered the first part, which should also give you a solid idea of how my brain works. You should be able to follow up that line of thinking on your own. Further questions along the same line are to be considered posturing by me.

[ruru]

VOTE: AP

[skitter30]

Another short break from my hw.

I don't think I'm going to go post-by-post of the last around 8 pages; if there's something in particular there that people want me to answer
that I missed lmk. Here's a stream-of-conscious-y summary of my thoughts:

-> scioness might be town

-> I realized that one of the reasons I'm scumreading math is not necessarily valid in this specific scenario, so my scumread on him has weakened, but still exists. (I'm not elaborating on this bit right now though)

-> If ruru is town, AP is very, very, very likely town as well. Or, more accurately, I don't think scum!AP posts 594 knowing that town!ruru flips green.

-> if Math is town oxy might be buddying him.

-> I don't get UD's vote on ofrhz. It's kinda *so* bad that it might come from town tbh?

-> I have a fairly strong townread on ofrhz at this point

-> @math, 527 - assuming the premise of scum in the ducks, why'd you vote ofrhz there, and not, say, tw or ud?

-> @math, 567 - Cuz I think you're more likely than not scum, but don't think that trying to lynch you is a good idea right now cuz : a) my scumread on you has weakened, b) if we 1v1 it'll fuck over the gamestate irregardless of your alignment and I don't really want to do that c) I don't have time to 1v1 you today/tomorrow irl anyways d) you might get nk'd and then I wouldn't have to worry about you

I just don't want people to forget that I'm scumreading you even if I don't want to push it right now.

-> @math, 569, and a few other posts too - You're townread by a bunch of people and a lot of people are sheeping you and I don't particulalry trust that your pushes are town-motivated right now. And the cog-dis thing is a phrasing thing. And yeah, I agree with math that I probably get sorted in this gamestate via nk or cop-check, if, like, one exists.

-> @oxy, 593 - I didn't exactly start 1859 pre-disposed to scumread you; you just felt very scummy like immediatley once the game started. I am acknowledging the possibility that I might be getting tunneled on math though; trying very hard not to let tunnel mode take over. 595 - that's my point.

UNVOTE:

This was through ~page 25

[the worst]

Read page 1 and tell me if you still want me to answer this.

I'm not sure what you're saying, but I'll guess you're still SRing Math+Sajj so a ruru+UD partnership isn't likely for you. Am I close?

Anyway, I really need to go now. It's past my Cinderella spell-breaking time already. ttys

P-edit: I answered the first part, which should also give you a solid idea of how my brain works. You should be able to follow up that line of thinking on your own. Further questions along the same line are to be considered posturing by me.

me: lights up p1
them: sees a duck

Seriously not sure how you aren't seeing how much sense this makes

[ofrhz]

whew tensions are running high

~ some lighthearted fluff to break the tension ~

<SNIP>
which is about as ai as

whether or not he smells like fucking fish

.

fwiw, I don't think I smell like fish

[Sunshine13]

Copulating fish, actually.

[ofrhz]

well hey now that's personal attack

[Sunshine13]

Well, sometimes I like to push peope’s buttons, see how they react.

Total scumslip, btw.

[the worst]

That is a great avi choice. <3

[Mathdino]

@Math, actually why are you scumreading me again? PoE?

-> @math, 527 - assuming the premise of scum in the ducks, why'd you vote ofrhz there, and not, say, tw or ud?

i will admit i think i have too many townreads right now
goes something like

ruru
Sunshine
pintu
Scioness
Oxy
AP/Mohab

leaving {Draynth, ofrhz, skitter, TW, UglyDuck}

pretty sure one scum slipped by me so i'll recalibrate when we get a scumflip but unless the team is literally Draynth/skitter, there MUST be scum in the ducks

anyway skitter is useful i guess if she stops tunneling me, draynth i could lynch but that feels like the lazy way to send off D1, same with uglyduck (also scum seems to be voting/scumreading uglyduck so i'm cautious there), and TW is pro-town/readable enough as scum and i can probably get him to bus down the line if it comes to that

i voted ofrhz because there's an actual case on him as detailed by sunshine

and because multiple people have noted that he's different from 1859

i stand by this vote as something i'm... probably 45% confident in

lynch ofrhz let's go

[Mathdino]

i forgot you guys were the hyper cautious newbies

let's not run this to deadline guys

setting up vote counter in a second

[ofrhz]

That is a great avi choice. <3

thanks bb <3

[ruru]

-> If ruru is town, AP is very, very, very likely town as well. Or, more accurately, I don't think scum!AP posts 594 knowing that town!ruru flips green.

What do you think about the rest of his posts?

[ruru]

and because multiple people have noted that he's different from 1859

Can you summarize the differences because of everyone from 1859 he kinda feels most similar to me

[Mathdino]

thinking i agree with skitter on AP actually

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Edit: no i can't, i'm sheeping oxy/scioness
i literally did not read ofrhz's ISO (or most of his posts) that game
i'm not the best person to be making the meta-case, my knowledge will be effectively equivalent to had i not played the game at all

I took the code that's here and pasted it in Post 0, by the way. I can remember that number more easily.

[Mathdino]

Votecount 1.LYNCH THE DUCKS

UglyDuck(3)

~ pinturicchio(31), ofrhz(69), the worst(141)

ofrhz(2)

~ UglyDuck(12), Mathdino(103)

the worst(1)

~ Draynth(5)

ruru(1)

~ AP(56)

Oxy(1)

~ Scioness Sajj(33)

Mohab500(1)

~ Oxy(66)

AP(1)

~ ruru(55)


Not Voting (3): Sunshine13(27), Mohab500(44), skitter30(36)

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2018-04-30 16:45:00)

what a pretty votecount

all our ducks are in a row

[the worst]

Why is AP town to you Math

[Mathdino]

AP, we're never lynching ruru today
your reads are decent but not on ruru

scioness, we're not lynching oxy today
i know you're probably annoyed at him after last game and shit but he IS a useful player to have around and imo he IS easy to read if you know how

oxy, mohab can just get vigshot
in fact
HURT: Mohab
please feel free to vote on vigging mohab

ruru, AP is a bad lynch and you're not gonna get the traction. he's likely just wrong town

sunshine/mohab/skitter why tf are you not voting anyone
i'm sheeping you sunshine get on ofrhz

[Oxy]

In post 489, Draynth wrote:
It's nice and early and I wanted to move my vote off RVS, why not?
It's also an attempt to find out if it's purely a playstyle thing and try interact with TW.


OK, that's fair.

what?